[ Poll ] Fairphone 2 - are you going to invest ?

asked 2015-10-23 12:34:31 +0300

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Will the latest move by jolla, "Sailfishing" the Fairphone offer enough reasons / sense for you to invest ?

► Official poll by Fairphone : "Which [OS] will make you get a #Fairphone2?"

https://t.co/pWKWFRcPCU

Maybe consider leaving a vote there, while active ....

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Converted your answers to Wiki's as it's not a good manner to create a poll and gather karma points from the voted options. :)

raketti ( 2015-10-23 13:21:34 +0300 )edit

https://together.jolla.com/question/16697/together-howto-polling-in-together/?answer=16716#post-id-16716

Sthocs ( 2015-10-23 13:23:59 +0300 )edit

And also what @Sthocs said. :)

raketti ( 2015-10-23 13:29:04 +0300 )edit

Thanks ! I'm contributing under tight time constraints - so I'm learning by doing ;) ... thanks for your help indeed :) ! Maybe it's good to merge 2 of the replies given by @nick75 and @till as comments to Option [D] .... would I be allowed doing this ?

launchpad ( 2015-10-23 13:38:20 +0300 )edit

@launchpad, i don't think merging the three is good, they cover differnet aspects. [D] is still HW related. My suggestion, is more of the OS itself and the native apps running in Sailfish - regardless which phone you actually. Btw, I have converted my answer to wiki. Regarding answer by @till it is more closer to your [D], but I leave to @till decide.

nick75 ( 2015-10-23 13:54:20 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-10-23 12:35:36 +0300

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updated 2016-02-26 11:58:04 +0300

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Yes, definitely yes ! A dream combination. I could live without jolla-concepts such as TOH.

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Acutally, the Fairphone seems to have an accessory port, similar to the IC2 port that enables TOH on Jolla...

bilgy_no1 ( 2015-10-23 14:11:16 +0300 )edit

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@bilgy_no1 - I demand sauce! :D Where did you see/read this?

raketti ( 2015-10-23 14:25:04 +0300 )edit

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/fairphone-2-hands-on-modular-phones-are-finally-here/2/

See somewhere down the page.

bilgy_no1 ( 2015-10-23 18:30:27 +0300 )edit

see there : http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2015/10/fairphone-30-980x652.jpg

launchpad ( 2015-10-24 16:50:29 +0300 )edit

The guy that did the keyboard cover for Jolla also makes covers for Fairphone so I can imagine him making a Fairphone 2 version of that.

cgfrost ( 2016-02-26 13:42:39 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-10-23 12:36:42 +0300

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Yes ! Until an update of the current jolla phone will arrive - the best way to update my hardware ...

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answered 2015-10-23 12:39:35 +0300

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Yes, I don't expect any Jolla Phone 2 to come ...

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answered 2015-10-23 12:40:48 +0300

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Maybe. Depending on further communications by jolla explaining more specifically future support & development for the Fairphone and 3rd party devices ...

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I will wait how the porting is going to progress. The Fairphone 2 brings good hardware, but coming at 530€ it is also not a cheap gadget I get just to play around with. If SailfishOS runs fine on the phone, I will most probably get one.

hwesselmann ( 2015-10-23 12:46:22 +0300 )edit

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Big question is : Will it have a licenced alien dalvik ? ie : Will we be able to run android software ?

lainwir3d ( 2015-10-23 13:21:33 +0300 )edit

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@hwesselmann, same here, if/when it comes officially supported and a full OS experience, then I will seriously consider if no other option is available thus far.

raketti ( 2015-10-23 13:22:40 +0300 )edit

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If it is really full supported I get one. But I learned from past "cooperations" that they often end in nothing.

Sailor ( 2015-10-23 13:48:12 +0300 )edit

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Maybe I will order one simply out of curiosity ... let's see how long it'll stay in my desk's drawer until I can Sailfish it :| ... due to jolla's limited resources and no information about any timeline. I'm also worried about if features such as dual SIM support will be integrated seemlessly into the UI. They should, but I can't "force" them ;) ....

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answered 2015-10-23 12:41:13 +0300

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No, it cannot convince me.

