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[Not a question] Sailfish OS is now the only accepted mobile OS for new government and state owned phones acquisitions in Russia

asked 2016-11-29 10:43:21 +0200

avhakola gravatar image

updated 2016-11-29 10:44:19 +0200

According to this news article (in Finnish) http://www.arvopaperi.fi/kaikki_uutiset/jollan-sailfish-ui-vahvasti-venajalla-6603103 SFOS is now the only accepted mobile OS in the future acquisition of mobile phones by the government and state owned companies in Russia. OMP (Open Mobile Platform, Jolla's licensing partener in Russia) has also started recruiting local developers.

Also in the same article they mention Jolla is also negotiating on creating local mobile ecosystems in China and South-Africa.

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Hmmm, good and bad news.

Good, it will get more encryption stuff and a more stable base for the company and the jolla OS to continuing...

Bad, that all the secret services around the globe will investigate in breaking the jolla OS, but will not tell us about the security issues :-(

poddl ( 2016-11-29 11:03:44 +0200 )edit

Phantastic news! Might be a game changer. Looking forward to hear more good news and see a new SF OS device available soon!

Stefanix ( 2016-11-29 11:34:44 +0200 )edit

We see it in the news that or russia is very dynamic and enterprising with this os.
On the one hand i understand the motivation, and it is correct to make such investment. On the other hand sometimes it goes to far in the limit that the interest is then bigger as an investment. With the current russian politic an actual politic issue, there a small step to fall in a misused of a system.
I hope that jolla will be able to hold their politic and philosophy, and hold distance with any politic dynamic.
Hope that jolla will stay jolla and not a american, chinese or russian new entity.
That are just few words to explain my worries.
Thanks to the thread holder ti bring this theme here.

cemoi71 ( 2016-11-29 11:41:47 +0200 )edit

@Stefanix might be yes, or not. we can't tell so much things otherwise would be speculation. I think that's ok to speak about it and explain our worries, as long as it is still explained in form of worries.
And you have right, looking forward is still a good attitude. Not being eaten for current news...

cemoi71 ( 2016-11-29 11:45:54 +0200 )edit

One interesting article dated 19/05/2015


Asmir ( 2016-11-29 12:05:53 +0200 )edit

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answered 2016-11-29 11:47:37 +0200

atlochowski gravatar image

Official Jolla announcement http://jolla.com/wp-content/uploads/bsk-pdf-manager/Jolla_Slush2016_press_release_FINAL_79.pdf

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thanks for the source

cemoi71 ( 2016-11-29 12:33:16 +0200 )edit

answered 2016-11-29 11:52:31 +0200

Alex gravatar image

English article is out on Techcrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/29/jollas-sailfish-os-now-certified-as-russias-first-android-alternative/

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"and confirms there are currently no plans for Intex to do another Sailfish device — hence Jolla’s pivot of focus to b2b2b and b2b2g licensing partnerships."

atlochowski ( 2016-11-29 12:19:15 +0200 )edit

And "concedes there is no mass market for Sailfish" .

strongm ( 2016-11-29 14:41:42 +0200 )edit

You create a market Mr Saarnio. And yes it is going to be a hell of a job to make it massive. But you have a community of enthusiasts that will spread the word of the awesomeness of SFOS once we have something that showcases its awesomeness instead of half assed low spec HW. :/

ApB ( 2016-11-29 14:56:58 +0200 )edit

may i get different point of view? i don't know techcrunch (just by name). how serious they are normally?

cemoi71 ( 2016-11-29 16:39:56 +0200 )edit

answered 2016-11-29 13:04:49 +0200

tortoisedoc gravatar image

As long as the OS stays open (as open as possible), I do not see any issues.

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The funny thing however is the timing; I cant recall Jolla being actively present at slush this year?

tortoisedoc ( 2016-11-29 13:19:48 +0200 )edit

honestly this condition would require to be more open,almost all. not right now,but in time. otherwise it could start to be rightly souspicius. since now someone could say is it not (at least economically) independent anymore. it is not cause it is russia,it could be america or bangladesh would be the same for me.

itdoesntmatt ( 2016-11-29 15:45:10 +0200 )edit

@itdoesntmatt you are correct; but with money comes responsibility. I guess it'll depend how much the investor sees it fit to have an open system.

tortoisedoc ( 2016-11-29 15:49:41 +0200 )edit

sorry i beg to be more cautious with it. that told i find it a little bit naive (don't know exactly what you think). we may do things opensource, doesn't avoid that it could be misused (e.g. google) before the eyes of every one. that is clear that all people could then know what happened behind, but just if they are able to interpret the code. Just less than 1% of the human could do work of Source code understanding, and take time to do it, and the other should believe then or not. And do the best of it. For me opensource is no a guaranty of security. But that some one in the community may have more understanding on how it works, and where could be the leak. but cannot guaranty on how could some one bad could misuse it. Because this one may see the leak too for using it. We know that actually usa and russia are strongly politically engaged. Then no opensource may avoid a usage which is not correct with our understanding.

cemoi71 ( 2016-11-29 16:55:07 +0200 )edit

Has SFOS ever been "as open as possible"? I don't think so.

Federico ( 2016-11-29 21:02:15 +0200 )edit

answered 2016-11-29 18:16:54 +0200

tortoisedoc gravatar image

updated 2016-11-29 18:17:27 +0200

yeah ok, the juice is in the techcrunch article. Antti Saarnio is pretty straightforward with the details; and thats positive. lets see what the future holds!

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answered 2016-11-29 14:11:57 +0200

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Now its the time for jolla to release a global phone suitable for Russian spies. :P

I'll be OK if the civilian version omits features like launching poisonous needles through the earphone jack, secret storage for cyanide pills and other features like the above. (j/k) :D

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HAHAHA - funny ^^

tortoisedoc ( 2016-11-29 15:52:32 +0200 )edit

I have been working for years on my e-shock TOH. Finally I am going to see customers for it!

lakutalo ( 2016-11-29 16:38:28 +0200 )edit

pff you've seen to much james bond.
you should see more oss117 or bruce lee things. with mortal-cry sound maybe, or joke to die by laughing... could make the job too

cemoi71 ( 2016-11-29 17:00:51 +0200 )edit

i'm interested for an hypnosis toh, and an other one for universal car controling.

cemoi71 ( 2016-11-29 17:04:10 +0200 )edit

answered 2016-11-29 13:06:18 +0200

hm, still be a little incredulous...

a similar sounding news popped up some months ago. Of course it will be a huge push for the OS, but in general the future will show how much seating is lower the broadcast.


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answered 2016-11-29 21:58:11 +0200

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updated 2016-11-29 22:12:36 +0200

The only OS used in...well, good luck with that :D Sounds unlikely the next 10 years...

Wouldn't mind trying the hardware that shall replace all the highend androids/iPhones. When will that come...

I believe it when I see Putin with a jolla C

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are you mad??? he will just accept 100% russian!!!!

cemoi71 ( 2016-11-29 23:09:05 +0200 )edit

Upvoted for the immense irony!

tortoisedoc ( 2016-11-29 23:52:36 +0200 )edit

A Jolla CCCP, you mean?

Federico ( 2016-11-30 00:41:16 +0200 )edit

Putin is not using any cell phones! See here Would be a good thing to follow for any leader in the world (as long as they aren't controlled by US anyway)

Vieno ( 2016-11-30 12:27:08 +0200 )edit

LoL I simply don't believe that.

Dave999 ( 2016-11-30 12:40:29 +0200 )edit
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