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Do you want to Buy the new Intex Aquafish from India? [not relevant]

asked 2016-03-03 16:46:17 +0300

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updated 2018-07-03 09:57:16 +0300

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Disclaimer:

I am not a Jolla or Intex employee, nor am I associated with any of their partners anywhere in the world.


Update 5: Ebay India (ebay.in) doesn't accept PayPal for any orders on ebay.in. Due to stricter regulation by the Reserve Bank of India, eBay.in uses another service, called PaisaPay, to process payment for any order on ebay India. PaisaPay is similar to Paypal and also owned by eBay. Thus it is as safe as PayPal. You do not need to create a separate PaisaPay account and it will be shown automatically when you checkout to pay for an order. Please note that some users have reported that ebay has asked them to send additional documents - like photo of the debit / credit card used to make the payment and / or copy of last credit card statement. These additional verifications checks are to make sure that you are not using someone else's stolen debit / credit cards.

Tip: If you've emailed any documents to ebay, delete the email copy from your sent folder. That way, if you email account is hacked, you can ensure that your credit card info isn't stolen.


Update 4: Intex has started selling the Aqua Fish on ebay.in (Ebay India). The Intex authorised ebay seller will also ship the phone to any address in Americas, Europe, Asia. This makes things much easier for all those of you who are interested in importing this phone from India. As a reputed ecommerce company, eBay can ensure that you can safely buy and import this phone into your country with the least hassle (unlike through an individual like me who is ignorant about many aspect of international trade, and is also a stranger to you). It is perhaps due to the interest shown by all of you that Intex may have chosen ebay as their preferred online outlet - so that foreign buyers too can find it easy to procure the phone. As such, I strongly advise you to buy the phone through ebay.in ...

P.S: When I placed an order on ebay.in, and gave a US (New York) shipping address, the shipping charges shown was Rs. 1,600.00 (roughly around $25). As the phone costs Rs. 5500 (around $80), the total cost to import the phone to NY, US comes to only $80 + $25 = $105 (note: there may be additional currency conversion charges by ebay and import duty charges that I am unaware of).

If you need any help or have any doubts, let me know and I'll try my best to help you out.


Update 3: Apparently there was some confusion and Intex seems to have launched the Aquafish without much fanfare and publicity. Jolla has confirmed that the phone is indeed now available for sale. I talked with Intex India sales and they confirmed that the phone is also available for sale through their retail outlets. They have also confirmed that extra batteries, if required is available with them. (I have to however check with the couriers if extra batteries can be shipped separately, as there is tighter regulation for the same).


Update 2: The Jolla C (C is for "community" edition) is (in all probabilities) the new Intex Aquafish (with a branded Jolla cover, and a different Sailfish OS version - without all the crapware called partner-space). It was directly made available in Europe by Jolla to beta test the hardware / software of Intex Aquafish before its final launch. It is also the official developer phone of Jolla now. As such I strongly urge all who have shown interest here in buying the Intex Aquafish from India (through me) to contact Jolla and tell them you are very much interested in the Jolla C phone and would prefer to directly purchase it from them. Please also upvote and add to this discussion - Jolla C - campaign to add more users - who's interested?.

For those who have already shown interest by posting here, and couldn't get the Jolla C or are impatient and don't want to wait for it, my original offer still stands - will update when the phone launches.


If you are interested in this proposal, please POST as an answer here (rather then leave a comment). That way, I can easily count how many of you are on-board.


The new, licensed Sailfish OS powered Intex Aquafish was announced by Jolla and Intex at MWC16 recently. In all probabilities, the phone will be available only in India first, and will not be sold overseas. (Intex is an indian company). (I assumed wrong - the Jolla C phone is the Intex Aquafish with a different Sailfish OS version, and was launched in Europe first directly by Jolla).

For those of you really interested in purchasing and importing the phone from India, I can offer a solution. As an Indian, I can easily purchase the phone and ship it to you.

