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Do you want to Buy the new Intex Aquafish from India? [not relevant]

asked 2016-03-03 16:46:17 +0300

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updated 2018-07-03 09:57:16 +0300

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Disclaimer:

I am not a Jolla or Intex employee, nor am I associated with any of their partners anywhere in the world.


Update 5: Ebay India (ebay.in) doesn't accept PayPal for any orders on ebay.in. Due to stricter regulation by the Reserve Bank of India, eBay.in uses another service, called PaisaPay, to process payment for any order on ebay India. PaisaPay is similar to Paypal and also owned by eBay. Thus it is as safe as PayPal. You do not need to create a separate PaisaPay account and it will be shown automatically when you checkout to pay for an order. Please note that some users have reported that ebay has asked them to send additional documents - like photo of the debit / credit card used to make the payment and / or copy of last credit card statement. These additional verifications checks are to make sure that you are not using someone else's stolen debit / credit cards.

Tip: If you've emailed any documents to ebay, delete the email copy from your sent folder. That way, if you email account is hacked, you can ensure that your credit card info isn't stolen.


Update 4: Intex has started selling the Aqua Fish on ebay.in (Ebay India). The Intex authorised ebay seller will also ship the phone to any address in Americas, Europe, Asia. This makes things much easier for all those of you who are interested in importing this phone from India. As a reputed ecommerce company, eBay can ensure that you can safely buy and import this phone into your country with the least hassle (unlike through an individual like me who is ignorant about many aspect of international trade, and is also a stranger to you). It is perhaps due to the interest shown by all of you that Intex may have chosen ebay as their preferred online outlet - so that foreign buyers too can find it easy to procure the phone. As such, I strongly advise you to buy the phone through ebay.in ...

P.S: When I placed an order on ebay.in, and gave a US (New York) shipping address, the shipping charges shown was Rs. 1,600.00 (roughly around $25). As the phone costs Rs. 5500 (around $80), the total cost to import the phone to NY, US comes to only $80 + $25 = $105 (note: there may be additional currency conversion charges by ebay and import duty charges that I am unaware of).

If you need any help or have any doubts, let me know and I'll try my best to help you out.


Update 3: Apparently there was some confusion and Intex seems to have launched the Aquafish without much fanfare and publicity. Jolla has confirmed that the phone is indeed now available for sale. I talked with Intex India sales and they confirmed that the phone is also available for sale through their retail outlets. They have also confirmed that extra batteries, if required is available with them. (I have to however check with the couriers if extra batteries can be shipped separately, as there is tighter regulation for the same).


Update 2: The Jolla C (C is for "community" edition) is (in all probabilities) the new Intex Aquafish (with a branded Jolla cover, and a different Sailfish OS version - without all the crapware called partner-space). It was directly made available in Europe by Jolla to beta test the hardware / software of Intex Aquafish before its final launch. It is also the official developer phone of Jolla now. As such I strongly urge all who have shown interest here in buying the Intex Aquafish from India (through me) to contact Jolla and tell them you are very much interested in the Jolla C phone and would prefer to directly purchase it from them. Please also upvote and add to this discussion - Jolla C - campaign to add more users - who's interested?.

For those who have already shown interest by posting here, and couldn't get the Jolla C or are impatient and don't want to wait for it, my original offer still stands - will update when the phone launches.


If you are interested in this proposal, please POST as an answer here (rather then leave a comment). That way, I can easily count how many of you are on-board.


The new, licensed Sailfish OS powered Intex Aquafish was announced by Jolla and Intex at MWC16 recently. In all probabilities, the phone will be available only in India first, and will not be sold overseas. (Intex is an indian company). (I assumed wrong - the Jolla C phone is the Intex Aquafish with a different Sailfish OS version, and was launched in Europe first directly by Jolla).

For those of you really interested in purchasing and importing the phone from India, I can offer a solution. As an Indian, I can easily purchase the phone and ship it to you.

The process will be as follows:

  1. Contact me and sign-up with the escrow service.
  2. Deposit the money (all inclusive) with the escrow service.
  3. I will receive confirmation from escrow that you have deposited the money.
  4. I will then purchase and ship the phone (Fedex / DHL only) to you.
  5. Tracking number will be provided to you.
  6. Once the phone reaches you, I will request the escrow service to release the payment to me.
  7. The escrow service will ask you to confirm the release of the payment.
  8. If you are satisfied, release the payment.
  9. If you think you have been cheated, you can raise a dispute with the escrow service.
  10. The escrow will mediate between us.

Total cost will be - Price of phone + shipping charges + escrow charges (usually 10% of total amount) + customs handling charges (if applicable) + customs fees (if applicable) + VAT (if applicable). I won't be charging anything extra, and will be doing this on a no profit - no loss basis.

