Jolla + Sony Xperia Q&A

1) The slides stated that SFOS will be supported on a range of devices. Will those devices be available from the jolla store or a user can buy (from any ventor) and then install SFOS on one.?

2) Will sony give jolla access to the SW that powers its really good cameras so SFOS can fully exploit them?

3) Can we have a compact X on the store tomorrow :P

PS. I am so excited about this :D :D

Mee too...almost nose-bleeding like hyped... posting here for later reads hope we will get here more details.

4) will it support Android as previous "official" devices?

@pemek that would be a must...alien-dalvik is unfortunately too much needed on everyday basis.

1.) Will the Dual Sim models be supported if the single sim devices are going to receive SFOS?

2.) When can we expect the first Xperias with SFOS?

1) Will the devices be pure SFOS, or will they be dual boot?

2) If pure SFOS, will there be a way to install Android instead?

Looking at it, Jolla and Sony will not sell the Xperia phones with SFOS, but Jolla will make an official image that Sony will allow to put on Xperia device

Related to @ApB's first question -

I imagine it will be an official port of SFOS onto an Xperia already running Android. If this is the case, will there be a clear, step-by-step process to help those Jolla fans who don't have great tech knowledge (i.e. someone like me)?

Is it limited to the Xperia X? Or are further models due to be supported?

To what extent are Sony involved? Are they simply allowing their hardware to be ported onto, or are they looking at becoming an official partner? In essence, in the future, could we buy a Sony device running SFOS?

Can I buy an Xperia X series of my choice and have eventually the capability to have full SFOS experience (exchange, alien dalvik, jolla store, etc) on it?

Will the Xperia devices hardware support be provided by Sony, by Jolla or both?

I mean mainly in EU but would be nice to have an answer about other regions as well

"To what extent are Sony involved?" to me is clear from the press release that Sony is a partner and there will be Xperia X devices sold wit SFOS loaded. Maybe I'm wrong

I think you may be right, at least that's what I've read reported on a couple of tech sites, but it'd be nice to have that confirmed.

Please Jolla give us support for the X Compact with Alien-Dalvik and EAS and access to the Sony bits of the device like native camera drivers (CM always struggled in camera support on Sony devices)

1) Didn't get the question. Sailfish OS supports both single and dual sim

2) Jolla already gave the answer for that: by the end of Q2/2017

PDF of today Jolla's press releases: https://together.jolla.com/question/157572/mwc17-xperia-x-jalasoft-and-inoi-r7/?answer=157602#post-id-157602

@ Sthocs: If the dual sim slot needs different drivers there is additional work to do to support those models.

Thanks for answering question 2. :-)

1: Is there on the Sony Experia Android-support within Sailfish?
2: Is the hardware fully supported, as in no surprises as a camera that doesn't work?

In the EU the device manufacturer is providing hardware support. Might be necessary to flash android during HW checking as there will probably be no SFOS capable shop be at reach.

Plain X is announced, others to follow. (I know you cannot wait for it, me neither!) Hardware differs in screen size eg display and drivers for that so basically yes but might need a hand with additional drivers.

Will there be full support by Jolla/for SFOS for the Xperia X compact as well?

Ah, didn't see the third item of your list before posting my answer with question for Xperia X compact support. Sorry.

Very intressting indeed. When Will this happen. Is jolla/Sony responsible or Will this be another LOLware were none takes responsibility for the customers?

Are you aiming for daily use here a playground for devs with plenty of bugs?

Is Sony really involved or do jolla only utalize the device program?

Anywayz gr8 news!

How does Jolla benefit from offering an image that can be flashed on Xperia devices ? Meaning, how does this ensure/strengthen Jolla's financial situation ?

Does the cooperation include Xperia tablets ?

alright, but my point is mainly focused on: can I buy a plain X and be able in the future to install SFOS on it or that will not be possible and the only way to have the full SFOS will be to buy the X model shipped with SFOS installed?

Just to remind you. This is your second message without "refund" word.

USB Type-C and a smaller form factor makes Xperia X Compact more attractive than the Xperia X to me.

