Suggestion: Change term "push" to "swipe" in developer environment. [answered]

asked 2014-01-16 09:03:07 +0300

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(I'm a bit unsure if this is the right place for this suggestion, but I guess here is better than nowhere. ;-)

In the Jolla User Guide, the gestures swipe, pull, tap and flick are described, but I've noticed that those developing for SailfishOS uses the term "push" instead of "swipe".

I have as of yet not done any developing myself, but being curious, I installed the SailFishOS SDK, and then found the explanation:
On the page Using SailfishOS Apps, "swipes" are called "pushes".

To avoid further confusion, I suggest that the same term is used in both user and developer environments (or that developers, some place in the developer environment, are made aware of that there are two terms used for the same gesture, and a note on which one of them that are used/prefered in the user environment).

(Also, it's a bit unclear whether "SailfishOS" or "Sailfish OS" (with a space) is prefered, but that's a different question. ;-) )

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Good guestion, but the suggestion is not right ;) The swipes in UI should be called pushes (when they refer to (edge-swioes). The problem is the term 'swipe', which is used everywhere, inconsistently, and even the whole UX is sometimes called swipe-UI. I agree that the use of terms when naming the UI-elements (screens, gestutes, conponents, etc) should be consistent; see e.g. this How-to type if question: https://together.jolla.com/question/5465/how-to-name-jolla-ui-screens-gestures-and-components/

foss4ever ( 2014-01-16 10:49:51 +0300 )edit

The OS in Jolla is called ”Sailfish OS”, but some tend to write it SailfishOS (seen it used as Twitter-hashtag quite often.).

foss4ever ( 2014-01-16 10:53:52 +0300 )edit

Thank you, @jjaone - I was looking for the "How to name Jolla UI screens, gestures and components?" post, but was too lazy to do further searching when I wrote the original post.

It really doesn't matter what terms we use, as long as they are consistent, considering that the average user may not even know that the User Guide exists. :-)

(re "SailfishOS / Sailfish OS": see the title of the third link ;-) )

phle ( 2014-01-16 13:31:17 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-01-16 12:47:24 +0300

lbt

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http://www.merproject.org...

In the ridiculous world we live in it seems that ordinary dictionary words are subject to claims of 'ownership' and this coloured our use of terminology :) Common sense prevailed and we now simply talk about "what you do" - in this case we originally used use push/pull and we decided that swipe/pull was better.

When we wrote the user guide we finalised the terminology and did our best to be consistent - please comment on https://together.jolla.com/question/13280/whats-missing-in-the-user-guide/ if we made errors in there.

As of today the user guide is the most correct/consistent use of terminology.

We are aware that lots of other content is still not up-to-date and we will fix it as part of the normal refreshing of content.

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@lbt - Thank you for your answer!

I considered commenting with the above question, on the question you linked, but due to it mainly being a developer related question, I figured it was better to post it as a separate question.
I'll add something short about it on the "things missing in the User Guide" (the page you linked), when I get home from work. :-)

phle ( 2014-01-16 13:44:28 +0300 )edit

The key point here being 'as long as the terminology is consistent'. For this, a simple vocabulary or index in the guide would be a good idea. I'll post a relevant entry to that guide question..

foss4ever ( 2014-01-16 19:41:54 +0300 )edit

Hm. Found a forgotten "push" in Ambience management:

Gallery → Ambience → select any not-yet-favourited-Ambience

Set ambience as favourite, accessible with push gesture from Home and Lock Screen

The "push" mentioned should be "swipe".

(Noticed it while commenting over at [https://together.jolla.com/question/34409/too-many-ambiences/?comment=35085#comment-35085].
(yeah, there's a spelling mistake in my comment over there as well, but ... ))

phle ( 2014-03-22 09:08:19 +0300 )edit

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