Please note that I haven't researched the actual charges or any of the local legal implications, for me, yet. While I have used escrow services before, freelancing as a developer, I will also have to explore whether such kind of deals are within their terms. If you are truly interested, please post below and then I will do further research and get back to you.


Europeans, please note that Intex Aquafish is NOT CE certified - I queried Intex about this and they have confirmed that their devices don't have this certification. Worst case, this could mean that customs can confiscate this device and decline its import to your country (this is supposed to be quite rare according to the comments and discussions below - use your own judgement).


There is no clear information on the phone specs yet or the launch date - this site has a different set of specs than this one*. I thought the phone would be launched in April 2016 but some sites say July 2016. Wikipedia page on Aqua Fish (when I checked last) says the phone will be launched only in September 2016 (the date in the wiki page has been changed again, but I think September 2016 is accurate).

*The phone specs should be similar to the Jolla C smartphone (scroll to the bottom).


If you are interested, please POST as an answer here (rather then leave a comment). That way, I can easily count how many of you are on-board. Once I decide to go ahead, I will update here with further details.


Update: All of your enthusiasm is contagious! As the first step, I'll enquire with Fedex / DHL / EMS what paperwork is legally required from me to be able to ship the phones abroad.


(While ideally, this should be a wiki, I will leave it as a Q&A due to the monetary nature of the proposal - to avoid any trolls from editing this post and adding any kind of misleading information).

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Looks like a great offer but you should charge as a bare minimum of at least 5% to cover the expenses this type of project will incur.

Richard

richardski ( 2016-03-03 17:52:59 +0300 )edit
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Sounds cool, how can we contact you?

steffenl ( 2016-03-03 17:53:07 +0300 )edit
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@richardski - Thanks for the suggestion. I, of course, do not wish to lose any money in the process. Overall, except for my time, I don't for see any additional expense. The phone will probably be sold online through Jolla's online indian partner who will ship the phone directly to my house. For delivery, Fedex / DHL can be asked to do a pick-up directly from my house too. They will also provide the packing material for free. It is only the currency fluctuations (between $US and INR) that worries me, and I will certainly need to hedge against that.

sifartech ( 2016-03-03 19:27:37 +0300 )edit
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@steffenl - If you are interested, please post as an answer here (rather then a comment). The answers will help me easily count how many are really onboard. Once I decide to go ahead, I will leave a comment to your answer and also update my post here with further details.

sifartech ( 2016-03-03 19:38:48 +0300 )edit
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It would probably also make sense to do combined shipping for users that are local to each other, and distribute the goods at e.g. SUG meetings. Less work for sifartech, and split shipping costs for buyers.

Okw ( 2016-03-03 23:51:26 +0300 )edit

I wonder, what if Intex allows only one phone to be ordered per account/person via SnapDeal! I expect to see a similar possible limitation in acquiring the phone through proper channel.

lal ( 2016-03-04 04:43:49 +0300 )edit

I have a questions, I am not indian, can I buy the device in a shop directly? because,I planned to travel there for 2 days , for buying it.

TMavica ( 2016-03-04 12:28:14 +0300 )edit

Do you know about European certifications? Are Intex devices CE-certified?

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2016-03-04 13:32:43 +0300 )edit

@TMavica, if they make the phone available only through SnapDeal (that's an online merchandise like Amazon) it would most probably be not possible in two days time.

I still suspect there would be some limitations like one device could be ordered per user id. Intex offers some of its products through SnapDeal and those have this limitation. Besides some of those products are not available through Intex outlets but just SnapDeal.

I wish to see Aqua Fish on stores though!

lal ( 2016-03-04 14:59:49 +0300 )edit

I am also interested but because I have no insights into frequencies I want to be sure it works in europe and has no other blocking apps/functionality.

CLR64 ( 2016-03-04 15:50:58 +0300 )edit

Maybe you should make this an indiegogo campaing and add donation perk for your troubles it would also allow you to add shipping options etc.

But maybe we should wait for reviews of the phone to make sure it works in EU etc.

anza ( 2016-03-04 18:01:57 +0300 )edit

that would be quite insane from Intex/Snapdeal to limit buyers on amount of devices. Unless production batch is really limited...

zlutor ( 2016-03-04 21:56:58 +0300 )edit

@TMavica - Intex do have a lot of authorised brick-and-mortar stores where you should be able to walk-in and buy any of their phones. My guess is, initially the phone will be offered exclusivly online only and then maybe after a short period the phone will also be available in all Intex stores in India.

sifartech ( 2016-03-04 22:57:33 +0300 )edit

@anza - I don't think indiegogo acts as an escrow service. And after the Jolla tablet fiasco, I doubt if anyone would want to believe the promises of a random Indian stranger on the net!

