Will the 2.0.1.x update solve battery drain issues ? [answered]
Well, I had enough with the battery drain introduced with Saimaa. My life is limited in between wall power sockets. I can't go anywhere for more than 4 hours, because the phone is shutting it self down. Basically, my Jolla is now a land line phone! The only way to extend the battery life is to turn mobile internet off, which turns Jolla into a overpriced 3310! Where is the next update!?!?!?!?!?!?!
no battery drain here
pawel ( 2016-01-09 21:01:09 +0300 )editSame here, no battery drain - I did have to disable Sync contacts from the Google account, that initially caused a huge drain but after that no probs.
ultraboy ( 2016-01-09 21:24:38 +0300 )editI know that the drain is not plaguing everyone! ;)
Kollin ( 2016-01-09 21:29:35 +0300 )editContrary, battery life got better with Saimaa. At least for me. Maybe you should try a factory reset.
Fellfrosch ( 2016-01-09 21:30:04 +0300 )editwhy do you think 2.1 will drain battery less?
pmelas ( 2016-01-09 21:30:23 +0300 )edit@pmelas Because Saimaa is the worst, so far. :(
Kollin ( 2016-01-09 21:33:05 +0300 )editBut @Kollin, there's clearly some issue on your device causing extreme drain, and that issue won't necessarily be fixed by 2.1.
ssahla ( 2016-01-09 23:10:48 +0300 )editMmh - mine is on the second day without charging (start yesterday morning) - still 20% left - 3G, gps, alien (including what's app), two mail accounts on push and contacts and 4 cals syncing every hour - meecast sync every hour ... Maybe you should replace the battery with a polar cell (did that in December and full power again and no reboots any more ...)
elastic ( 2016-01-09 23:11:06 +0300 )editNo battery drain here. Have 4G, alien, Facebook, regularly internet usage, mail and twitter sync regularly. Battery holds normally 2 days, browser consumes most in my experience
MaxT ( 2016-01-10 00:15:04 +0300 )edit@ssahla As it was introduced with 2.0, i hope it gets fixed with 2.1. ;) And the battery percentage drops are the worst - from 60% to 0% within a minute, with all the bells, whistles and red flags, and after reboot the battery meter shows 50%. :(
Kollin ( 2016-01-10 01:00:25 +0300 )edit@Kollin, could that be a physical problem in the battery connector?
ssahla ( 2016-01-10 01:15:42 +0300 )edit@elastic what polar cell you have(link)?
@ssahla I really doubt that - version 2.0 did not came with broken battery connectors. ;) Thank you for the help guys(all of you), appreciated! ;)
Kollin ( 2016-01-10 01:29:39 +0300 )edit@Kollin the one for the Desire 310 - get it on eBay ... got mine from a seller from Berlin ... you'll figure that out ;-)
elastic ( 2016-01-10 01:36:33 +0300 )editI have no battery drains but i feel identified with this user... i need to open/close messenger apps like whatsapp for receive messages and sometimes is really annoying, but anyone in Jolla read this forum for bug fixes?
PS: Just a question with all respect.
strobovalo ( 2016-01-10 02:24:31 +0300 )editNo battery drain here. I use phone with 3G and wifi permanently on and it last 2 days at least. I have business mail, personal mail and whats-up always running.
tvicol ( 2016-01-10 10:10:30 +0300 )editNo battery drain here. But wasn't 2.1 early access promised to be "very close" well before Christmas? Another empty promise? No sign of life, no communication.
Stefanix ( 2016-01-10 10:26:08 +0300 )editHave you tried cleaning the battery connectors with a rubber? It sure has something to do with non-optimized software, but this solved the problem for me.
Aslanex ( 2016-01-10 11:29:54 +0300 )edit@Aslanex I tried everything! ;)
Kollin ( 2016-01-10 11:52:24 +0300 )editNevertheless, last year, there was one official talking about "we'll have a new release until the end of the week", wasn't he?
Moo-Crumpus ( 2016-01-10 12:10:26 +0300 )edit@Kollin, your symptoms - especially the sudden drop from 60% to 0 - indicate a battery that is close to the end of its life. 2.0 was most likely just a coincidence.
