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Remove aptoide!why jolla allows a store(i.e,aptoide) that consist pornographic material? [subjective]

asked 2016-05-25 15:41:26 +0200

Gouse gravatar image

updated 2016-05-26 12:52:47 +0200

Although play store ,ios app store ,windows store doesn't allow any pornographic material on their stores. But jolla suggesting us to install aptoide which consists of such material. So it is bad to jolla to allow such stores to suggest to install us.

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Why other stores are allowed to ban pornographic material? I would ban such stores!

hoschi ( 2016-05-25 15:43:10 +0200 )edit
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So you prefer a phone without a web browser? Porn is fun! Install tumblr and enjoy!

ossi1967 ( 2016-05-25 15:43:10 +0200 )edit
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I suggest to remove it because app and game stores are for all ages especially for children & teens. Ya i hate porn thats why i stopped buying jolla because of this reason.

Gouse ( 2016-05-25 15:46:31 +0200 )edit
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@Gouse Jolla is freedom, free will, independence and that kind of things. Obviously not for you.

objectifnul ( 2016-05-25 16:04:04 +0200 )edit
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@Gouse you should really try porn! its fun!

misc11 ( 2016-05-25 16:09:04 +0200 )edit

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answered 2016-05-25 16:25:11 +0200

MoritzJT gravatar image

The decision to provide Aptoide as Android Store probably was rooted in other concerns than for filtering out 'offending' material.

Now on the other hand looking at our population using smartphones - I wonder if minors that might not yet be mature enough to judge material they see in a educated fashion - should those use smartphones at all? That's a question I'm willing to ask. But one answer is to enlighten the user of a tool (smartphone) with its proper use.

There should be no issue with allowing porn or whatever in a store then.

If you just registered here to promote your views on the point, I guess you're going to hit a hard wall.

A little advice - don't push your beliefs onto others. Especially not in such a manner that does not bring any arguments at all.

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My big advice:don't push your beliefs onto me! Thiis question brings a big aurgment and disacussion within hours.. and why google,apple,microsoft stops that content ? Because they understand their users . i think jolla cant So,what now? If you think by making a question i am hitting wall then it might brake thats my startegy. You are none to stop me

Gouse ( 2016-05-25 16:56:20 +0200 )edit
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@Gouse so you are here on your cruisade against porn? good luck with that. others have tried that before and failed miserably before you. your evil views will not prevail!

misc11 ( 2016-05-25 17:00:21 +0200 )edit
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I made a guess, which does not reflect my point of view nor does it include any agenda. I'm just trying to predict what might be unraveling if this route is pushed ;-)

You see Jolla as responcible for pushing Aptoide to at least allow for more precise filtering and maybe some age verification to prevent access to 'offensive' material to minors or even in general do not allow any such content?

So far I'm not intent on stopping you to reach whatever goal you've set yourself. I just estimated that you're not a one man army and you might be fighting a proper one on this deeply biased issue.

Good luck!

MoritzJT ( 2016-05-25 17:06:04 +0200 )edit
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@misc11 Ya misc11,iam against porn.not just me there are more people on web and real world. Iam a science student and why should i accept a act that result in prostitution,sex slavery,child abuse and results in more bad things. If you mean i doing crusade,jihad? Iam not making any one hurt or cause any loss. iam just want to bring a change. I gain atleast one and may that become two,three,four.... Thats what i intended its for change only . I dont get any thing personally from it.

Gouse ( 2016-05-25 18:04:39 +0200 )edit
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@Gouse you are hurting people! you are hurting the respectable people that work as porn actors and prostitutes. you hurt all sex workers already by putting their job in a place together with crimes like sex slavery, child abuse, which are real problems but have nothing to do with porn; and by saying they are immoral and unethic you are insulting them and their lifestyles even more. you are doing harm! while porn does nobody any harm.

misc11 ( 2016-05-25 18:13:56 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-05-25 19:02:54 +0200

objectifnul gravatar image

If your eyes allow you to see offending things, pull them out.

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Lol! I will pull your first then mine. Why you are raging on me. It doesnt make sense.

Gouse ( 2016-05-26 03:36:37 +0200 )edit
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Now you are verging on the unacceptable. As you said before, Jolla is not for people like you. I suggest you leave. There are plenty of other mobile ecosystems with censorship to comply with your antiquated intolerance.

Bottom line: if you don't trust your own judgement (which is understandable), you're better indeed trusting censors' judgement.

objectifnul ( 2016-05-26 10:32:52 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-05-25 22:52:30 +0200

hoschi gravatar image

updated 2016-05-25 22:52:59 +0200

Allow a kid only access to internet, if her/his mind is mature enough to distinct things which are good or bad for them. Because:

  • the internet is the mirror of the world
  • a kid will always find a way to access what it wants, a kid has all the time necessary and new technology is just usual for them
  • security-software (snakeoil) doesn't work, it can't decide what is good or bad
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Exactly. But as you say it's impossible to prevent access one way or the other, better focus most ressources on making its mind mature at the right time. This might be necessary earlier than previous generations due to the internet. So be it.

