Purism Librem 5 phone [off-topic]
Purism is running a kickstarter for a free privacy-oriented smartphone running Linux. The cost for a crowdfunded device (to be delivered in 2019, assuming they don't pull a Jolla tablet) is $599 + shipping and customs from US.
How does the presence of this new competitor impact Jolla? Do you think it will take users away from the Sailfish/Jolla platform? Do you yourself plan to back the project?
None of my Colleges and friends cares about privacy and or has problems with Google or Facebook So this market is so small. So to anwer your question: Nö and no
pawel ( 2017-08-24 19:43:41 +0200 )editI think the only reasonable comment for now is this: SailfishOS does exist. Librem does not (yet). So, wait and (perhaps) see.
objectifnul ( 2017-08-24 19:47:41 +0200 )editLibrem is open for ideas and operating systems. If Jolla wants to expand SailfishOS coverage opening up the last bits of Silica could be very interesting for cooperation. Otherwise I am sure Plasma Mobile will be considered. I doubt puri.sm is capable of pulling it off with a gnome mobile edition
leszek ( 2017-08-24 23:03:04 +0200 )editAs much as I'd like to believe it, I just don't think you could slap Debian onto a phone and call it a day. Hardware killswitches seem like a clever idea though.
pisarz1958 ( 2017-08-25 03:29:45 +0200 )editPlasma mobile is a great idea, but I have the impression they have no operating concept. In the videos on youtube it looks like they just shrunk some desktop applications und moved some buttons around. That is nothing I would want to use, even Mer/Nemo has a better UI.
inta ( 2017-08-25 10:50:19 +0200 )edit@inta they have the Kirigami UI as prefered UI for Plasma Mobile. Though they are open for other UI concepts and allow even Ubuntu Touch Apps to run. They would even allow SailfishOS Apps to run if they were allowed to use the Silica components (so if they were under a free software license). Kirigami is used by several applications already (Linus Torvalds diving app for example) and is meant to run as UI on many platforms. They reached version 2.0 of Kirigami at the beginning of this year: https://dot.kde.org/2017/01/12/kde-releases-kirigami-ui-20
leszek ( 2017-08-25 10:59:04 +0200 )editLooks better as what I saw, though I did not see a concept for a launcher or events, notifications.
inta ( 2017-08-25 11:09:35 +0200 )edit@leszek kirigami looks cool actually, someone should build it for use in sailfish os.
r0kk3rz ( 2017-08-25 11:42:49 +0200 )edit@r0kk3rz it needs Qt 5.7
leszek ( 2017-08-25 11:46:25 +0200 )editI think the potential is not that high. I really like the idea of having a true Linux on my mobile but this seems like giant task to accomplish. Ubuntu tried it and failed. I still have the Ubuntu Tablet - the idea and navigation is really good and sometimes innovative but the performance is pretty bad and A LOT of bugs everywhere around. I am really patient with software development but they could get there system running. At the end unfortunately apps like whatsapp & co are essential to be successful. It is simple you need to use messangers your friends are using. To convince them to use Telegram etc. is pretty hard!
The pictures of Purism are not that promising. Looks really there pushed the desktop version into the smartphone :) Looks like gnome on a phone...
It would be a great idea to use ubuntu touch for further development and add android support! Without those famous apps like whatsapp this phone is only for die hard linux/opensource fans.
Imothep ( 2017-08-25 22:51:00 +0200 )edit