Nearly dead batteries can produce all sorts of odd behaviour. I had a battery once that could keep the phone on standby for 5 days but voice calls were very distorted if the charge was below 90% and if I let it drain below 80%, the phone would reboot the moment it received a call. A new battery solved everything.
pichlo ( 2016-01-10 12:26:41 +0300 )editFinally, this question is not about 2.1 but about a phone's battery - and it has been answered. This one is a good replacement, too: PolarCell Akku HTC Desire 310 D310N B0PA2100 BA-S960
Moo-Crumpus ( 2016-01-10 12:30:11 +0300 )edit@Kollin sudden drops from 60% to dead are either what pichlo said or just a bad learning cycle. Explained in short, the BAT and the controller get mixed up feelings about each other. Solution is to shutdown the phone, remove the battery for 10minutes, insert and charge to full. I had my phone shutdown at around 50% recently, twice. Removing the battery for a while and everything seems back to normal. That issue was present back in the days with N900 already. Battery learning cycles went sideways and you had to reset it forcefully. Here, having the hardware powercut for some minutes solves this issue (at least for me and several others). Another issue might be some weird resistance on the battery connectors -> while the battery is removed, push the rods in and release several times (all rods simultaneously!! use a banking card or something).
chemist ( 2016-01-10 12:43:36 +0300 )editWat apps you haver running?
tortoisedoc ( 2016-01-10 13:57:39 +0300 )edit@chemist I'll try the 'removing the battery for 10 mins' trick.
I'm not confident with bending battery contact pins. They may brake and fall off. :/
Kollin ( 2016-01-10 15:18:57 +0300 )editAlmost surely your battery is dying.
Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2016-01-10 15:57:21 +0300 )editRemoving the battery trick did not work! 20 mins= 11% charge drop!
I'M STRESSING AGAIN THAT THIS OCURES ONLY WHEN MOBILE INTERNET IS ENABLED!!! And it was introduced with Saimaa!
WiFi does not suck battery!
:(
Kollin ( 2016-01-10 16:09:07 +0300 )edit@Kollin not
chemist ( 2016-01-10 19:32:25 +0300 )editbending
contact pins, they are spring mounted pins, pushing them in does not bend anything but their springs. So you charged to full and had a drop by 11% in twenty minutes, and you claim it was introduced with Saimaa, I doubt it. Maybe one of your apps is going nuts when being NAT'ed by mobile carriers. I loose like 42% battery in 10h with 2 accounts IMAP idle, 25min of what I am on mobile data, and 4-6h with weak wlan reception... note, I have about the same battery consumption without using mobile data. Find the app that is going nuts and most important when it starts going nuts <- that is the part where maybe Jolla comes to play if it turns out that loosing connection leaves the device running 'hot'I had earlier big problems with battery not lasting a day. Then I noticed that it happened because my Jolla was sending/receiving a lot of data. I also had a problem that my mail app was reporting sync problems although I received mails correctly. Both of them were fixed when I uninstalled the mail app removed mail account, REBOOTED Jolla and installed the mail app again. There is some problem with Jolla not being able to do clean install to apps if you just uninstall and then install it again. A reboot is needed in between.
raitmmi ( 2016-01-11 08:33:08 +0300 )editAre you sure it is about just about Saimaa? Have you check the load by Lighthouse or System monitor for example? May be the problem is in the battery only. I had a similar problems and removing the battery, cleaning contacts and inserting small paper for pressing the battery to the phone connectors solved this. If not in your case, I suggest the factory reset as @Fellfrosch did.
cocovina ( 2016-01-11 10:48:53 +0300 )editRemember also that lipstick restart (instead of full reboot) increases battery drain dramatically, not only with Saimaa. (see https://together.jolla.com/question/125546/battery-drain-saimaa-20010/)
objectifnul ( 2016-01-11 11:02:28 +0300 )edit@objectifnul spreading fud? Lipstick might hang on a restart, something else might hang on a restart of lipstick, if there is something wrong, a restart of the service might make it worse -> that does not mean restarting lipstick drains your battery more, that means that something is hanging and a restart of lipstick might make it worse, Captain.
