User reports - Sailfish X

answered 2017-10-11 21:05:58 +0300

Dietmar
618 ●13 ●21 ●20

updated 2017-10-11 22:07:25 +0300

For unlocking the Sony bootloader, the installation instructions just refer to the Sony instructions. These state that installing the SDK is sufficient for unlocking, but unfortunately they will only tell you how to do so for the full multi-GB installation of Android Studio. I would have expected step-by-step instructions from Jolla for unlocking.

So, to answer "How much time is needed to flash the phone?": very much including preparations; the flashing itself is around a minute

answered 2017-10-12 18:02:19 +0300

MystIsland
1061 ●14 ●20 ●22

updated 2017-10-12 18:04:55 +0300

My two cents after one day of usage... I did a backup on my Jolla1 and moved it on the SD card to the Xperia and restored from that.

First the negative stuff:

• The driver-stuff related to the flashing and the instructions were not totally clear. When I finally got to run the flashing script itself, it was fast and straight-forward.
• Lot of digital noise on headphone output (might depend on headphone impedance) during audio playback
• All MMS photos are missing: the messages' texts are present but the photos are not there (more of an issue of the backup/restore-functionality than the phone)
• Swiping from the edges seems to be touchier than on Jolla1, I have needed to repeat the swipe-from right couple of times
• As mentioned in the release notes: "Issues with video playback and video recording", ie. low framerate (YouTube works ok-ish in browser, YTPlayer is worse)
• So far all my phone calls have ended with three-tone-error-beep and a network error (didn't make note of the error) after ending the call

When I restart the phone, it shows a message about the phone being unlocked and cannot be trusted. Is this going to show on every boot? Also the white-background Sony logo, which feels like full-brightness is an eye-killer if you do it at night!

The good stuff:

• The display is gorgeus!

• Haven't done any serious testing on the camera yet, but it feels so much better after having used Jolla1... Here are two snaps I took today (camera on 4:3 (13 Mpx) setting): https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nlf694pz17a81h2/AAA2Fd9NsUX31FHHGmfTYczna?dl=0 All I have done to these was to remove the GPS information, no other editing.

• UI feels smooth and responsive, also browser works much faster
• Battery life feels better than my Jolla1's (that had a replaced battery), not bad for a first release and hopefully it will get more optimized in the future.

So far so good. I am still installing all my previous apps and probably some will have bugs, but so far nothing game-stopping.

answered 2017-10-13 15:09:30 +0300

MariusP
401 ●6 ●11 ●15

updated 2017-10-13 15:16:15 +0300

The overall performance is good (better than on JollaC), although AIDA 64 shows only the first 4 cores running.

Bluetooth is working the same as on JollaC (successfully paired with JollaC, and with JBL headphones - for music, and calling; the answer/hang up from headphones button works, volume buttons also work).

Camera resolutions with default settings: main: 5312 × 2988 pixels = 16 MP frontal: 3120 × 4160 pixels = 14 MP Sample photos can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bradoth2nr67llc/AABO_oUzyMb2o4ZTT36UERKTa?dl=0

answered 2017-10-13 17:38:08 +0300

XFish
661 ●16 ●26 ●31

updated 2017-10-20 05:39:50 +0300

My Experience so Far, some of it might be SFOS limitations some Sailfish X bugs hard to say:

1. The GOOD very responsive, delays existing in Aquafish UI elliminated, no more waiting for anything!
   
2. Seems to find networks better, has better reception then the aquafish with same SIM same location same mobile provider;
   
3. No issues with making call experienced, no weird noises etc;
   
4. Was able to bump root to 5GB using telnet shell!
   
5. Gorgeous Sailfish X website and the jolla Shop worked flawlessly on mobile and desktop;
   
   
6. The BAD, APN settings VPN settings are not restored when restoring from SFOS backup!
   
7. VPN on Sailfish X seems to have issues automatically reconnecting, when restarting network layer it simoly stays off;
   
8. Had to use command line to get double tap screen to wakeup, APN settings to save after reboot;
   
9. When trying to restore Storeman backup, no repositories restored that i had previously backed up on my Aquafish :-/ ;
   
10. When selecting save photos, screenshots on external memory card it actually still saves them in Pictures NEMO folder not on the external Memory Card;
    
11. Even though i selected text large in settings email text is tiny weeny in EMAIL app:
    
12. In email app when opening an email and selecting Display Image (otherwise its blank) and then trying to select any textual hyperlinks is difficult. Often i have to press a link about 4 times before it detects it so the webview hyperlinks srent easily recognized for click input somehow;
    
13. GPS i havent gotten to work in any mode (SFOS apps);
    
14. Bluetooth to Kinovo device, (pairing does not show Kinovo bluetooth receiver when the receiver is set to pairing mode);
    
15. WIFI to Mobile Data handoff issues with SFOS VPN active, still need to perform network layer restart every time leaving a WIFI network and when mobile data 4G network is slow, it will not connect otherwise flush, reset and restart 4G and VPN connection;
    
16. Utilities Refresh Media Database function does not work, user popup messages saying failed, when manually tracker daemon start, stop command through terminal and reset command it works.
    
