Ask / Submit
13

What bugs does Sailfish X have?

asked 2017-10-25 18:22:03 +0200

Kalatti gravatar image

I'm interested in buying an Xperia X and would like to know if Sailfish X has any bug or some feature does not work well.

I read that Sailfish OS (from Jolla phones) works best even on an Intex Aqua Fish, is it true?

Does it deserve to buy an Xperia X or should I wait?

edit retag flag offensive close delete

Comments

2

Personally the main issue is that my SD card isn't recognized. The other little thing is that it can't load my SIM card on the fly, I need to reboot.

Apart from that and what's listed by Jolla, works quite well for me. If you find a cheap second hand Xperia X in good shape, it worth it.

Sthocs ( 2017-10-25 19:35:49 +0200 )edit
1

Just reformat your SD card to FAT32 and you're good to go! This is what I did with my 64GB SDHC card now it is working perfectly.

Sailor_John_Doe ( 2017-10-26 01:00:16 +0200 )edit
2

Our help article on SD cards supported by Sailfish OS:
https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201997993

jovirkku ( 2017-10-26 11:06:26 +0200 )edit
1

Please guys, click on the link, I know which cards SFOS is supposed to support... The card is working in the J1, formatted in VFAT.

Sthocs ( 2017-10-26 13:14:44 +0200 )edit

for solid performance I can recommend the Intex Aquafish (plus a good camera) My Xperia does not make me happy yet.

danfin ( 2017-11-12 11:53:23 +0200 )edit

14 Answers

Sort by » oldest newest most voted
29

answered 2017-10-25 18:38:51 +0200

this post is marked as community wiki

This post is a wiki. Anyone with karma >75 is welcome to improve it.

updated 2017-11-18 17:12:53 +0200

oenone gravatar image

Note that some bugs on this list can be remedied, and others not yet. Ideally links would be created in this Wiki leading to the solutions to those issues that can be resolved. If someone can do that it will be useful for the community.

  1. Wireless tethering is not currently enabled. (Workaround exists.)
  2. Near-field-communications is not currently functional.
  3. BTRFS support is missing.
  4. Sometimes the mobile network settings are lost. (Solutions exists.)
  5. Call recording is not currently working properly. (known bug - fixed)
  6. Double-tap-to-wake not enabled. (Solution exists.)
  7. VOIP/SIP is not available natively (true for all of SailfishOS).
  8. Other Xperia X sensors like the barometer, compass, fingerprint, etc do not currently function.
  9. VoWIFI and VoLTE is not currently available (true for all of SailfishOS).
  10. No individualized control of permissions for Android applications (true for all of SailfishOS).
  11. No system for payments for applications in Jolla Store (true for all of SailfishOS).
  12. Convoluted disk space partitioning that seems unnecessarily complicated. (Subjective, not necessary for average user.)
  13. Poor use of available disk space reduces space available for user without good technical justification. (Workaround exists. Subjective, not necessary for average user.)
  14. Camera often does not focus as desired.
  15. Video recordings currently in UHD instead of FHD and Darth Vader like sound recording (reported and apparently fixed upstream already).
  16. Some issues with μSD card functionality under Sailfish X. (Workaround exists.)
  17. Exchange Activesync (EAS) doesn't work reliably. Every few days synchronization stops, and the only workaround is to reboot phone. In fact, EAS is even less stable than on Aqua Fish / Jolla C. Last stable synchronization was on Jolla 1.
  18. Volume adjustment is not synchronized between Sailfish OS and Aliendalvik (Android apps).
  19. Notifications for Android applications are often in loop.
  20. Camera button does not launch camera application as could be expected (not really a bug, more of a desired feature).
  21. Email application is more like a Powerpoint presentation it is so laggy.
  22. Camera button is single-function: only takes photo. Focus on half-press does not work. (May have been fixed in 2.1.3.7)
  23. Camera zoom using volume keys does not function (maybe not bug but more so a desirable feature).
  24. Video viewed in browser is not exactly smooth.
  25. When listening to Spotify with bluetooth headset, if wlan is activated the music has small but audible pauses/hicups at regular intervals, probably due to scanning for access points. (workaround, turn wlan off)
edit flag offensive delete publish link more