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answered 2015-10-23 12:48:32 +0300

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I will wait and see how the Sailfish OS itself and its ecosystem will progress.

Currently, I am way closer jumping ship and switch to another ecosystem, than staying with any device running Sailfish.

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This. Before I can consider buying another Sailfish phone, I'd first have to see at least some strong signals that Sailfish 2 is eventually going to become a good phone OS again.

Kevin ( 2015-10-23 14:41:42 +0300 )edit

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What ecosystem are you thinking about moving too?

etsoy ( 2015-10-25 01:24:38 +0300 )edit

@etsoy, it is a generic voting option for people who is thinking of moving on to any other OS than staying with Sailfish.

nick75 ( 2015-10-27 08:55:08 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-10-23 12:50:19 +0300

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If a Fairphone 2 Edition with Sailfish OS instead of Android would be sold officially (including warranty and android app support) I would go for it

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If I understood correctly, they are working on getting the port to a level where they can officially support it, so yes, your (and mine as well, since I too want this) hopes are (semi-)high. :)

raketti ( 2015-10-23 13:30:09 +0300 )edit

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I am looking for a replacement for my Jolla (been living with a scratched camera too much), and this could be the product I am looking for. I would be paing for its full price, even two months ahead, but only with a working SailfishOS port.

magullo ( 2015-10-23 13:41:50 +0300 )edit

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I will go a step forward. I bought one and i will support the community by installing and testing the community version (when i get the phone). I hope, later it will works got enought to get an official support from Jolla.

gabs5807 ( 2015-10-25 20:43:11 +0300 )edit

I have bought a PuzzlePhone during their campaign in good faith that there will be a community SFOS at least for that devices as I am convinced that the two companies and the device itself are a perfect match. Now that I have bought that phone, my budget is exhausted for a year or two, but otherwise I would go for the fairphone2 for sure, without hesitation. I think it is pretty much an equally good match to the Jolla community.

DieUnwucht ( 2016-02-25 22:05:10 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-10-23 13:12:25 +0300

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No. Before Sailfish OS will be running & accessing Fairphone HW sufficiently well ( e.g. dual SIM or camera support ), the Fairphone will be long outdated again ...

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This option is contrary to the philosophy of the Fairphone!

The idea behind the Fairphone is that you can use it for 5 years, which drastically reduces the eco-footprint of the device compared to phones that you use for only 1-2 years. One of the ways to achieve longevity is to be open to many OS options.

E.g. you run Sailfish early 2016. If Sailfish for whatever reason is no longer available/updated in 2019, you can easily revert to Fairphone OS (almost AOSP Android), or perhaps Ubuntu Touch if it has been made to work by then.

The other ways to achieve longevity are to provide user replaceable spare parts. Perhaps a camera module or motherboard could not only be repaired in 4 years, but they could even provide upgrades at that time.

bilgy_no1 ( 2015-10-23 14:19:44 +0300 )edit

I totally disagree. Unfortunately evolution in the phone industry is quite fast. Who does know what will be included in a smart phone in 5 years? Who can garantee it will be possible to find spare components to repair? Who is ready to pay today to stock spare parts? This is a lost battle. It is like inventing today the tower PC in a world where consommers are replacing PC with tablets or notebooks.

ron282 ( 2015-11-06 00:41:06 +0300 )edit

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In the other hand they can also announce updates to the FP2. Because it is modular a new better camera module, motherboard(processor) and other parts can be made. With this kind of process a longer lifetime is possible to achieve. FP is also about fairness and sustainability, nobody buys it at the moment if one just wants to have the fastest phone on market.

anza ( 2016-02-25 17:59:11 +0300 )edit

I wanted to but FP and Jolla are taking so much time in deciding that in the meantime I have bought a JollaC and no longer needs a newer phone.

Sorry Fairphone, I like your ideals but also need to think about my own :)

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answered 2015-10-23 13:59:00 +0300

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No. Simply to big for my hands

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answered 2015-10-23 14:09:05 +0300

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http://evotronix.eu/

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Yes. Fairphone+Jolla looks like a Fair combination.

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