chemist ( 2016-01-11 12:19:55 +0300 )edit@jolladiho nothing but the headline is about 2.1 and honestly 2.1 is far away, maybe next year... 2.0.x might be close but as always, it is ready when it is ready, so Soon(TM)! And his problems might have started with Saimaa but I doubt it is a Saimaa specific issue.
chemist ( 2016-01-11 19:59:14 +0300 )editNo battery drain here.Maybe you can reset your phone to factory.
krywing ( 2016-01-12 07:18:37 +0300 )edit2.1 next year? Come on, if that is true then Sailfish is allmost dead. If they not release a 2.0.0.28 or something in a few weeks ... And I still got the idea they have not really learned from the past. At this Point they should communicate every week about Sailfish and Jolla. On this moment it is just like before :-(.
richdb ( 2016-01-12 08:47:39 +0300 )edit@richdb, please read carefully. @chemist is right, historically it was the third digit that was changing every two months or so: 1.0.4, 1.0.5, 1.0.7... We expect the same with the 2 series, so the next expected update would be 2.0.1. In other words, 2.1 is about 10 updates away.
pichlo ( 2016-01-12 12:29:18 +0300 )editI read carefully, if it was (or is) every 2 months then the next update is to late, and the next will be around the end of february? And that is what I try to say with not learned form the past. When wil there be a new release? Communicate about it. Every piece of software that is in development has a timeline, sprints, etc. Where can I find this timeline? Lines like 'it is ready when is ready' is more something for a kind of hobby project. I only like to see that Jolla do more about the communication to the community. I think they still have PR and communication people around, so inform, inform and inform.
richdb ( 2016-01-12 14:08:07 +0300 )edit@richdb this will sound a bit harsh as I am kind of fed by the attitude, just like half of Europe, .fi is 2 days after xmas/new.year-holidays, before that they had for sure other issues than communicating that an upgrade will be late. You all blubber and moan about communication... the way you communicate I do not even want to answer any question. Jolla is communicating a lot more than Nokia for example, and I know what I am talking about as not even back-channeling was much of talking sometimes. This "do more because I get nervous and I demand communications" attitude will lead nowhere... and even from what is communicated you ain't reading shit - releases are within a 4week cycle, sometimes it is better to drop the current branch as most of the RC blockers are already fixed in the next <- this was all communicated in the past btw and I am sure we will hear something in the next 14days and my guesses are A no release before Intex is prep'ed for MWC. B it will be on a Friday and you will hear nothing about it until then. For the timeline, guess the sailor updating the roadmap page was laid off AND maybe there was a "screw it all for now we will have a meeting first week of January to sort it all" which was also communicated (for them the first working week is two days in, you remember?).
chemist ( 2016-01-12 15:20:52 +0300 )editI'm having this kind of behavior: from 95% to 88% on 3G, WhatApp in background.. While reading these comments!!! What do u think? I've never done 1 day complete, except when not using it..
palikao ( 2016-01-14 11:11:59 +0300 )editI am 4 hours in my second day and am at 51%, including but not limited to phonecalls, android-gaming, permanent email updated 24/7 wlan on. Android running with background stuff... I know this behaviour only from stuck things after an upgrade, like tasks being stuck and preventing device from sleeping - without you investigating what is running, no one will ever be able to tell what is happening!
chemist ( 2016-01-14 13:17:12 +0300 )editOh and BTW, the least interference of 3g reception will already give less, a lot less batterylife (seen on all phones I own + some other people's)
chemist ( 2016-01-14 15:10:15 +0300 )edit@palikao, your post is not an answer. Please convert to a comment.
pichlo ( 2016-01-14 18:59:22 +0300 )editVery funny, the question was changed and fits to the comments now. Thats why I deleted my comment from 11th January.
jolladiho ( 2016-01-15 12:22:28 +0300 )editWell the next update must have the UI revamped as the older versions. As the vertical layout. It was unlike of anykind. Even though most people AWE! at thi UI seeing it for the first time. The continuity of this layout is lacking so many aspects. I humbly ask to change for the better, Anyhow its an awesome operating system that only need a few tweaks here and there.
Ghost ( 2016-01-15 12:42:48 +0300 )edit