TOH meets JAQ, for makers and strategists, for fun and profit? [fuel cell power supply TOH]

asked 2016-01-09 10:53:22 +0300

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updated 2016-01-09 12:11:28 +0300

Hi sailors,

this fuel cell puppy seems to take off :-) Their "PowerCards", the actual fuel cell, could be available at filling stations etc soon. For most of us, this is a nice emergency power source, but I can imagine, that there are regions, where it's more likely a permanent/additional power source. At such places, a JAQOtherHalf (TOHJAQ) was nice to have. The PowerCards are very slim and the size seems to fit.

For anybody with mechanical/engineering skills (Dirk!?)? Or even for Jolla to gain new/potential customer groups? There are "survival stuff" retailers waiting ;-)

-Mano

P.S.: If it's heat dissipating (haven't read carfully, so just a guess), it could also be beneficial for those suffering from Can I use my Jolla in a very cold weather (-25C)?, and would also render the Silly idea: battery warming TOH beeing less silly ;-)

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Hi Mano, where do you see the additional benefit in having a special TOH, which would make the phone really bulky? Would not just connecting the JAQ to the Jolla recharge the phone and serve the intended purpose?

Joerg ( 2016-01-11 03:45:36 +0300 )edit

Hi Joerg, for urban users, the JAQ is best to be used as it is – hope you have it arround if your'e short on energy ;-) But for (longer) journeys or longer visits to locations where solar-chargers and non-rechargeable batteries are the only power source, a built-in JAQ could safe luggage space and hassle and also reduces the checklist because you just have to check your pocket for credit card sized powerplants ;-) The technology should allow producing quiet slim JAQ-THOs, making the phone not really bulky; probably increase thickness from ~9mm to something about 15mm? But I'm no mechanical engineer nor do I know JAQ's housing components.

I'd just consider a JAQ-TOH as an unique selling advantage – at least Jolla could easily be the first offering such an accessory, because the JP design allows rapid extension development like that :-)

-Mano

Mano ( 2016-01-13 15:59:00 +0300 )edit

Hi Mano, well I'm (an engineer I mean :-) and I'm currently playing around with a few ideas for Jolla TOHs (see http://www.drechsler-it.de).

Designing the mechanical part should not be to difficult. The real challenge will be the electronics. Already NiMH batteries are not as simple as they seem. I'm sure a fuel cell has it's own perks. Without the specs (at least for the cells) that's going to be a tough one.

If there is enough potential for sales, one might be able to convince myFC (the company behind the JAQ) to sign an OEM deal, so you get all the information you need to build a TOH. But myFC is a NASDAQ listed company. So I'm afraid we are talking serious money here, before they are even answering your calls :-)

On the other end: For oneself, one could use a true maker approach. The JAQ is pretty much exactly as long as the Jolla phone, but a little wider. So we could glue a JAQ to a TOH (or use hook and loop fastener). Depending on the esthetic demands we could even hide the cable somewhat. But of course, this would not be a commercial solution.

Joerg ( 2016-01-14 04:00:39 +0300 )edit

Hi Joerg, very nice tinkering site! I got my JP arround the same time, but haven't done much tinkering yet, besides a quiet well working Qi-charging-TOH. I'm still fighting with SIP, X509 and usability in general to get my JP ready to replace my E7. I love this puppy, but it needs polishing at so many (software) edges, that it'll never be consumer compatible (MHO). So the only option to survive is to offer unique features (again, just my opinion). Recently someone posted a link to a blood-pressure TOH (don't remember the medical details, it seemed to claim serious medical usage), which was the best idea I've seen so far. I hope more of these will follow, keeping JP alive :-) And when I read about the JAG, I thought that could be one of the JP supporter; due to lack of own ideas basically ;-) I do have plans/idea to deploy JP as a remote diagnostic support-tool for MFAs (roaming nurses ;-)) utilizing some well-proven OpenSource component's I'm quite familiar with and successfully offering for some years :-) But haven't even started talking about it to the customer.md, who's a happy early-adopter (and CS-master in his life before md) [very tiny scope here, not comparable to medaso, first have to take a look at TM2]. ""

Best,

-Mano

Mano ( 2016-01-14 13:45:32 +0300 )edit

Hi Mano, I have been thinking about integrating Qi charging into my TinkerTOH as the next step, using this http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/P9025AC-R-EVK/800-2977-ND/5409044&WT.z_slp_buy=idt_design-kits. I wonder so, if there is an even smaller solution. What did you use?

Joerg ( 2016-01-15 03:05:14 +0300 )edit