The process will be as follows:

  1. Contact me and sign-up with the escrow service.
  2. Deposit the money (all inclusive) with the escrow service.
  3. I will receive confirmation from escrow that you have deposited the money.
  4. I will then purchase and ship the phone (Fedex / DHL only) to you.
  5. Tracking number will be provided to you.
  6. Once the phone reaches you, I will request the escrow service to release the payment to me.
  7. The escrow service will ask you to confirm the release of the payment.
  8. If you are satisfied, release the payment.
  9. If you think you have been cheated, you can raise a dispute with the escrow service.
  10. The escrow will mediate between us.

Total cost will be - Price of phone + shipping charges + escrow charges (usually 10% of total amount) + customs handling charges (if applicable) + customs fees (if applicable) + VAT (if applicable). I won't be charging anything extra, and will be doing this on a no profit - no loss basis.

Please note that I haven't researched the actual charges or any of the local legal implications, for me, yet. While I have used escrow services before, freelancing as a developer, I will also have to explore whether such kind of deals are within their terms. If you are truly interested, please post below and then I will do further research and get back to you.


Europeans, please note that Intex Aquafish is NOT CE certified - I queried Intex about this and they have confirmed that their devices don't have this certification. Worst case, this could mean that customs can confiscate this device and decline its import to your country (this is supposed to be quite rare according to the comments and discussions below - use your own judgement).


There is no clear information on the phone specs yet or the launch date - this site has a different set of specs than this one*. I thought the phone would be launched in April 2016 but some sites say July 2016. Wikipedia page on Aqua Fish (when I checked last) says the phone will be launched only in September 2016 (the date in the wiki page has been changed again, but I think September 2016 is accurate).

*The phone specs should be similar to the Jolla C smartphone (scroll to the bottom).


If you are interested, please POST as an answer here (rather then leave a comment). That way, I can easily count how many of you are on-board. Once I decide to go ahead, I will update here with further details.


Update: All of your enthusiasm is contagious! As the first step, I'll enquire with Fedex / DHL / EMS what paperwork is legally required from me to be able to ship the phones abroad.


(While ideally, this should be a wiki, I will leave it as a Q&A due to the monetary nature of the proposal - to avoid any trolls from editing this post and adding any kind of misleading information).

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Looks like a great offer but you should charge as a bare minimum of at least 5% to cover the expenses this type of project will incur.

Richard

richardski ( 2016-03-03 17:52:59 +0300 )edit
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Sounds cool, how can we contact you?

steffenl ( 2016-03-03 17:53:07 +0300 )edit
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@richardski - Thanks for the suggestion. I, of course, do not wish to lose any money in the process. Overall, except for my time, I don't for see any additional expense. The phone will probably be sold online through Jolla's online indian partner who will ship the phone directly to my house. For delivery, Fedex / DHL can be asked to do a pick-up directly from my house too. They will also provide the packing material for free. It is only the currency fluctuations (between $US and INR) that worries me, and I will certainly need to hedge against that.

sifartech ( 2016-03-03 19:27:37 +0300 )edit
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@steffenl - If you are interested, please post as an answer here (rather then a comment). The answers will help me easily count how many are really onboard. Once I decide to go ahead, I will leave a comment to your answer and also update my post here with further details.

sifartech ( 2016-03-03 19:38:48 +0300 )edit
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It would probably also make sense to do combined shipping for users that are local to each other, and distribute the goods at e.g. SUG meetings. Less work for sifartech, and split shipping costs for buyers.

Okw ( 2016-03-03 23:51:26 +0300 )edit

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answered 2016-03-03 21:47:29 +0300

speactra gravatar image

I am interested. Very good initiative.

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Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-27 01:01:03 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-04 13:31:31 +0300

Giacomo Di Giacomo gravatar image

I'd be happy to buy one but you should definitely charge something (at least 10%) because you will for sure incur in some trouble, e. g. lost or damaged packets, defective devices, etc. and you could risk to lose your own money.

