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Anyone happy with Jolla here?

asked 2015-09-01 10:40:18 +0300

zackbuffo gravatar image

updated 2015-09-01 10:51:57 +0300

Sorry, for not posting a question or idea, but I think some things have to be straightened out.

To make one thing clear at start, I understand and agree that there are points to criticise regarding the new Jolla version and of course bugs are bugs. But taking a look at the recent posts here, I think there is a completely wrong perception. By the time of writing, out of the first ten entries at together.jolla.com, six (!!!) are Android related...!? WTF?

I know, Jolla has "promised" Andorid compatibility, but wake up, this is a phone running Sailfish OS and not Android. Really, if anyone wants to use the phone like Andorid gear, buy an Android phone.

Second, keep in mind we are running an OS in version 1.1.7. - I remember a blog post about Jolla a few months ago (unfortunately I can't remember were I read it), which perfectly classified the current state of Sailfish OS:

"Apple's iOS was on version 3.2. (don't pin me on the exact version, I'm qouting freely), when it started supporting MMS."

Anyone still complaining about an OS at that early stage in development like Sailfish OS, supporting a different operating system right now and out of the box, but not running prefectly accurate?

That's it all about, Jolla is pretty fine for such an early version with so little manpower for development, compared to Android, iOS, etc.

I definitely do agree, Jolla has very much headroom to improve - the OS itself, the apps and the processes -, but give these guys a little air to breathe.

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That is one very confusing post. Why is the number of android related posts on the landing page important? 15 minutes later that number has changed. Those are just the posts that have been edited most recently. Are people not supposed to report issues with the Android runtime? What is your point? You seem to be coming down on the side of Jolla, but at the same time criticise people who file bug reports about Android compatibility?

One thing I personally very much like is that I can run Android applications without Google Play Services on my phone, that's a huge plus.

2Ti ( 2015-09-01 10:52:28 +0300 )edit
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"One thing I personally very much like is that I can run Android applications without Google Play Services on my phone, that's a huge plus."

I wish I could give a hundred upvotes just for this one sentence. :)

ossi1967 ( 2015-09-01 10:54:33 +0300 )edit
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As I stated, bugs must be filed, and the point you made using Andorid apps without Google was for me a unique selling point of Jolla, too.

But reading through all these posts - at least to me personally - it often sounded rather like a rant "why is xy not perfect" than a decent bug report. At that point my main intention was to put some things into (a partly personal) perspective.

zackbuffo ( 2015-09-01 11:03:33 +0300 )edit

I'm quite happy with my Jolla. My post was related to android runtime but If I put phone silence I assume that every sound in phone would be silent. Whatsapp is only android software that I'm using daily (Yes there is native software, but android version works better).

New hardware would be nice because with my usage phone gets a little damage (it sometimes drops). Or possibility to buy first Jolla with cheap prize (249 is too much).

MJolla ( 2015-09-01 11:18:06 +0300 )edit
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"Apple's iOS was on version 3.2. (don't pin me on the exact version, I'm qouting freely), when it started supporting MMS."

It is a poor example. MMS really wasn't all that popular in the US in 2007, as evidenced by the fact that Apple's exclusive service provider partner at that time, AT&T, didn't actually have an MMS service - so why would iOS itself need MMS, until it could actually make any use of it? (AT&T didn't introduce an MMS service until September 2009, just after - surprise, surprise - iOS introduced MMS support)

We can go further, iPhone OS 1.0 (as it was) actually had fairly limited functionality - but the iPhone succeeded because, to quote The Verge "Apple focused on getting the core experience right. It focused on speed, consistency between apps, and a making a few features radically better than anything else that was available [at that time]"

Sadly, much as I love some of it, I don't think the core experience of Sailfish is right yet, nor radically better than anything else, almost 20 months after launch.

strongm ( 2015-09-01 12:09:26 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-11-06 01:03:58 +0300

JarskiN gravatar image

I like my Jolla. It's about two years old now and works better than ever. I like new 2.0 Sailfish very much. I use it for emails, reading news, surfing and phone of course. Very nice to use. But a few app there is what I want to use and can't get them to Jolla. So after two years I looking something new. I want to continue with Jolla, but maybe Puzzlephone is my next device. I like Sailfis OS, but Sailfish-apps are not so great.

