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Jolla does NOT need a new phone [opinion]

asked 2015-12-17 02:43:30 +0300

Shmet gravatar image

updated 2015-12-17 02:49:58 +0300

Every time I'm doing research on Jolla, I see someone, somewhere, demanding a new phone from Jolla. My first question then is: Why? The main issue seems to be the hardware. It's outdated. And in terms of our current market system, that is true. But IS it really true?

I believe that the current market is going way too fast. Every half year there is a new processor which is 10% faster. I mean who cares? When I compare my jolla phone to my friends nexus 5X, the nexus has better hardware specs, but is it really better? The screen drains more battery because of all the pixels that need to be rendered and the processor is only partly used because it's completely overkill for what is necessary in a mobile phone.

I love what Jolla has done with SFOS 2.0, my battery life increased (now 4 days on light usage), the browser got faster, and I like the notification screen. But most of all, the phone feels smooth. It's a pleasure to work with. Ok it lags sometimes, but so does the nexus!

So we don't need better hardware, we need software that makes better use of the hardware there is! And that's what Jolla is giving us: monthly updates and pretty good software. Everyone can feel the massive improvements over the last 2 years.

A bigger screen with more pixels? It would drain more battery.

A faster processor? Would be nice, but I'm not photoshopping on my phone.

What do we really need?

  • 4G for futureproofness (<- is that a word?)? check
  • wifi AC? sadly, no. But not really necessary either.
  • Bluetooth 4.0? check
  • Micro SD? check
  • GPS? check (though I admit, I truly miss google maps navigation)

Its truly only the connectivity we need, right? It would be nice to have a better screen-to-body-ratio, a better camera,... But do we NEED it?

PS: I believe they should be more creative with the TOH and sell things that we can add to our phone instead of a completely new one. I wish i could find a TOHKBD - battery combination. So I can get a week battery life and a nice keyboard for work in the terminal. (If anyone can tell me where to find a TOHKBD pls do tell me)

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Depends, it's not 3D-rendering here. There are better options than just adding more RAM, like better swap-handling or something.

Shmet ( 2015-12-17 02:59:55 +0300 )edit
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Yes, it does...

Otherwise it will be really difficult to get new customers in volume. Regular customers will not buy a new phone with years old hardware - regardless how good or bad its performance is. Except some die-hard supporters. :)

Not to mention they have no idea/information what performance of current device has...

Believe me, not even Apple - with its second-to-none marketing machinery - would make it...

zlutor ( 2015-12-17 10:06:43 +0300 )edit

Some people have also other needs such as good quality camera (I realize that it is important to me, coming from the N9) or a good screen.

Vivien ( 2015-12-17 17:14:47 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-12-17 09:50:09 +0300

tortoisedoc gravatar image

Think what you want, but i'd be curious to see how SFOS can sail on a quadcore ;)

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It does pretty well, just check SFOS on Nexus 5. :)

juiceme ( 2015-12-17 09:57:55 +0300 )edit
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/me does not want to give money to Google (or use Google devices for that matter)

tortoisedoc ( 2015-12-17 10:36:02 +0300 )edit

@tortoisedoc, get an used one, avoid paying google :)

Besides, I doubt you can even get Nexus5 (hammerhead device) as new any longer from stores, the new models Nexus6 and Nexus5x have replaced it...

juiceme ( 2015-12-17 10:54:13 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-12-17 11:11:18 +0300

stephan gravatar image

An incremental improvement of the existing hardware would be a hit. And the possibility to run SFOS on a bunch of other phones ...

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answered 2015-12-17 11:14:02 +0300

Giacomo Di Giacomo gravatar image

The damn thing starts swapping every time I touch anything, including the UI. I don't know about you but I need 3 GB as a bare minimum for a pleasant experience. About processing power, we can get CPUs that are 5 times as powerful as the current one for the same price, so why waste money to get less? About the screen, apart from the fact that an OLED unit would be more than welcome, while screen density is enough for me, I sorely need more real estate for almost all tasks, including not hitting the wrong key on the keyboard half of the time.

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answered 2015-12-17 23:15:25 +0300

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updated 2015-12-17 23:16:50 +0300

IMHO the bare minimum an up'n'comin' mobile OS these days needs is the following 4 devices:

  • a mid-range phone with up to 5 inch screen (check)
  • a high-end phone with a large screen, a.k.a. a powerful phablet
  • a smaller tablet with up to 8 inch screen (check... well......... :)
  • a bigger tablet with a 10-11 inch screen

Without such a selection of devices, developers may come up with apps, but would be tough to prepare them for various form factors and device types. The Jolla tablet is a huge help, but things should keep moving forward quicker than the current pace.

But considering the limited resources of Jolla, IMHO the order of upcoming moves by them should be:

1) Ship all the tablets. If necessary, get more funds via a new campaign. I'd definitely join since I missed the first campaign.

2) Develop the high-end phone/phablet. For nothing else, it would be a better device to show off the beauty of SFOS if the device had an up-to-date screen.

3) Develop the bigger tablet.

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I wish there were still a Nokia N9 or Lumia 720 form factor. For me this would be the reduced to the max highest level :-)

chappi ( 2015-12-18 15:22:25 +0300 )edit
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