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Bluetooth file transfer for all file types

asked 2013-12-25 16:24:09 +0200

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updated 2014-01-10 19:01:36 +0200

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Currently it's possible to send images, videos and contacts, but not music files, via bluetooth. More generalized file transfer should be added, atleast to Settings -> System settings -> Bluetooth -> pulley menu -> "Send file", and naturally the file browser.

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This is important. A deal breaker if not fixed, imo

Glenn9K ( 2013-12-25 20:36:56 +0200 )edit
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Yes, definitely this is important!

LaruX ( 2013-12-26 14:53:49 +0200 )edit
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Not high priority at the moment in my opinion. But something I hope to have in the future. Enjoyed it a lot that I could send and receive everything with Nokia N9. Pully menu with "Send file" is a very good idea and would enrich the idea of the Pully menu a lot.

alain ( 2014-01-07 19:31:36 +0200 )edit
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It would be nice to have it in File Browser.

SaimenSays ( 2014-03-01 21:09:02 +0200 )edit
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It should be a have to be in the MediaPlayer analog to Galerie

michaelmischke ( 2014-04-19 00:05:51 +0200 )edit

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answered 2014-10-09 11:58:20 +0200

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updated 2014-10-09 11:59:28 +0200

We developers need an API for that honestly speaking. So that every app has the option to share data. This share option would then open up a share page with all apps and services that allow sharing like bluetooth, dropbox, facebook, flickr and so on. Apps that support sharing should provide an extra .desktop file in a specific directory with the command needed for sharing files with it. Everything else would be a workaround for now.

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I totally agree with this. I was trying to send a .zip file to my girlfriend's Jolla from my own, and thought it would be a trivial task using bluetooth. That feel when I realized, that it just couldn't be done without some retarded "change the file extension and use the gallery to share via bluetooth"-bubblegum-duct tape-MacGyver-workaround. When talking about basic functionality, I'd call data sharing basic. I honestly think that I speak on behalf of the majority of users, when I say that I really don't care if the phone can brew great coffee on the dark side of the moon using only moon dust and subatomic magic particles, when basic functionalities are missing or broken.

Movetron ( 2015-01-03 18:30:22 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-07-11 14:34:07 +0200

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updated 2015-07-11 14:49:10 +0200

Currently the file manager app FileCase from Warehouse can send any single file via bluetooth.

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Good tip, thank you! It's just a bit sad that we have to rely on so many 3rd party apps instead of having them implemented as functionality in Sailfish directly

PatsJolla ( 2015-07-11 14:55:32 +0200 )edit
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@AliNa FileCase sends photos videos music even jar files but still the bluetooth protocol on sailfish has some limitations like sending multiple files via bluetooth which is simply ridiculous, and more so, there are some files that are not able to be sent like jad files for instance, I think the limitations on file transfer should simply be removed and allow users to send what ever they desire. When I requested Cepi implements the multiple files transfer through bluetooth he cannot do that as sailfish doesn't allow it just yet

DameCENO ( 2015-08-08 16:44:56 +0200 )edit

@DameCENO, I also have difficulties sending text files. I don't know if the problem is in Sailfish or in FileCase, I just change the extension and it works.

Sending multiple photos from Gallery is on the roadmap for 2015 Q3, and I hope the problem you mentioned will be solved this way.

AliNa ( 2015-08-08 17:21:32 +0200 )edit
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Yes but what about receiving files ? Tried to send a .apk file from a sgs3 .. doesn't work, the phone doesn't ask anything.

malibu1106 ( 2015-11-03 15:08:30 +0200 )edit

I send and receive apk files from and to my jolla without problems, are you sure the bluetooth was turned on? Try pairing with the other device before sending the file if you encounter problems, I know for a fact that receiving apk or sending them through bluetooth is not not an issue on jolla. Sending multiple files on the go is the issue, as well as the ability to send or receive any file format as it was done on MeeGo

DameCENO ( 2015-12-26 16:09:43 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-04-13 21:37:27 +0200

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For me it is a big problem. I tried to send a mp3 file to my friend ..it was a big shame:(

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answered 2015-08-01 18:35:35 +0200

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I cannot agree more, honestly how can something as basic as bluetooth file share is a bug or limitation on sailfish, I am so disappointed. I do hope it is the priority of any future update for crying out loud!!! Yet Sailfish rocks, best os ever, and after all the little bug fixes in your numerous updates... I can't even begin to imagine how beautiful it would be...