sifartech ( 2016-03-04 23:04:50 +0300 )edit

@Okw - Combined shipping may be tricky - I may have to apply for export license and such, from my government, and pay additional fees to them. Shipping one item at a time to an individual may help me stay under the radar; and I may also be able to specify the item as a 'gift' or 'product sample' and help the buyer / importer avoid custom duty (if any). Have to verify all this ... :)

sifartech ( 2016-03-04 23:16:31 +0300 )edit

@zlutor - It's not that far fetched really. For example, Intex may limit online sale if (1) They make only a limited batch of phones to test the market response (2) They decide to sell only a few phones online and the rest through their authorized store vendors or (3) They decide to create an artificial scarcity as a marketing publicity stunt.

sifartech ( 2016-03-04 23:42:46 +0300 )edit

@Giacomo Di Giacomo - There is no information regarding CE certifications for intex phones online anywhere. I have read though that most mobile phone manufactured now do conform to CE norms, though the manufacturers often do not bother to spend money on getting the device "CE certified" to save money (if the phones are not meant for Europe). I will try to get my hands on some of the older Intex mobiles and check if it has the "CE" markings anywhere on it. Do you think phones without "CE certifications" may be held up, and the import blocked, by European customs?

sifartech ( 2016-03-08 20:24:52 +0300 )edit

@sifartech there have been cases reported in the past where this was grounds for customs blocking electronics in Europe, IIRC pebble was one of the companies having problems. Even more reason for you to add a bit on top to cover for such circumstances. If everything goes perfect and you really do not want to keep the money: donate it to EFF, I think we would be all happy with that.

sidv ( 2016-03-08 23:55:39 +0300 )edit

I think this is getting a little out of hands... The way @sifartech originally explained his offer sounds to me like it's just between two private entities. In those circumstances CE doesn't mean a rats ass. If @sifartech was to become a retailer and he would sell those phones within the EEA, he and his product would have to conform European import regulations.

Okw ( 2016-03-09 00:25:58 +0300 )edit

@Okw see, the issue is that you may get a particular kind of German (one of the pebble-problem-countries) customs officer where your explanation of the fine difference between retailer and private sender doesn't mean a "rat's ass". Hence, @Giacomo Di Giacomo asked a reasonable question, maybe there is a label, then there is no problem.

sidv ( 2016-03-09 01:10:55 +0300 )edit

Indeed the devices could be theoretically blocked by customs, although I don't know a single case of non-CE-certified devices that have been blocked for this reason.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2016-03-09 10:18:46 +0300 )edit
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@Giacomo Di Giacomo pebble, Germany: pebble. Situation was even more ridiculous as pebble WAS CE certified (IIRC it is in part a self declaration) but just didn't have the sign in the proper place and missed papers/manuals. story, in German. You just can't make that stuff up...

sidv ( 2016-03-09 19:29:40 +0300 )edit

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answered 2016-07-19 11:58:31 +0300

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count me in,i would definitely buy one

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Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-27 01:09:26 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-07-26 18:40:44 +0300

I would like to buy the phone. any of my actions?

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Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-27 01:09:39 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-07-27 23:17:50 +0300

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aye aye capitan, I am 1x sailor more who, love to get one!

thank you!

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Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-30 18:21:42 +0300 )edit
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answered 2017-10-26 03:51:32 +0300

Kalatti gravatar image

@sifartech, you still selling the phone?? I'd be interested in buying one. Your ebay ad is no longer available.

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Hey, no - Unfortunately because of some trademark issue with another manufacturer, Intex is no longer selling the AquaFish model in India. But seconds and refurbished models are available on Ebay.in (but at an inflated price) if you are interested. See this ebay link.(Note: I have not sold the phones on ebay; the ebay sellers I linked to earlier are the authorised sellers. Please take the usual due precautions when buying from ebay).

sifartech ( 2017-11-19 03:38:44 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-04-28 23:50:00 +0300

MarcG gravatar image

NO. I hoped for a much beter hardware, symilar to the one+2 or the comming one+3. The INTEX Aqua GenX is better. Anyway, its a start. I stay hopeful for the future.

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If you are interested, please POST as an answer here (rather then leave a comment).

Did you even read the original post to the end? And you hoped for flagship hardware for announced price (less than 100€)?

avhakola ( 2016-04-29 00:38:12 +0300 )edit
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"If you are interested, please POST as an answer here (rather then leave a comment). That way, I can easily count how many of you are on-board." I recommend Google translate in case there are problems with English.

Stefanix ( 2016-04-29 21:11:02 +0300 )edit
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If you like THEN answer. If you NOT like THEN NOT answer. Understanding now?

alloj ( 2016-05-02 14:19:50 +0300 )edit
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This phone is targeted at a different segment of mobile users. Unlike in the west, Indians don't buy phones by taking on a debt and / or linked to their cellular plans. They pay the full amount of the phone and buy it outright. As such, more powerful specs would mean a costlier phone, and it would not be affordable to many. Thus, the specs of this phone try to balance power and cost.

sifartech ( 2016-05-08 23:41:39 +0300 )edit

Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-27 01:09:46 +0300 )edit

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