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Jabber Conversation, battery draining ?

asked 2017-03-08 22:15:40 +0300

mbpilotuser gravatar image

updated 2017-03-09 23:36:27 +0300

Hi at all! I have issue with battery draining and Data volume consumption at my Jolla C.

It seams to me the reason is the android app conversation. If I stop the android, I have no issues at all. If I start conversation again, the data volume ist at 50 Mb in 2 hours.

Today day my doughter with her Jolla 1 told me the same. Anyone else with the same issue here? Both devices ar at 2.1.0.9 and have the conversation version 1.16.2 from the F-droid store. Is there a possibility to check which app it is, like at a adroid device?

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mbpilotuser!

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I'm sorry, but I can't say something about that Conversations, because I'm only using the built-in XMPP, which still lacks encryption, audio and video-chat, file-transfes...but we have a useless front-camera :p
Idea for testing: Does the behaviour change, if you use another XMPP-Server?
https://gultsch.de/xmpp_2016.html // paragraph about battery drain

hoschi ( 2017-03-09 11:33:18 +0300 )edit
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Adding to @hoschi's comment, you could go to manage accounts, select account and from three dots enable "server info" which will then show XEPs that Conversations and your server support and combining them with that link you can figure out if Conversations or your XMPP server is guilty.

If you want a server recommendation, I am using Disroot.org on my Jolla and haven't noticed battery draining. It's only missing XEPs blocking command, MAM (privacy, they don't want to store messages) and push (would require registration with Google/Apple and the F-Droid version most likely has that stripped out anyway).

Mikaela ( 2017-03-09 16:43:35 +0300 )edit

Hi, I'm using Conversations on a daily basis and haven't noticed such issues. You should definitely check whether your server supports CSI (client state indication), as described in the comment above. With CSI the server doesn't send updates about who is online and the like, if the app is not in foreground. This saves data volume and battery. However, even without CSI the behaviour you described is strange. So maybe there is a bug (probably) with the server. Have you tried a different server, e.g., conversations.im?

Mario ( 2017-03-09 22:16:54 +0300 )edit

Hi, my provider (mailbox.org) supports CSI. I added a screenshot, when i close conversation, all is normal again. 200 kb in 1 minute is too high.

Ok, I tested it with account of my wife (also mailbox.org) and had no issues. I will ask Mailbox.org to reset my xmpp profile.

mbpilotuser ( 2017-03-10 00:09:35 +0300 )edit

Did it work?

Mario ( 2017-03-11 14:37:58 +0300 )edit

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answered 2017-03-10 02:11:08 +0300

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updated 2017-03-10 02:12:20 +0300

Xmpp is known to drain the battery since 2013, some releases more some less, some servers more or less (depending on configuration) - jabber isn't really designed for mobile devices. Especially if you use an android app for it and rely on its power management. Built-in xmpp (Settings-Accounts) might show better results with less functionality.

EDIt: groups eg chatrooms might have a higher impact than just idling

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Sorry, but this is simply not true. Especially, you can't compare jabber from 2013 with an up-to-date setup (client and server), today. A really good essay what changed in jabber that also sorts out some common myths can be found here: https://gultsch.de/xmpp_2016.html (Note the section about battery consumption.)

Mario ( 2017-03-11 14:33:37 +0300 )edit

You should read the whole thing I guess, instead of just pointing out that "you are wrong!" - I know that much changed but one thing, people actually reading stuff till the end... I spare you with an explanation...

chemist ( 2017-03-16 00:50:03 +0300 )edit
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