User reports - Sailfish X

answered 2017-10-17 15:30:53 +0300

Freddo
143 ●4 ●7 ●11

updated 2017-10-17 15:34:30 +0300

Sailfish X is my first experience with Sailfish, and I'm very pleased. The performance is great compared to the N9 I've used until now, which isn't really that surprising since the N9 is 6 years old.

No issues with bluetooth, I could connect it to my Streamer Pro just fine (which in turn send audio to my hearing aids).

Flashing the phone took quite a bit longer than I expected. Maybe 3 hours?

I'm very content with the camera, a noticeable step up from the N9!

My only complaint, really, is that the Android version of HERE WeGo won't work on it. Also didn't like any of the music players available for Jolla, so I'm using the Android version of foobar2000 mobile.

Oh yeah, I also had to format my new 128GB microSDXC card to FAT32 to get it to work. Neither the default exFAT or ext3 would work.

answered 2017-10-17 16:59:52 +0300

elaurin
71 ●1 ●1 ●3

So far Sailfish X has been great! This is my first foray into Sailfish, coming from Android and BB10 before that. I love the smooth UI. Android apps work really well (better than they did on BB10). Startup boot is amazingly fast. The performance, in general is fantastic. It feels fast and fluid, more so than Android.

Flashing could have taken as little as 30 mins. It took me about an hour, but I missed two steps and had to repeat a few things. The dual instructions between Sony and Jolla get a little confusing. Overall, flashing was no harder than rooting Android and flashing custom ROM’s, but I think it would be too difficult for an average user, who is not comfortable with command line. The current setup process would probably deter every day users looking for a pick-up-and-go phone. I think that same crowd would otherwise really like Sailfish X.

Bluetooth works great. It is a bit slow to detect nearby devices (20-30 seconds – I’m impatient), but it pairs without a problem. There is an occasional hiccup (gap in playback) when playing music over Bluetooth to one of my devices, which gets annoying after a while. I haven’t determined if it’s the particular speaker/radio or the phone.

The camera works well. I love the easy access to manual controls! Fantastic! I haven’t used it much yet, but it felt fast and responsive. The Sony camera is really good (my experience from Android), so I’m expecting pictures from the Sailfish X will turn out really well.

So far my only issues are with the Media tracker (won’t detect all artist id3 tags) and MMS settings (resets every time the phone is turned off). It looks like there are solutions, but they require going into developer mode. That’s on my to-do list, but a few GUI settings or permanent fixes would be preferable. Despite these, everything does work.

Overall, I’m very happy with the switch to Jolla. Great job!

answered 2017-10-17 18:25:19 +0300

lumen
2991 ●39 ●52 ●59

updated 2017-10-18 18:08:46 +0300

I'll need to to say a few things about the camera. I remember reading from Jollas pages that the paid version of the camera software will be more advanced. Well, for now, it is not the case...

I used the Android version of the Xperia X for about 3 months and now comparing to Sailfish experience about the same device.

• Sharpness Somewhat there, but you need to have luck that the camera focuses correctly. It's not so sharp as Android version either. I read somewhere that Sailfish camera is not exploiting full resolution of the sensor. Here are my findings: Android - 3366x5984 px = 20Mpx, contrasty sharp pictures and video with quite good colour reproduction Sailfish - 2988x5312 px = ~16Mpx, less contrast, often blurry pictures and video, inconsistent colour results

• Focusing Errr.. what focusing... I wouldn't like to use word horrible, but I can't come up with something better either. Camera seems to focus erratically "just somewhere". Focusing into any darker areas is a no go. You can't focus to something well-lit either if there are even brighter objects anywhere in the scene, because i.e. a face becomes dark if there is sky somewhere behind. You can forget also macro photos which worked very well with Android version. Tapping on screen to focus doesn't yield good results. Eventhough I've tried it few times, it seems that I get blurry results anyway. If someone has better results with focusing, let me know.

• Colours A mixture of daylight and luminaires makes this camera go hay-wire. You get weird results of greenish and yellowish tones where you don't expect them. Android version controlled them well. When in even lighting conditions, it gives you decent results, I think. Atleast better than that Jolla 1 did.

• General usage of camera Oh.. sorry I haven't had time to see if GPS coordinates appear to photos. Atleast Android version did them. Here is one pretty annoying thing. When clicking to take a photo, the camera has quite a lag before photo is taken. People have time to move around before captured. This happens especially with Whatsapp. EDIT: Happens only with Whatsapp Feels that I need to have camera pointed for many seconds stabilized, because everything feels blurry, shaky and there is this annoying time of black screen and you don't know what you're gonna get...

