[HowTo for dummies] Moving files between Jolla and Linux/Mac using SFTP via GUI [not a question]

While this is a nice -and welcome- how to If you have to activate dev mode and use sftp it is not considered for dummies.

:/ still a proper solution to this huge problem is missing. Some tried noone delivered a polished product.

@ApB Well, this is the easiest non-MTP file transferring solution for Linux/Mac I've found so far. I'd say anything can be considered as "for dummies" as long as the guide is clear enough (someone using Mac, please add some screenshots :) ) and you don't need to install/configure additional software.

Maybe i should have written for the average joe. Anyway i believe you get my point. :)

@ApB: there are no "average Joes" among the Jolla users, and I'm pretty sure there will never be

Good works!

@SchröpfeMich

That's totally what i don't want to happen. No point in designing/targeting a product for a minority.

hi, I don't know, how in Ubuntu, but I was able to pretty simply install mtp protocol to my OpenSUSE, this seems to be more complicated.. I am not sure, how in Mac, but I assume it might work the same way (first few google results), but it is always good to know the possibilities :)

Similar post on TMO that I wrote in 2014 ;)
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93109

@Bobsikus I am able to use MTP out of the box, but this isn't the case for everyone. Also, this way you have access to the whole system which is a big plus.

@schturman No, your guide is about SSHFS, that's very different. In this guide we use SFTP which doesn't need command line or manual mounting. And, if you don't do SFTP as root you can't mess system files. Less risk!

Thank you!

This works as well with WLAN while developer mode activated and remote connection enabled. Very nice.

You may use the "Connect to Server"-Option in the lower left instead. Type there your "sftp://192.168.XXX.XXX". The last entries will be saved, so you need just 2 clicks in the future.

@Jolla095 Yeah, I just went for the easiest way since this how-to is for beginners.

@Robomike Yeah, I found that while writing the instructions. I had to finish this in a rush so I left that out. Well, it's a wiki so feel free to improve it :) I'll add it once I fix my laptop: My grub broke and isn't showing all my installed OSes so I can't access my Ubuntu.

learning, but ... anybody tried this with OSX? Cyberduck, when I try, messages 'operation timed out' after minutes. Also informs of using port 22. Apple Finder's command 'connect to server' works neither.

Strange, I'll ask my MacBook using friend to come over and test this.

Hi, what can I do to force this prompt (step 6)? I'm never prompted, just timed out. Sftp connection does not seem to work for me. I followed the instructions above (enabled developper mode and allowed remote connection via SSH), and then: nothing. No connection under sftp://192.168.X.XX Ping: 0% received, 100% packet loss.

Strangely this problem started after a factory reset of my Jolla (updated to 2.0.0.10 Saimaa). It worked before the reset, also with 2.0.0.10 Saimaa. My computer(s): Linux Mint 17.3 64bit and 32bit, as well as Ubuntu 15.10 64bit. Also checked with Fedora 23.

Connection via the ordinary PC USB mode in Jolla does work, but with certain limitations (file handling on the phone SD card and phone memory not possible using MTP protocol, this is why I was looking into the SSH file transfer, using the developper mode). Any idea? Thanks Georg

just checked with system log: upon connecting the Jolla to my PC (I mean, unsuccessfully connecting, trying with SFTP in developper mode) the PC's syslog is filled with messages (approx. 170 lines), some of them saying DHCPv4 request timed out, others like ip-config-unavailable What is going wrong here? What can I do to solve the issue? any hints appreciated

I think @Georg's and @danfin's problems have the same reason: Jolla's ip is not configured. You need to type ifconfig usb0 inet 192.168.2.14 into the terminal of your computer as root. Works across all UNIX machines (Mac, Linux, BSD). usb0might be something different, though. I'll add this to the main post when I get on a computer.

why .14 ?? The developper mode of my Jolla is preconfigured to USB-IP 192.168.2.15, as also shown in the screenshot at the top of the page. Or do you mean to deliberately try a different address? Please elaborate on these points, and how I could proceed. Any hints appreciated. btw.: usb0 is correct

Yes, 14 is on purpose. You configure it with 14 and connect with 15. Because reasons. Other way around it doesn't work.
So: usb0 was correct on your machine. Did you try sftp after doing ifconfig as root? Does it work?

nope I typed sudo ifconfig usb0 inet 192.168.2.14 and then I tried to SFTP to 192.168.2.15, but no connection possible. again, I received loads of messages in syslog, e.g. related to some connection timeouts, and the network adapter desperately trying something... DHCPDISCOVER on usb0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 (xid=0xb70fb422) (usb0): device state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]

but thanks a lot for your suggestions cheers Georg

btw.: when I do ifconfig without any arguments (just checking), it seems like there is no inet address assigned, just an inet6 address (IPv6), only after doing the ifconfig I get the inet address 192.168.2.14

Yes, ifconfig adds the missing address. Something is clearly wrong, since DHCPDISCOVER has the wrong address and port for usb0. You can try running ifconfig as root and not just su (I don't think is makes a difference, but try anyway, you never know).

sorry, this does not work with my Jolla. sftp is still impossible, even after following your suggestions. What else could I try? Redo the factory reset? Will it change anything? But what is it which keeps my Jolla from behaving as expected? What can I do to make DHCPDISCOVER work with my phone? thx Georg

I doubt the problem is in your Jolla, but if the instructions don't work with Ubuntu, I have no idea what's the problem.
You could try SSHFS instead of SFTP, there is a link to instructions a few comments up from here.

@Georg I think I found the problem: for some reason it's not always usb0. Today I found out mine was en************* (* means any char). Do ifconfig and then find one which has inet addr 192.168.2.**. Then copy the name and do ifconfig [the name goes here, for example enkjr9858dgd] inet 192.168.2.14. After that SFTP, SSH and all the stuff works.

still no chance, unfortunately

what I did in the meantime: 1. reset device one more time 2. changed from German to English (UK) localization 3. my Jolla still is shown as usb0 with ifconfig 3a. the difference to before: now it is shown as inet address 192.168.2.5 (before, the inet address would not be assigned before typing ifconfig usb0 inet 192.168.2.14) yes, it is ...2.5, not ...2.15 of course, after typing the ifconfig command, the inet address is assiged to 192.168.2.14, but still it turns out to be impossible to connect, neither SFTP nor SSH. Just the ordinary PC connection mode is OK. One more comment: pinging is possible now (this started working with your hint of the 192.168.2.14 address, not only now), i.e. the network adapters of my computer and my Jolla seem to communicate, somewhow).

That's too bad :(
Yes, Jolla is shown with address like ...2.5 which is why you need to configure it to ...2.14. Btw, have you tried connecting over WLAN?

oh, yes, this works, finally! Connecting via the WLAN IP address 192.168.0.3 solved the issue, SFTP is up and running. Maybe it was just an issue with the USB MTP mode. Thanks a lot! cheers Georg