17. Going back to the SFOS VPN functionality under poor 3G mobile connectivity VPN is essentially useless and cant connect reliably, when i turn it off the phone connects judt fine with 46dB wireless 3G signal (about half of a strong network signal);

To be continued......

answered 2017-10-13 20:45:29 +0300

MaxT
506 ●11 ●18 ●25

updated 2017-10-16 23:16:48 +0300

The performace of Xperia X with Sailfish OS is really good. Flashing was quite tricky (installing windows drivers, Android SDK), but now the phone is working like a charme. I am very happy to have a SailfishOS phone back. My Jolla C battery broke and I had to use Android for three months.

answered 2017-10-13 22:05:11 +0300

tmy
1853 ●27 ●36 ●39

updated 2017-10-31 18:31:35 +0300

1. Flashing process took me a few hours, including all the downloads (android sdk, images, emma tool, drivers), which is a lot more than I anticipated. The instructions provided by Jolla and Sony were not very good. At the end I hadn't even used the infamous Emma tool, so not sure if I did everything right...

2. The camera. So far I have only taken few photos indoors. Didn't get a wow effect so far (comparing with Jolla 1 camera). Have to experiment a bit more...

3. Battery life seems pretty good. Today I have used it quite heavily: 60 minutes driving with Waze (screen on), occasional use during work, and hardly left my hands after I got home :) 35% of battery left now (at 21:55).

4. Performance is amazing! I can actually have multiple Android apps, the browser and a lot of native apps on all at once without out of memory incidents. The browser loads pages quick enough (with Jolla 1 it was abysmally slow). Scrolling some pages with the browser seems a bit stuttering sometimes.

5. Apps are working well. All the apps I had in Jolla 1 have been installed successfully, with the exception of Meerun, which seems to install but does not start.

6. Some features are still missing, such as compass and wifi hotspot. It would be nice to know their roadmap.

Overall I'm very pleased with the phone!

EDIT (2.1.3.7): The camera focus seems to be greatly improved.

answered 2017-10-13 22:31:08 +0300

olli
128 ●2 ●6 ●9

updated 2017-10-13 22:55:43 +0300

i have been wery pleased. It's like Jolla C but with some serious horsepower under the hood. Hopefully Jolla will continue the good work with Sailfish X and we see many improvements with coming updates. This is the right direction (or course if you will)

edit: Some whiskey and only answered 1 of 4 guestions.

So bluetooth is working good enough for me. I managed to connect pebble and it works with rockpool as good as with Jolla C. Have been reading about problems with connecting with cars though :(

Flashing was not so easy, mainly the unlocking part for me. Took me about 3h, I bet I could do it under 30min now, but now I don't need to anymore :) So better/simpler instructions would be great. Allso I thinkFlashing with Linux would have been way easier, even if I am not a heavy user.

Pictures are way better than on Jolla C and sadly way worse than on Xperia X with android :( It's understandable though, I don't know how many man hours Sony, Samsung etc. have used on camera software but it's definately more than Jolla can throw at it.

answered 2017-10-14 00:04:57 +0300

kultsinuppeli
491 ●6 ●10 ●11

updated 2017-10-15 14:57:36 +0300

I jumped to SailfishX directly from Jolla1, and wow, is there ever a difference.

Bear in mind this is based on 24 hours of use.

The speed and snappiness compared to Jolla 1 is amazing. I haven't tried bluetooth yet. Battery life seems good (100% -> 80% with some amount of use, spotify, browsing, whatsapp etc.) The screen is awesome. As most people, a backup -> restore brought in most of the things.

So far I'm all smiles about it.

The update process was longer and more convoluted than I thought. That's mostly due to the Sony part though. After you wade through the Sony phone unlock, its running one script, and that's it.

Edit: Tried to pair the phone with bluetooth speakers and my Honda. Both worked nicely and I didn't encounter any issues.

answered 2017-10-14 17:36:31 +0300

woodenmo
231 ●4 ●6 ●8

I am quite satisfied with the official SailfishX on my Xperia. I flashed it with the official build after it had run my own. The procedure was quick and took only a few minutes. I did not face any errors.

• Native apps work very well, perhaps with an exception of the e-mail app. The rendering of messages is weird, font is very small in HTML messages, so that I have to magnify every single message when reading. I would appreciate a double tap to magnify to the screen size. When returning to the message list, it takes a lot of time.
• Bluetooth works in some way. Initiating a file transfer by Xperia to another device works, it does not the other way around, at least with that device I tested, the transfer gets interrupted.
• Import of contacts from a file went ok.
• E-mail and CalDav accounts are working fine, I have none other.
• Android runtime seems also fine, I am actually surprised how well those few apps run. I could not find a way to enable LED/sound notifications for Android apps, though, and installed android-chatmail-notification from OpenRepos, working afterwards.
• I have just inserted a SIM card, cellular network works (4G), still have to test voice.
• I still have to see how the battery life goes but was quite good with the community build.
• File system layout and sizes puzzle me, the root file system has just 880M free right now (of 2.4G). That seems too little to me. /fimage is 100% full but this is probably harmless.
• sdcard 64G is working.
• ssu status reads "device not registered". The device is recorded in my Jolla account together with my Jolla 1, I probably miss something then.
• Double tap screen wakeup works after a tweak.
• The Jolla store works fine for native apps. Apart from a market app, no Android apps are visible in there from my device.
• I find the device's display brilliant, indeed, and pleasure to read on.
• I added Coderus' power save app to activate auto power saving mode.

Thank you folks for your valuable questions and answers at TJC. Cheers!

answered 2017-10-14 18:24:40 +0300

pasik
1292 ●33 ●46 ●47

Camera picture quality is far away from original Sony camera app. Color quality is good but photos are mostly blurred. Quality like Jolla C/Aquafish at the moment.