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What will your next phone be? [answered]

asked 2016-03-16 15:59:50 +0300

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updated 2018-07-03 10:00:00 +0300

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My Jolla phone is showing its age these days: the battery is failing, a third party spare (Cameron Sino) that I bought doesn't work brilliantly (possibly it was loose: been better the last few days since I jammed it in with some paper), and generally the phone struggles with modern web sites and apps - although its built-in basic features all still work as well as ever.

What phones are you looking at as replacements for your Jolla? Is there a modern phone which runs Sailfish well? Looking at the Cyanogen compatibility matrix, many of the models listed are a few years old, and compatibility is patchy. Are you looking at the Ubuntu phone? Etc.

I'm quite attracted by the Sony Z series: powerful, waterproof, has an impressive compact model, and Sony seem to have an open source support policy of sorts; older models at least run Cyanogen though I'm not sure about the current ones. Very interested in dual SIM, but their open source layer, and of course Sailfish, don't support that.

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i think that the current official sfos phones which would be supported for sure from jolla are the intex and the fairphone. Others are more or less ported one, and not expected to be fully supported at the moment...

cemoi71 ( 2016-03-16 16:30:35 +0300 )edit
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I own a OnePlus X with 3GB RAM. But I dislike poor android. I hope the port of Sailfish will work soon (main camera, head phone etc, and android support) yes, hardware of my jolla is old, camera lost sharpness and green color is to weak. But 1GB RAM is the main reason.

torti17 ( 2016-03-16 18:29:21 +0300 )edit
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Lots of Jolla users have probably already moved on.... I have.

FJVA ( 2016-04-05 22:43:55 +0300 )edit

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answered 2016-04-07 09:07:19 +0300

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Turing phone as and when it appears Aquafish will make a good runaround phone too magic combo

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answered 2016-04-03 16:24:56 +0300

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When my Jolla phone will die (and there are some disturbing signs lately), I will have to make a hard choice. I would love to stay with SFOS (even with the inferior v. 2.0 UI)

  1. SFOS phone
  2. Jolla phone is outdated (SFOS on it is slow, but maybe it's just that I never made a factory reset, just regularly updated the OS), and its price is high. Higher price is ok, but dim screen, bad camera, little RAM, slow CPU are not.
  3. Fairphone - A bit too expensive for a phone without official SFOS support. Big.
  4. Intex - Partner spaces?!? No, thanks. Besides, hardware-wise it looks too much like the Jolla phone, which is too slow from my experience.
  5. Fairphone with official SFOS support and Alien Dalvik seems the best choice, as I fear there won't be another SFOS phone from Jolla or "Jolla Hardware".

  6. Non SFOS phone.

  7. iPhone SE with its 4inch screen and modern internals. Will match my iPad and MacBook (as Jolla Tablet didn't happen). I won't buy an Android phone because I don't like Android. I wished for more native SFOS apps (Instagram, Facebook, Whatsapp, Skype etc.) to get rid of Alien Dalvik, but... They are in the same parallel reality as the Jolla tablet and new Jolla phone. So, iOS is another logical choice.
  8. Windows Phone - the new underdog. Shiny phones that lack apps, will be at least familiar to my SFOS experience.
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4 inch would be the ideal dimension for SFOS imho. Let's say the format of the ipod touch. iPod touch would actually be the ideal SFOS phone!

FJVA ( 2016-04-05 21:22:03 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-04-03 10:21:15 +0300

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Apple 6S+ Great device! Everything just works..... which is nice for a change. Gives me the E90 feeling actually. Screen gets less smudgy, smudge could be a draw back of the swipe only approach; or just a quality thing.

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answered 2016-03-31 00:16:11 +0300

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On my second Jolla phone, and when this one is life expired (through me dropping it or battery life), I'll get something with a great camera and a screen I can see in daylight. Ideally it will have SFOS factory installed, but I miss my N8 and I want to get back to that level of camera quality and daylight screen visibility. After this time I'd like to see Sailfish stepping up on hardware choice. I might not wait much longer. To be honest the Honor 7 looks good right now :/

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answered 2016-03-30 14:05:44 +0300

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updated 2016-03-30 21:44:40 +0300

My next phone is already an Oneplus X with SFOS flashed. It is incredibly stable already. Some little quirks with image orientation from the camera and vibra. But vibra is already fixed by kimmoli and should be included in the next release.

Of course no Android app support yet. But sfdroid might work some day here, too. And no Jolla store access yet.

What I really like on the phone is:

  • AMOLED display - it's so much better than the Jolla phone display, 5" is perfect size for me
  • 3GB RAM - no annoying app closures
  • curved display edges feel good with edge swipes
  • SD card support or second SIM slot (2nd SIM not yet usable but might come with the aquafish support)
  • blank screen touch gesture support to control media player, flashlight, open phone call log directly and double tap to wake up the display
  • tristate switch (HW switch) to directly choose between 3 ambiances
  • very affordable prize tag

Most of the stuff was enabled by kimmoli. Big thanks to him and Taaeem for the inital port!

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Can/will the blank screen gestures be ported to all SFOS phones? Paging @kimmoli??

ApB ( 2016-03-30 17:40:02 +0300 )edit

The nice progress with the Oneplus X might be a result that Oneplus publishes the kernel sources in a usable form on github. No idea if the touch gestures on the blank screen need a special touch HW or driver SW or just some kernel support. But apparently everything seems to be in place here :)

jobe-m ( 2016-03-30 20:28:15 +0300 )edit
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@ApB propably not on _all_ phones. I tweaked kernel driver a bit to make it work together with mce (thanks to @spiiroin for mce changes).

ofc it can be made to work, but either needs kernel driver tweaking if hw supports them, or by software but it might cost high battery drain.