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answered 2016-10-27 15:01:38 +0200

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A partial fix for this issue was delivered in update 2.0.4. We know that it is still not possible to share all file types (but most of them), including .html, .qml, .log, .json and files lacking an extension. However, it is possible to share json and log files, for instance, by adding the extension .txt to them. Investigations are carried on. Hopefully this issue can be fixed completely.

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Thanks for the official statement. I'm actually wandering why the filetype is an issue at all... usually I can transfer any file if I , for example, add the extension .jpg or any other supported extension. So the file is not getting analyzed...

PatsJolla ( 2016-10-27 15:18:26 +0200 )edit
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@jovirkku Unfortunately Sailfish OS also does not support multiple file transfer since there is no option to select more than one file in the file browser.

Alex ( 2016-12-27 18:39:31 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-10-23 10:59:50 +0200

thisisme gravatar image

This has been implemented in 2.0.4 release through Settings app -> Storage -> File manager (from pulley menu) -> long press on a file and select 'Share', Bluetooth option is available.

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You are right but IMO it's not fully implemented yet since you are still unable to send multiple files at once and still not all file types are supported e.g. qml and html files are not supported: https://together.jolla.com/question/148849/bug-bluetooth-is-not-present-in-share-page-for-qml-and-html-files/.

Also this bluetooth file sharing additionaly should be included into the relevant native apps (e.g. in the native media app to share music directly from it).

Alex ( 2016-10-23 12:46:33 +0200 )edit
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Maybe close this question and write new ones for specific features like those you mentioned then? Or tag it as partially implemented or something. I don't think sharing .qml or .html files via bluetooth is a very common use case... What other file types are not supported?

thisisme ( 2016-10-26 10:02:27 +0200 )edit
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answered 2017-12-12 18:41:05 +0200

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updated 2017-12-12 18:50:32 +0200

Still not able to send or receive any file type via Bluetooth (under SFOS 2.1.3.7, four years after this issue has been originally addressed)! E.g. file types rpm, xml, tar, gz and many more fail to be transferred.

Even worse is that SailfishOS does not mention the real reason (which is "unsupported file type"), but displays exactly the same error message which occurs when there is a Bluetooth connection error ("Oops, uploading did not work!"). Furthermore connection errors often occur when trying to transfer larger files (> 1 MB). Hence it is impossible for the user to distinguish an unsupported file type error from a Bluetooth connection error.

Please ultimately fix the file type limitations by allowing any file type to be transferred via Bluetooth.

P.S.: Yes, I know how to workaround this by appending a supported extension to the file I am going to transfer. But I regularly forget and this is really awkward for a Smartphone!

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answered 2014-10-08 16:08:25 +0200

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the way that i have found to transfer files is that change the extension of any file you wanna send to .jpg via file browser and open it then the option for sending is shown via bluetooth.

the reciever can change the extension to the original one before using it..

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It's not acceptable solutions. You may want to send multiple files, also reciever phone saves it in galerie etc...

SaimenSays ( 2014-10-08 21:32:10 +0200 )edit

its rather something than having not be able to send any file as possible .. just solution to the desperate people out there who wants to send a different kind of files besides images and videos

Ghost ( 2014-10-08 21:54:00 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-11-03 13:22:07 +0200

malibu1106 gravatar image

Same thing for receiving file .. Really boring .. (2.0.0.10)

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answered 2016-06-22 09:24:14 +0200

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I come back to this old subject... does it work now (2.0.1.11)? I tried to transfer some video files between 2 jollas and did not managed.

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It does work, but only for file formats the device can play without any additional codec or player. for instance trying to send an mp4 video will have no issue at all, but trying to send an wmv or 3gp video will just fail. Thus the need for Jolla to remove this limitation and let us users worry about what we send in our devices. Hope this answers your querry

DameCENO ( 2016-06-22 13:49:13 +0200 )edit

@DameCENO SFOS is able to play flac without additional codec but fails to transfer over bluetooth, tar/zip/gz are also preinstalled and failing to transfer, too. So this can't be the reason. It's more like they put some extensions in the list and forgot some other...

lpr ( 2016-06-22 20:14:19 +0200 )edit

@lpr that was my point exactly just failed to pass it across well enough, the BFTP on SFOS has a kind of white list and blacklist on which files get accepted and sent and which don't. I have been complaining about this from day one, and still these restrictions remain. The case is with more software updates there might be more compatibility with files the system can play but these restrictions on the other hand might be sticky

DameCENO ( 2016-06-23 14:10:03 +0200 )edit
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