Well maybe Sony wants some backup to Android - just in case - like Tizen for Samsung or Ubuntu for BQ and Meizu - and is spending some money for that - but all wild guess of course ...

I want to know this too ... I REALLY, really want a Sailfish OS tablet ... but looking at the specs, the Sony Xperia Z4 tablet is 64 bit. So we may need to wait till Sailfish OS is ported to 64 bit platform. The Z2 and Z3 use 32bit CPU's though ... keeping my fingers crossed!

Will the Sony Xperia X running SailfishOS support Alien Dalvik?

@chemist thanks for the info, that seems promising

When I understood it correctly, Xperia X device should replace Jolla C which was only availiable for a few people. I'd like to know if (and when) a device with fully supported SFOS will be availiable for anyone (especially in Germany). Community device program was closed so fast for Jolla C, its a nightmare so please make it availiable!

From the press release - "Jolla Ltd., the developer of open operating system, Sailfish OS, today announced support for Sony’s Open Devices Program, to provide a leading hardware platform for Sailfish OS licensing customers and the Sailfish community." - Jolla adds support for Sailfish OS on Sony Mobile’s Xperia devices.

My understanding is that the upcoming SFOS 2.1 (currently in EA) will be 64 bit capable.

I wonder if we could buy a license key in the Jolla store that would allow to flash a stock Xperia with SFOS and Jolla apps store access. Just a guess.

@hubat - Does that apply to the tablet version of Sailfish OS too?

@hubat - That would be really awesome, and something I have been demanding for a long time - I want to be the direct owner (well technically a licensee) of the OS on my mobile.

Despite the cynical tone of the poster, I am surprised at the number of downvotes for this post. He / she asks some valid questions and none of us needs to be such a brand fanatic to Jolla that we get upset by the posters cynicism ... we need to be supportive here to everyone, regardless of their temporary feelings towards Jolla ... and we also need to keep Jolla on their toes to not take us for granted, so that they continue to strive hard and excel ...

Agree, but dont mind the fanboys. Given the amount of questions here it would be great if jolla could address them and or add some clerifications on their blog. Maybe a QandA?!?

One more question:

Can the community do something to help with this??

"If you want the official version, you'll still have to wait though. Jolla says it won't be out until late spring/early summer."

https://www.engadget.com/2017/02/27/jolla-sailfish-sony-xperia-phones/

Yes yes yes for this one. Remember: https://together.jolla.com/question/135573/sfos-needs-smaller-phones/

@sifartech

People are not negative or cynic, just want real things not only announces, many people want to buy now a xperia x, but we need some more info like "how and when?".

Anyway, great news for us... thanks to all involved.

I can't believe Sony is doing this ... one argument to buy Sony device, which I avoided in the past.

I hope this year :)

I have Xperia M5, so hoping to get that device on the SFOS list.

Type-C and smaller is always a good thing!

@sifartech: there is no 'tablet version' of Sailfish, it just adapts the layout a bit depending on the screen size/resolution. I think this is the case for all mobile operating systems, though.

Not sure if relevant, but xperia x seems to have a different hw piece for dual sim than intel aquafish. In Xperia one need to choose between 2nd SIM or sd card (they use the same slot), while Aquafish has altogether 3 slots: 2 SIM+ 1 SD

The press release says

the first project is a Sailfish OS powered Xperia X, which is on show at Jolla’s stand at Mobile World Congress 2017 (stand 5H19)

According to the Wikipedia article for the Sony Xperia X there are two different Variants, the F5121 with single SIM and 32GB and the F5122 with 64GB and dual SIM (but I asume one can use either dual SIM or one SIM and SD)

is this "first project" about

a) the F5121

b) the F5122

c) both, the F5121 and the F5122

...maybe someone at MWC is able to check what Jolla is showing on the stand?

Does anybody know, if the Xperia X series is designed "waterproof"? I couldn't find anything about that. If not, maybe I'd rather be more curious to have support for the Xperia Z5 Compact with SFOS...