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Looks interesting that phone. I wonder why they choose Android as OS and not sailfish. They are also from finland the licensing costs could be cheaper. Allthough I don't like the size. It's too big. Anyway, maybe there will be a sailfish image for it. Let's hope so, the concept of the phone is nice.

naytsyrhc ( 2015-11-06 10:42:30 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-11-05 14:37:26 +0300

Pikku-Y gravatar image

Poor little device that still has no spare batteries for sale. -not good.

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answered 2015-10-06 00:04:05 +0300

inte gravatar image

I was happy until release 1.7. The new release sucks since most of the gestures were removed.

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This. The UI went to hell in 2.0.

alamaki ( 2015-11-05 22:59:54 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-09-08 22:14:38 +0300

Mr.Pancake gravatar image

I was pretty satisfied with my Jolla as an N9 user, but I'm writing this because as of now I'm extremely happy with how things look and work after upgrading to 1.1.9.28 a few days ago. I'm not moving to another ecosystem while my Jolla is healthy and running.

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answered 2015-09-08 16:24:49 +0300

blacksailer gravatar image

I'm happy with phone, but some features annoyed me.

While reading a book notifications covers first two lines. Thats really annoying, especially in subway. Also i'm from Russia. I broke my screen in top corner and can not change it.

But i really like UI/UX of the OS. And really hate developers, who in pulley menu have more than 4 positions.

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answered 2015-09-08 10:34:00 +0300

malk4ever gravatar image

I would be happy if I could buy one :( Beeing a fan of jolla for... since it exists. My Phone (Android) still works, so I wasn't in need to get a new one. But definitively my new one shall be a Jolla Phone... I hope they are coming back... otherwise... an OS without Hardware wont work :(

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Amazon.co.uk seem to still have some Jolla phones for sale.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HJA7A3Y?ie=UTF8&tag=pric097-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=1634&creativeASIN=B00HJA7A3Y

eson ( 2015-09-08 13:42:47 +0300 )edit
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Jolla shop seems to have both Stella and Plain available right now.

cy8aer ( 2015-09-08 15:18:54 +0300 )edit

wooohooo, thanks for the info.

malk4ever ( 2015-09-08 15:20:41 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-09-06 21:11:45 +0300

yes, i am happy with Jolla. it is not an Android phone and if someoneis looking for that, he should buy one and not Jolla.

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answered 2015-09-06 10:52:22 +0300

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Frankly, I'm about to abondon the whole thing. It comes with a cost to be an ideologist obviously. Jolla came with a lot of gimmicks, other half, ambiance, gesture based. But at the end of the day the device falls short when it comes to actual features and functionality. Not to mention all the usability issues that comes along with the young and unsettled OS. The gestures are even more irritating most of the time, rather than serving as a practical help.

Tired of all the things I can't do with the Jolla. The Alien Dalvik lacks a lot of hardware support for instance. Don't say "well go buy an android then". It's more about what I expect from a smartphone today. The browser is a neverending problem child and its just too many pages and content types that simply doesn't work. I can go on, but the problems simply overshadows the uniqueness and spirit of the device. Browser is one thing, but there are a lot of irritating bugs that never seem to get fixed, like the "freezing" of the mail on the first page. The mess with the contact linking. The phone thinking its in a call when its not. It simply never ends, simply usability things.

Had the software houses invested a little in the device on the app side things might have looked different. But jolla seems to stay alone with its faithful community, struggling to catch up with decent app support for hardware and the ecosystem in general. I've had faith in it for quite a while now, but simply just fed up. Now probably looking at a oneplus 2.

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Too bad you feel that way.

You obviously have some problems that affect your workflow. I cannot help thinking the problems might be connected to the alien dalvik use since I have had none of your problems.

juiceme ( 2015-09-07 01:09:48 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-09-05 08:08:57 +0300

shining gravatar image

tohkbd attached, pressing f2 and I can't get the smile out of my face. One happy gizmo here!

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answered 2015-09-04 02:58:13 +0300

Jolla-be really different gravatar image

Very happy. As my Avatar suggests, I believe that Jolla must be different, i.e. not to follow and clone other OS, but permitting a different experience. As underlined in my question I live in a pure Sailfish ecosystem. Buying a Jolla you can decide what you will have as apps, without being forced to be in the (undesirable) cloud.

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