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SFOS needs smaller phones

asked 2016-05-29 22:23:00 +0300

romu70 gravatar image

Dear Jolla fellows, On the past year, you''ve made tremendous efforts to create Sailfish OS. I love this OS, seriously, and it's amazing how usable it is with one hand only.

Your Jolla phone is pretty wide already for people who have small hands, like me. A wide phone questions the ability to use the phone with one hand only, despite the SFOS efforts in this direction. And now, the Jolla C is even wider than the Jolla 1. I could have bought one, I was in time, but when I saw 72 mm width, my first feeling was WTF!

Get back few years ago for a moment, when the N9 was revealed. Ok, the times were not in favor of big phones at this moment. But the N9 was a beaufitul piece of engineering of both hardware and software. It was fascinating how the hardware was designed to emphasize the MeeGo interface daily use, I think in particular of the 2.5D screen which led the thumb on the screen edges.

Being able to use SFOS with one hand is also good enough. But if you decide to embed it into wide phones, you'll loose one of the SFOS "raisons d'être". Hope to see SFOS embedded into smaller phones in the future.

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this is so true...

NuklearFart ( 2016-05-29 22:53:04 +0300 )edit
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The Huawei Mate 8, that has a 6 inch screen, is perfectly usable with one hand. Just slide horizontally on the lower part of the screen with your thumb and the screen shrinks to 4" size, so you can enter your commands, then slide it back to its full size. And it fits in my jeans' pocket, BTW.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2016-05-30 00:20:47 +0300 )edit
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Huawei Mate 8 > Dimensions 157.1 x 80.6 x 7.9 mm

"Is that an iPad in your pocket or you are happy to see me" (j/k)

:P

ApB ( 2016-05-30 01:50:37 +0300 )edit
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"usable with one hand" is only one factor - and to me not even the most important one. "Fits easily in my pocket" is much more important to me - and the Jolla 1 already stretches that (pun intended). Something with the form factor of the old Nokia N900 (maybe somewhat thinner - but then again, the N900 had a good H/W keyboard) would be great.

dyraig ( 2016-05-30 10:22:06 +0300 )edit

@ApB It's about the size of a wallet, but much thinner.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2016-05-30 10:26:49 +0300 )edit

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answered 2016-05-31 00:24:30 +0300

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updated 2016-05-31 00:53:55 +0300

See the other thread: Specs for 2nd device hardware

Like you, many - me included - asked for a smaller phone, for the very reason you mentioned. An OS that is made for one-handed operation should complement a phone that physically can be used with one hand. However, some were asking for an even bigger screen size.

EDIT: see also this remark on one-handed use of (small) phones

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https://together.jolla.com/question/19564/jolla-2nd-device-hw-suggestions/?answer=19600#post-id-19600

And a tiny note on the hardware suggestions... None of the more voted answers suggest a larger screen.

vattuvarg ( 2016-05-31 00:36:20 +0300 )edit

@vattuvarg: you are right - I just edited my answer accordingly

AkiBerlin ( 2016-05-31 00:53:06 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-05-30 23:08:02 +0300

zemiacsik gravatar image

updated 2016-05-31 11:29:36 +0300

That would be so awesome! I have recently bought a N9 (there was not Jolla available) and it fits just perfect, so I think I can not imagine myself with something bigger than 4,5"/4,7".

BTW: What is the process of making a phone? Like you just pick right compoments and put them together (as building a PC) or it is more sophisticated? I think you probably need to fit OS build for that too, but is it like the main issue?

EDIT: I am sorry for creating an answer, it should be a comment. I am new here so I do not know how it works around here yet.

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You basically just need money. Quite a lot of them.

ApB ( 2016-05-30 23:11:18 +0300 )edit

So if someone wants to experiment, it is not like ordering HW, putting it together and than playing with OS customisation?

zemiacsik ( 2016-05-31 11:10:54 +0300 )edit
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There are some development boards of the SoC with all the HW (modems etc) i think but those are quite expensive and i am not sure anyone can buy them.

However there is more to making a phone than the chips and porting the SW. There is the design certifications etc etc which also cost money. And speaking of SW we are in a really dire situation. All drivers are android only if you are not a company like Apple or Samsung.

ApB ( 2016-05-31 11:32:07 +0300 )edit
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