asked 2016-03-11 08:57:18 +0300
January, 19:
Taalojärvi enters into early access We hope you enjoy the early access version of this release! We will release this to everybody *in a few weeks.
Again, after the poor communication during the "tablet crisis", vague promises are not kept. How long are two [misstyping: meant "few"] weeks? People ask for security patches. Whats up, jolla, are you still working?
answered 2016-03-11 18:14:46 +0300
@ossi1967 They still trying to solve this bug. They had delay because of MWC. Now I'm testing their solution for this bug and it looks it's working.
answered 2016-03-11 09:12:19 +0300
Jolla said the public release is postponed because of this bug:
https://together.jolla.com/question/128005/bug201taalojarvi-auto-ignoring-incoming-connection/
(Btw: How come you translate "in a few weeks" to "two weeks"? ;) )
Releasing for each CVE one update isn't hard.
If one CVE fix is a blocker, then at least release the other fixes instead of postponing them all to never.
Updates should be split in security bugfixes and nice-to-have updates.
RoestVrijStaal ( 2016-03-11 09:24:48 +0300 )editJolla mentioned it in post ... which number is ist? What is that blog for, then? Oh, if this is the new way to spread information, is there a tag of official jolla statements or am i informed by accidentally reading some postings or not. By the way, how come you still have a section for tablets on jolla.com? "Sorry, the tablet is sold out, but leave a mesasge to be informed about availabilty?" Pardon, this is ridiculous.
Moo-Crumpus ( 2016-03-11 10:10:57 +0300 )edit@Moo-Crumpus The tablet is sold out, isn't it? What's wrong with that?
ossi1967 ( 2016-03-11 10:37:16 +0300 )editgood remark from atlochowski generally every business-shows take a lots of resources... especially before, but after too.
@atlochowski your comment direct above, is for me the best answer for this thread.
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they only now are hiring back developers. Of course everything will take longer. I guess they will be back on track with monthly updates by summer (i hope)
virgi26 ( 2016-03-11 10:54:37 +0300 )editThey were never on track with monthly updates. (OK, I joined the caravan a bit later so I may have missed a few monthly updates in the first 6 months or so, but ever since I have had a Jolla, the average frequency of updates was between 2 and 3 months. Including early updates.)
Either way, if you know you are under-staffed and cannot keep the promises, then simply do not give them.
Edit: You see the topic "last updated by pichlo". That's because I fixed a spelling mistake in the title.
pichlo ( 2016-03-11 13:13:46 +0300 )edit@pichlo, i think the problem is that people take vague timeframes as cast iron promises.
r0kk3rz ( 2016-03-11 15:40:51 +0300 )editI don't agree. When someone talks of a few weeks, I take this seriously. It makes a difference whether spoken by a few days, weeks or months. So a few weeks are less than a month, otherwise one could call a month.A few weeks is less then a few month, in any case. I think the problem lies in Jolla's frivolous, thoughtless utterances. They hire developpers, said virgi26. Was there any communication about it, or is ist just a hopefull guess of him/her? Either way, if under-staffed simply don't give promisses, or be sincere.
When I have not enough employees to fix a bug, should I release alpha or beta early updates? NOT AT ALL.
Moo-Crumpus ( 2016-03-11 15:57:07 +0300 )edit@r0kk3rz i dont think people take the timeframes too serious... its just that people are alway wondering whats going on... the discovery of the bug and that its the reson for the delay is several weeks old. so is it really that... jsut a weekly update would be enough. like:
this bug still blocks the release - updated timeframe: xxxxx
just spread information about whats going on inside - communication thats still whats wrong...
misc11 ( 2016-03-11 15:59:55 +0300 )editOpen development would mean an open bugtracking tool so we can see and help with what is going on. Of course that would mean opensource in the first place.
lispy ( 2016-03-11 17:38:20 +0300 )edit@chemist "There is no news, stay tuned!" every couple of days <- is that really what you are asking for?" No. I am asking for professionalism.
Moo-Crumpus ( 2016-03-11 21:35:11 +0300 )editIt's simply never okay for you people. If they stay silent, it's "there is no communication, you suck". If they make extremely vague deadlines, it's "don't make empty promises, you suck". I bet if they set a specific date and released the revision before that date because it was already finished, you would complain about that as well.
nthn ( 2016-03-11 22:26:20 +0300 )edit