Comments

1

Is it possible that bugs, including problems with the 4G? I use a MVNO handler that with Jolla C, I do not mind, while with Xperia it is fixed in 3G. I tried a sim of a 4G enabled MNO operator and stayed in 4G for a few seconds.

mercurio ( 2017-10-25 19:36:11 +0200 )edit
3

I don't understand why people are downvoting this? Sure, 12/13 are maybe a bit subjective but 1-11 are correct.

sidv ( 2017-10-25 19:38:21 +0200 )edit

Is it possible that bugs, including problems with the 4G? I use a MVNO handler that with Jolla C, I do not mind, while with Xperia it is fixed in 3G. I tried a sim of a 4G enabled MNO operator and stayed in 4G for a few seconds.

mercurio ( 2017-10-25 19:38:24 +0200 )edit
4

@mercurio I am using X in the US and have working 4G (for the first time with sailfish, ever), so at least it's not a common bug.

sidv ( 2017-10-25 19:52:50 +0200 )edit
2

I would add to this 14. Camera misfocuses a lot. 15. Video recordings currently in UHD instead of FHD and Darth Vader like sound recording (reported and apparently fixed upstream already)

leszek ( 2017-10-25 20:32:02 +0200 )edit
8

answered 2017-10-26 18:34:14 +0200

this post is marked as community wiki

This post is a wiki. Anyone with karma >75 is welcome to improve it.

updated 2017-10-26 22:50:44 +0200

Filip K. gravatar image

OK, I have just taken @oenone's answer and cleaned it from feature requests and subjective stuff. I am also making into a wiki so everyone can edit it; please change as new information comes to light!

  1. Wireless tethering is not currently enabled. (Workaround exits.)
  2. Near-field-communications are not currently functional.
  3. BTRFS support is missing.
  4. Sometimes the mobile network settings are lost. (Solutions exits.)
  5. Call recording is not currently working properly. (known bug - fixed)
  6. Double-tap-to-wake not enabled. (Solution exists.)
  7. Other Xperia X sensors like the barometer, compass, fingerprint, etc do not currently function.
  8. Camera often does not focus as desired.
  9. Video recordings currently in UHD instead of FHD and Darth Vader like sound recording (reported and apparently fixed upstream already).
  10. Some issues with μSD card functionality under Sailfish X. (Workaround exists.)
  11. Exchange Activesync (EAS) doesn't work reliably. Every few days synchronization stops, and the only workaround is to reboot phone.
  12. Volume adjustment is not synchronized between Sailfish OS and Aliendalvik (Android apps).
  13. Notifications for Android applications are often in loop.
  14. Camera button does not launch camera application.
  15. Email application is very laggy.
  16. Video viewed in browser are not smooth.
edit flag offensive delete publish link more

Comments

2

Thanks, that's much better. For number 10. what is the workaround you mention? Recompiling the kernel?

Sthocs ( 2017-10-26 18:55:40 +0200 )edit

About no. 9: "reported and apparently fixed upstream already" - do you have a source for this information?

TomC ( 2017-10-29 10:07:33 +0200 )edit

The volume in both the earpiece and the speaker, isn't really high. This is an important issue. What is the status? See: https://together.jolla.com/question/169291/xperia-x-speakerphone-volume-too-low/

NikosAlexandris ( 2017-11-02 09:53:29 +0200 )edit

I have an issue where the screen, directly after awakening with a power button press, is totally unresponsive, so you either way for it to time out and re-sleep, or hit the power button twice (to dismiss the awakened screen and then wake it again) in order to be able to swipe the phone on.

I also find the keyboard in Android a little buggy, sometimes touching a text field will bring up the keyboard, but then it automatically disappears after a second.

I also cannot get google maps to utilise the GPS data, I can see with sailfish apps that the GPS is locked in and working, and yet gmaps does not show a location.