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I will definitely keep that in mind. Thanks.

sifartech ( 2016-03-08 20:29:27 +0300 )edit

Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-27 01:00:27 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-04 09:46:17 +0300

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Interested, but we'll see what the price (especially shipping) will be :)

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For most European countries, Fedex gives a rough quote of $75 to $100. Ofcourse, lets not forget that this is FEDEX - they will also hold your parcel as hostage and demand a ransom from you in the form of customs handling charges (even if you don't have to pay any customs). That way, they get to charge BOTH the sender and the receiver and make more profit. Sucks for us.

sifartech ( 2016-03-09 23:02:54 +0300 )edit

I think DHL standard pricing is in the same ball park, maybe 70$. If the phone costs 100$ and the shipping is 70$, it would be 170$ + 24% VAT (Fin) = ~211$ without any escrow service or custom handling fees...

Pornis ( 2016-03-10 09:39:41 +0300 )edit

@Pornis - Would you have to pay VAT if the shipment is marked as a "gift"?

sifartech ( 2016-03-10 10:21:03 +0300 )edit
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Most likely. Low price (or Gift) marked on the package does not really matter. Small package shipped with normal post might slip through customs, but I don't think there's hope with Fedex or DHL.

Edit: I don't mind paying the VAT, but as the VAT is calculated shipping included that makes expensive shipping... well, even more expensive :)

Pornis ( 2016-03-10 10:29:57 +0300 )edit

@Pornis - That does suck bad - I am surprised europe taxes "gifts" of such low value too! I think EMS and Aramex are cheaper. They are reliable too. But shipping time maybe a bit more, and tracking a bit erratic sometimes. I can consider other cheaper shipping options, but in such cases the buyer would need to bear the increased risks (by paying me an advance).

sifartech ( 2016-03-10 11:02:10 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-04 11:23:01 +0300

malk4ever gravatar image

I am. But only if it is confirmed that I can remove the "SuperApp"-Ads.

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There is no information yet from Jolla on this. :(

sifartech ( 2016-03-08 20:30:35 +0300 )edit

Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-27 01:01:39 +0300 )edit
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Super apps can easily be removed by deleting associated system files. On update or restore these may have to be deleted again.

XFish ( 2017-10-26 07:56:49 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-03 21:18:52 +0300

Stefanix gravatar image

Interested. Thanks for the idea and your effort!

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Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-27 01:01:47 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-03 22:09:40 +0300

sidv gravatar image

I'll buy one if the baseband works with any frequency in the US.

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It's 2G just like the OTH.

grantmcwilliams ( 2016-04-29 09:05:35 +0300 )edit

Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-27 01:01:54 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-03 23:01:02 +0300

jobe-m gravatar image

Yes, me too. I would also like to buy it. Thanks for your effort!

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Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-27 01:02:02 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-04 07:57:41 +0300

lupastro gravatar image

+1 - Which is supposed to be the selling price in India?

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6,899 R. http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/intex-aqua-fish-with-sailfish-os-20-unveiled-at-mwc-2016-806246

Thats around 95 €, not bad imho ;)

malk4ever ( 2016-03-04 11:25:26 +0300 )edit

Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-27 01:02:13 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-04 16:49:04 +0300

Huholoman gravatar image

Hello, i think, im interested in too.

I just want to know, if my phone breaks up, what can i do?

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Not much... Maybe you can ask if @sifartech would be kind enough to handle the warranty repairs for small fee and expenses covered or buy a new one for you.

avhakola ( 2016-03-04 17:40:21 +0300 )edit

Unfortunately that's always a risk with any foreign goods (if my Jolla stops working, I too will have to ship it abroad - to Finland - to get it fixed). As @avhakola put it, if you cover all the charges (shipping + repair), I wouldn't mind helping you out in such situation (provided you also don't lose your patience - I work too and can't ignore that).

sifartech ( 2016-03-05 02:40:27 +0300 )edit

Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-27 01:02:23 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-05 00:15:22 +0300

mosen gravatar image

Im in up to 200€ total cost. I would like to donate ~10% to you if this really happens! Thanks for your effort.

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Appreciate your thoughtfulness! Have to wait for the actual product to be available to see how this pans out.

sifartech ( 2016-03-08 20:40:03 +0300 )edit

Please see the latest update I posted. Summary: Best option currently may be to buy the phone directly from Intex authorised ebay seller than through me.

sifartech ( 2016-07-27 01:02:30 +0300 )edit

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