MoritzJT ( 2016-05-25 23:53:54 +0200 )edit
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Yes. Your conclusion is right, I think the same.

hoschi ( 2016-05-26 00:03:45 +0200 )edit

@hoschi i address your bullet points:

  • App store is not view of the internet. It is what store owners decide

  • How can kid find something in store if store owners have not put it there? Nonsense!

  • Vetting of software by maintainers is important. It is not 100% far from it. Locks are not 100% either but are used because they are good enough. You have to have standard and process to improve on. The store will become chaos if not!

alloj ( 2016-05-26 13:53:04 +0200 )edit
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Allright then alloj - give Aptoide some money so they can employ a few folks who will do quality assurance. No bad stuff shall pass. Only high quality content, BUT not based on a moral compass, only on an ethical one. It will not make a difference on your concerns - you will also have to place some restriction for minors in place. Or will you pull all the content because they can always circumvent these lockouts? Will all mature people have to accept a loss to apease your moral allignment?

MoritzJT ( 2016-05-26 14:03:45 +0200 )edit

@MoritzJT Malware by definition is bad!

alloj ( 2016-05-26 14:10:11 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-05-26 11:59:20 +0200

tapio gravatar image

rather entertaining discussion here...

IMHO Jolla is not pushing anything, it merely provides possibilities in the Jolla Store that you can freely choose from. Aptoide is an Android marketplace for apps, in fact you don't need it on a Jolla, since we have a store dedicated to our beloved platform. don't like the proposals? write your own code and share it!

anywhere in the world and on the net there is content that might be offending to someone, while others are in great need for it. that's the way the world turns around. you don't have to drink beer because it is in the shop, you are free to buy a lemonade.

google, apple, facebook and others try to keep the net free from repellent things like child abuse. that is a good thing. in their quest however these US based firms try to force their overly Victorian morality on the rest of the world, banning common nudity and even medieval painted art because it is 'porn' in their twisted minds. here in the EU nudity is accepted and has absolutely nothing to do with things that pop up in dirty minds. sauna has nothing to do with sex.

when selecting apps for an app store, it's a great help when the provider --here: Jolla-- makes a selection on the good, bad and ugly, banning evident dangerous software. pointing to google, apple and facebook in that they 'do the right thing' comes from a distorted view. namely these three corps provide tools that mislead and steal our personal data for their own purpose. they build user profiles that superficially might serve you (and serve their advertising income way more), but also can be used to harm you just 'beacuse their data says'. such is very harmful for society and free living mankind. G/A/F are manipulating society.

so offering an app to make a shopping list doesn't make Jolla foster alcoholism, offering a sauna temperature gauge doesn't oblige you to take off your clothes.

and now please carry on, using your Jolla with great joy!

TIA,

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answered 2016-05-26 12:01:52 +0200

avhakola gravatar image

updated 2016-05-26 12:02:57 +0200

https://together.jolla.com/question/6492/android-app-stores-for-jolla-list-w-feedback-opinions-user-friendliness-etc/

Maybe one of these fits your needs better than Apptoide?

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@avhakola I don't think constructive feedback or choice is what ppl like Gouse are looking for.

ossi1967 ( 2016-05-26 13:50:05 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-05-26 12:45:35 +0200

alloj gravatar image

updated 2016-05-26 13:14:08 +0200

What happened to mohammed10 answer? It was good post about porn apps and malware in aptoide store. Was it censored?

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Gouse deleted it :(

misc11 ( 2016-05-26 12:55:00 +0200 )edit
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@alloj i will add it again with brief explanation about software & other threats by aptiode store. As a tech enthusiast i just know about that store's bad reputation. If i open the site chromevwarns me always thats why i wrote this answer against aptoide as well as porn.but unfortunately trolls here mocking me so i need to get free from their comments . So i removed it for sake of my day not of any fear or by any thing.

Mohammed10 ( 2016-05-26 13:11:42 +0200 )edit

@Mohammed10 To warn is right. I encourage you to give explanation for there are many ignorant people here. This is important topic on the malware aspect alone. I fear Jolla community has become complacent and intellectually lazy.

alloj ( 2016-05-26 14:34:49 +0200 )edit
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Intellectually lazy, simpleminded. I am soooo close to being triggered. Just a little more and I might try a discussion with you folks :D

Can you write one coherent comment that describes the issue in detail AND delivers proof to your points? It's up to you!

MoritzJT ( 2016-05-26 15:44:57 +0200 )edit

@MoritzJT take it easy! i think you are about to trigger because of strength of our arguments. no need to get worked up! if you have medication maybe take as precaution? i think it was malware aspect that blew you guys off water. happens to best of us! complex topic after all...

alloj ( 2016-05-26 16:15:48 +0200 )edit

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