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Eineheminlampi "Silent" ambience should actually be silent

asked 2015-09-15 22:21:59 +0300

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updated 2015-09-16 00:13:38 +0300

This ambience embarrassed me in class today by allowing an alarm to make noise. I foolishly assumed that the "Silent" ambience would actually be silent, but I guess it only kills the ringtone? The global app volume setting also appears to not be controllable by the ambience, and, indeed, not to be easily controllable except by pressing the volume button from inside an app. I would really like a single overall setting that I can use to make sure that my phone will not make any noises at all except for over the headset/bluetooth and within the confines of an actual phone call. Am I missing something?

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good to know. This really needs to be fixed asap. Hopefully there will be a silence shortcut too in the future, I dont want to change my ambience for that

michel ( 2015-09-15 22:43:18 +0300 )edit
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IMHO Silence shouldn't silence alarms. How would you get up in the morning if you silence your phone then?

Tanghus ( 2015-09-15 23:11:51 +0300 )edit

Silencing the ringtone is easy to do as a single action, if that's all you want to have happen while you sleep. It seems like kind of a trivial thing to warrant a whole a separate ambience. On the other hand, silencing the entire phone (including calendar alarms, clock alarms, app noises, and other such things which one also might want to have silenced in a wide variety of contexts) is basically impossible to do as a single action, and could definitely benefit from an ambience.

I can understand people might have different needs from a "Silent" ambience, and, sure, I was able to reconfigure the ambience myself to set all the notification tones to "no sound", which got me most of what I wanted (except the app silencing). But it would be helpful if there was at least some kind of description field for the ambience that made it a little clearer that silencing the communication notifications is the only thing it does. Sound control on these phones is extremely confusing, and it's frustrating (not to mention error-inducing) how many different things I have to fiddle with just to make sure that the phone won't embarrass me in places where I'm supposed to be quiet.

thebat137 ( 2015-09-16 00:12:53 +0300 )edit
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Well, it works exactly as the "Silence phone" menu entry in the pulley menu on the home screen on SFOS1: No ringtone or sounds from notifications, but alarm does sound, so it's pretty consistent in my eyes.

Tanghus ( 2015-09-16 00:33:16 +0300 )edit

hm, I have the same setup like in SFOS1 now: one ambience (with the right contrast) and silence via volume buttons. For me this is better now than with SFOS1 because with the volume buttons you can control the volume of ringtone and sounds global. The ambience may be a fast starter. But all other control via volume buttons.

cy8aer ( 2015-09-16 09:07:12 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-09-16 00:52:58 +0300

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updated 2015-09-16 00:52:58 +0300

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Indeed, the Silent ambience only affects the ringtone, as can be easily checked by opening it in Settings -> System -> Ambiences. Other sounds remain at their default settings. You can add settings to the profile by tapping the plus icon next to Add actions. Why is it called actions is a mystery. When I first saw it, I expected to be able to define real actions, such as go offline at certain times of day etc, but all it does is setting sounds. You can set Clock and Calendar sounds to none to shut up alarms.

One thing I would like to see is an option to duplicate an ambience, to have two or more with only small differences.

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Cold be that the "action" framework is place, but the only thing using it at the moment is changing of sound levels ?

MartinK ( 2015-09-16 01:16:59 +0300 )edit

I hope so, Martin, I sure do.

pichlo ( 2015-09-16 02:05:44 +0300 )edit

This isn't true... I reconfigured the ambience so that it silences everything except the alarm, but applications like MeeRun aren't silent. So there's something else here...

gabriel ( 2015-09-25 13:36:46 +0300 )edit

How does that contradict what I said?

Other sounds remain at their default settings.

There is no setting in the ambience for MeeRun so it remains at the default.

This is not an easy nut to crack. I personally would not want a setting for each individual app in the ambience. Perhaps one way out could be having groups like "Media", "Games", "General" etc. Then each app capable of making noise would have to register with the OS and tell it which group it belongs to, or create its own group should it really want to.

pichlo ( 2015-09-25 13:53:05 +0300 )edit

pichlo: I guess I didn't read your post carefully enough, sorry. The "only affects ringtone" put me off track a little bit to be honest, as that's not accurate.

gabriel ( 2015-09-25 14:04:06 +0300 )edit
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