@jobe-m well, i headbanged 2 days on wrong vibra-driver as it was enable in defconfig - and there is not even that chip in the phone. And do not forget @Taaeem (hope this is his uid here) for making most of the port. i just tweaked some small parts on top of it.

kimmoli ( 2016-03-30 21:41:18 +0300 )edit

@kimmoli have you tried J1?

ApB ( 2016-03-30 23:21:11 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-26 20:57:30 +0300

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updated 2016-03-27 14:18:26 +0300

As I prepare to reset my phone to factory settings and return it for the fourth time . . . . . . what I do know is I won't shell out any more on hardware provided by Jolla....... but I am also not prepared to 'go back' to android after SFOS. Now I never thought I'd hear myself say this, but after buying a cheap (nokia 635) windows phone, the OS in and of itself, is actually not bad, I always liked nokias hardware, but that's not a good example, and I dislike MS's spyware, but as a backup second phone, it's been OK. I also recently upgraded that to a Lumia 535, which again, is actually pretty decent, and 'another Jolla' would need to be sporting a 5'' screen and not less, definitely better than the current Jolla screen, and has already been mentioned, more RAM is required. If windows 8.1 or whatever it is can run as well as it does on that 535, I can only imagine how well SFOS could run on something decent. I wouldn't buy an Intex Aquafish, for the simple reason that if it goes faulty, India's a damn site more of a PITA to return it to than Finland is! So no, that's out of the question. Ubuntu phone? No......... it's in even more of an infancy stage than SFOS is, although they're throwing it out there on some decent hardware now (Meizu) and at least the BQ's are getting the name out there for the world to see.... Then you have the Fairphone2, looks great, just too expensive for me at the moment, and bad experience with this hardware is making me cautious about throwing good money at a 'concept' again, but in fairness, currently this appears to be the best of the bunch, unless......... the Turing Phone throws the gauntlet down at the same sort of money, or less, no one seems to know, but that looks the tastiest to me hardware & looks wise. All I know is SFOS needs to be out there on far more hardware, it certainly deserves to be, and it needs something doing about the apps situation, before it gets a good kicking from Ubuntu, or dare I utter it, Windows, and ends up paling into insignificance as 'that linux mobile project' that used to be around.

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Windows is dead and Ubuntu will forever remain a nerd OS unless it gets Android support. There's not much point in a smartphone without apps for almost everybody out there.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2016-03-28 16:50:52 +0300 )edit

" There's not much point in a smartphone without apps for almost everybody out there. " Well if like I am, you're using a Jolla phone then you're already using a phone that's not offering apps for almost everybody out there. Satnav app ? email app ? That's just two cos i cant be ar*d typing the long list of apps we don't have, meanwhile, the windows you claim is dead, has them all, as the americans like to say, go figure. My phone is due to arrive back tomorrow, I'll see how long this one lasts, and I'm having a bet here that this time it'll have been repaired and not replaced as everyone seems to say they're always 'out of stock'. Meanwhile I haven't missed it the same this time as I did the last 3 other occasions I sent it back, it seems having to live with a windows phone has been less of a trial than when I had to make do with an Android phone, never thought I'd hear myself say that as a Linux fan of many years but . . . . . . . . . . . . well, true story . . . . : /

davekelly ( 2016-04-14 00:59:42 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-18 10:27:35 +0300

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Lack of HW is a huge problem at the moment. So no idea. FP2 is huge, Turing is huge and (seems to be) vaporwear and the intex one is not something i'd buy either (size). And to add to the above jolla isn't in a position to develop a new phone.

SFOS deserves nice HW. :/

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What about Nexus 5/4 community ports?

codeandcreate ( 2016-03-18 11:00:53 +0300 )edit

No. I'd prefer something Xperia Z5 compact sized with official support.

ApB ( 2016-03-18 14:29:57 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-17 19:01:57 +0300

Giacomo Di Giacomo gravatar image

The first damn thing that runs SFOS with real Android support I can get my hands on. Or, in the case my Jolla dies or cannot run an app I need (whichever comes first) before that day, I am currently oriented towards the Zopo Speed 8. By the way, I remember back in 2013 Zopo announced they would have supported SFOS. Sadly this did not happen...

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I know you are aware of this, but I'll leave it here for others who don't know about it and are in similar situation: https://together.jolla.com/question/130868/do-you-want-to-buy-the-new-intex-aquafish-from-india/

avhakola ( 2016-03-17 21:50:53 +0300 )edit

sfdroid looks also nice... if alien dalvik won't be supported on for example fairphone 2 but sfdroid (look at nexus 4/5 port) runs, i would buy it, i think :)

codeandcreate ( 2016-03-18 09:59:07 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-17 00:44:17 +0300

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I will continue to use my Jolla until it simply dies, then I will go for the FP2. Untill I can afford the FP2 I will default to my old N900.

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answered 2016-03-16 20:20:07 +0300

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updated 2016-03-16 20:22:36 +0300

What about a SailfishOS licence system (incl active sync, Alien, ...) wich let us choose the device we want and just pay a yearly fee for the OS to Jolla - so the community can port the free parts to every device they want (and are able to) and Jolla provides the rest as a paid premium - that would be freedom of choice;-)

Oh and my next device - anything smaller then 5" and without android or iOS ;-)

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