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(Edited) How to overcome what I see is an inherent limitation of this Q&A format? As a newbie I don't see what's the proper way out of what I see is a gridlock situation a question of mine got into here. [subjective]

asked 2017-06-07 12:46:51 +0300

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updated 2017-06-08 12:04:04 +0300

Edit: Title edited for niceness. But maybe this way it does not really represents what I wanted to say. I'm not an English speaker. I'm a little bit frustrated with this platform. Nothing personal, you are nice people. Just the platform itself. OK?

Here's what happened: I asked a question (https://together.jolla.com/question/162367/please-help-me-understand-sailfish-os-community-ports-in-terms-of-stability-officialness-security-updates-not-as-clear-as-lineageos/). One person wrote an answer. Another person checked the answer as best answer. So why would others from now on bother to give their answers, when the best answer was already selected? It sounds reasonable. Albeit the answer wasn't selected by me, who asked the question.

Although the one answer given is nice (basically saying just relax, the situation is getting better sooner or later, we are working on it), my exact questions there are still unresolved. Let's say I want to deploy (is the right word) Sailfish OS on my device today and I inquire about the security situation of the ports. I thought it's an important enough question, maybe not I am the only person interested in it. Hopefully.

I possibly made a mistake when I accidentally checked the community wiki box under my question, although I immediately reported my error under my question as a comment. (No direct link, because of Askbot does not give direct links to comments, why would it? That would just be too much good, right? So sorry, no links to comments.) I was said, sorry this will remain like this, we can't turn it back.

Basically I'm still looking for the same answers I raised there; how shall I proceed? Should I ask every 5 of my sub-questions as separate questions? I re-counted them: my main question over there consists of exactly 5 sub-questions or topics. Should we delete my original question with help of a moderator (then wasting the one nice answer already there), then should I ask more or less the same thing again, just making sure not to press on mistakenly the community wiki box again?

By the way, the Askbot you are running is at version 0.7.49. This is what you get when you run your community of your startup company otherwise aiming for a better future on beta software. Just saying. :) (It's a nice feature, btw. that I do not even get a space - not even a space character with Askbot - between bullet point numbers 3., 4. and the following first letters of the next sentences.)

Were I asked the above big question with 5 sub-questions on a classic forum, I could simply check back with which of the sub-questions I already receive an answer for, to which ones I possibly wished for more clarification. Easy as that. How can users of your software sure about security, if even asking about basic security is so darn difficult here? Security is important. It should be important.

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The question has been closed for the following reason "too subjective and argumentative" by nthn
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As long as a question is not closed, people can still add new answers and even change which answer is marked as 'correct', or remove the checkmark if the answer is not actually 'correct'. I don't see the problem here, though: you received an answer to all of your questions, and the answer was, in fact, correct.

Edit: nevermind, I missed the part where you said your questions are unresolved. Still, you can just comment on your previous question, or update it to more precisely specify what information you're looking for.

nthn ( 2017-06-07 13:13:51 +0300 )edit
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You are right that together.jolla.com is not good format.It should be traditional forum like with subforums for Hardware issues, Requests, Bugs in software, Bugs in Jolla apps like Mediaplayer etc. It would be much clearer then!

alloj ( 2017-06-07 14:35:43 +0300 )edit
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Actually what I think we need the most is a Bugzilla (or even some other real bug tracking tool) to track bugs in all Sailfish OS components. Askbot is really bad substitute for this and it shows & is the main reason why together is so messy.

Also we already have a forum - it's called talk.maemo.org and has a Sailfish OS section.

MartinK ( 2017-06-07 16:15:39 +0300 )edit
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Tracking mess of threads in tons of subforums is a heavy task when you have no free hands for such work.

coderus ( 2017-06-07 18:38:34 +0300 )edit
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I love how a person bowls into the forum, saying things need to change - well, you're not wrong, there are lost of things that could and should improve and those that know that, no longer complain, yet, here you are ONCE AGAIN, moaning about something that literally does not concern you...and why doesn't it concern you?, because you have already admitted you do not even own a Sailfish based device, so , why are you here?, why are we hearing from you again?

Edz ( 2017-06-07 22:53:39 +0300 )edit

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answered 2017-06-08 12:46:30 +0300

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updated 2017-06-08 12:50:49 +0300

Only partial answer to:

I possibly made a mistake when I accidentally checked the community wiki box under my question, although I immediately reported my error under my question as a comment. (No direct link, because of Askbot does not give direct links to comments, why would it? That would just be too much good, right? So sorry, no links to comments.) I was said, sorry this will remain like this, we can't turn it back.

This is systematic in AskBot and amongst other reasons done to prevent Karma fishing users from claiming the upvotes done by other users that explicetly wanted to upvote because the question was marked as Community question and would not have done so if the upvote would have raised the OPs karma. Community Wiki questions regulary get much more upvotes than personal questions, especially when they describe a generally important but not OP specific topic.

Same effect for downvotes, many users tend to downvote much more on community wikis to express an opinion which they would not have done if it was bound to a users karma.

So once a question is converted to wiki, the rules have changed and contributions done while being in wiki state should not be associated with the OP anymore, not only for karma reasons.

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