• Video I haven't read it from anywhere, but I'm pretty sure Android version had image stabilization in the camera. If it was so, then with Sailfish that is gone. I'm not expecting Jolla to get that working anytime soon either...

• Editing Android version had quite nice adjustment tools which I miss a bit. Sailfish has only lightness and contrast, you don't really do much with them.

Hope this helps somebody to decide whether to convert to Sailfish or not. I have to say that I was hopeful to get a little bit better performance now that there's new imaging chip made by the market leader... Jolla, please put some effort to this. The camera is under-performing in a huge way.

answered 2017-10-18 11:00:40 +0300

mrtrm
755 ●21 ●29 ●40

• Trying to reach from my linux box through ssh gives me error: ssh: connect to host 192.xxx.xxx.xx port 22: Connection refused - worked well in my C-ified Aquafish
• Bluetooth audio connection with JBL speaker and Cambridge audio speaker stutters easily (when browsing the web for instance) - worked well in my C-ified Aquafish
• Tethering my mobile network to my laptop doesn't work (I need that when working in places where there's no Wifi) - worked well in my C-ified Aquafish
• Miss the double tap to wake up the screen.

answered 2017-10-19 08:49:15 +0300

revers
31 ●3 ●3

How is the performance? I think its good. Everything goes smooth.

How is your experience with bluetooth connection still in beta? Not yet tested!

How much time is needed to flash the phone? For me it took about 10 hours. I had to watch some youtube vids because the explanation provided from Jolla and Sony is rather poor. Unlocking the bootloader was tricky and took me quite some time to understand. The flashing part was rather quick.

Is the camera working fast? Can you post some pictures to let us see the quality ? Not yet tested.

I have still some other problems: I cant make the SD card to be mounted or recognized. I cant even format it with my Experia. The card itself seems ok. I put it into the computer and works fine.

Any ideas?

The other thing bothering me is the hint when i start the phone because of unlocking the bootloader.

answered 2017-10-19 09:51:54 +0300

Hedexed
21 ●4

updated 2017-10-21 11:40:12 +0300

The letter 'æ' is missing from the keyboard; will be an issue for Norwegian users. The other special characters used in Norway are present though ('ø', 'å')

Edit: 'æ' is available if selecting Norsk keyboard layout; thanks silta for the tip

Android-integration: Spotify - 'pause' and 'next song' -buttons are missing on lock screen; only song name and 'previous song' -button is displayed.

The phone is much cooler (as in temperature) than when running with the stock Android OS :)

answered 2017-10-20 15:32:19 +0300

jabgoe
286 ●6 ●14 ●20

updated 2017-10-20 16:52:42 +0300

i wish i had read the instructions about backing up the dpm keys before unlocking the boot loader ... :(

flashing with linux was a little difficult since updating my xperia's android didn't succeed in reaching the necessary version. as a result the flash script failed to complete. i managed to find a workaround with infos from the previous instruction of the community version (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1536613#post1536613). so the process of flashing took about 3 hours.

restoring the backup (from my old jolla 1) was a litte disappointing. messages, accounts and such were restored ok but i would have expected a backup-restore procedure also to backup and restore my applications. this didn't happen.

i cursed the bluetooth implementation of sailfishX until i remembered the concept of pairing my headset first ... now it works.

google maps from the android store is a sufficient substitute for the here maps.

i'm missing a (functioning) native telegram client.

after about one week i can say that everything works great. the screen is fast, connectivity (phone, net) is good. i'm missing the double tap. battery life is astonishingly good. didn't test tethering and other bluetooth devices than my headset, though.

for my personal use case everything is very well and a great improvement from my jolla 1.

it would be better, still, with fm-radio ... :)

answered 2017-10-20 16:26:50 +0300

objectifnul
9370 ●150 ●203 ●224

Why did SailfishX drop the BTRFS file system? Technical or legal reasons?

answered 2017-10-21 17:02:43 +0300

Mack_
21 ●2 ●2 ●5

When you turn of your phone and restart, do you have a text: "your device has been ulocked and cant be trusted"

answered 2017-10-21 19:39:13 +0300

dysko
566 ●11 ●16 ●18

is it only me or we are missing 16GB of space? Device has 32 GB but i am seeing only 16.