Beethoven ( 2017-11-10 16:51:23 +0200 )edit
4

answered 2017-11-10 01:31:36 +0200

hagiz gravatar image

Unlocking phone doesn't always wrk(several times daly for me). Hangs on lock screen and have to preas power button and try again.

Have also had a few reboots during the night while charging, with missed calls as a result. Fixed temporarily by disabling SIM card lock.

Haven't used sailfish since Jolla 1 died a couple of years ago and going frm swiftkey to this keyboard is going to take me a long time to adjust to, otherwise good to be back.

edit flag offensive delete publish link more

Comments

1

Do you have doubletap-to-wake enabled?

It seems that will sometimes behave so that lockscreen is shown but you cannot swipe left or right to enter the lock code. Short press to powerbutton to shut display and retrying works after that.

Withlut doubletap enabled, I never have this problem.

juiceme ( 2017-11-10 10:32:53 +0200 )edit

Yes I have enabled double tap. Thanks, that must be it!

hagiz ( 2017-11-10 10:50:38 +0200 )edit

Double tap doesn't work fine, if you've actived it, this is the cause of this issue

carmenfdezb ( 2017-11-14 19:33:29 +0200 )edit
4

answered 2017-11-10 10:26:52 +0200

objectifnul gravatar image

updated 2017-11-11 22:57:40 +0200

I think the worst one is the lack of available system memory. I couldn't even reinstall onto my 32 Gb Xperia all the apps I had on my 16 Gb Jolla. system data

Additionally, this conclusion of the Oct. 18 meeting appears to be totally unacceptable for those who purchased SailfishX and an Xperia X device to host it:

No safe solutions exist to the two problems: losing 7 GB to factory reset, and too small system partition (rootfs); we'll have in mind to enlarge rootfs in future devices, for now just install less apps and use SD card ;) (sledges, 08:54:50)

I assume the OS development team will not consider this topic closed. I wouldn't recommend buying SailfishX + Xperia X for now, unless a workable solution is made available.

edit flag offensive delete publish link more
3

answered 2017-11-09 15:35:31 +0200

wvh gravatar image

Audio is pretty badly distorted when music plays at low volume, like when a song starts or ends. I suspect some bugs with sampling or power saving, as the Xperia X clearly plays music just fine in Android.

The btrfs file system is not supported anymore (not built into kernel), but the f2fs file system is. However, when formatting a microsd card in Linux, copying music to it and moving the card to the phone, SailfishX only shows the top-level directory. Just creating the file system on Linux and inserting the empty card into the phone works; files on the device are created without a problem over SSH or MTP. I suspect some on-disk format changes, the kernel on Xperia X is pretty old. It might be a good idea for Jolla to include mkfs.f2fs on the device so the GUI can format microsd memory cards and any compatibility issues are avoided.

Apart from that, SailfishX has been pretty stable for me so far.

edit flag offensive delete publish link more

Comments

1

i also have the same audio issues.

clifford ( 2017-11-09 16:05:16 +0200 )edit
2

answered 2017-10-27 16:31:38 +0200

NYL gravatar image

Also i've found if you are in a call handsfree doesn't work

edit flag offensive delete publish link more

Comments

you mean speaker? indeed!

Bavarian ( 2017-11-13 22:37:37 +0200 )edit
1

answered 2017-10-28 07:50:37 +0200

Cedric gravatar image

Found an issue in the wifi while traveling to Korea. I was not able to connect to any 2.4GHz network (actually the search results in the phone seeing only 5G networks). Using the US regdom (iw reg set US in the terminal) makes the phone to see all wifi networks.

This was working fine by default on Jolla 1.

edit flag offensive delete publish link more

Comments

It sets the region based on what mobile network (not what country of SIM you have) it is connected to. This is set upon boot.

oenone ( 2017-10-29 01:45:39 +0200 )edit
1

answered 2017-11-10 13:49:08 +0200

ehakkarainen gravatar image

Just to add one - when (BT) headphones are connected to the phone the phone audio cannot be routed to the loud-speaker.

edit flag offensive delete publish link more
1

answered 2017-11-12 11:42:30 +0200

jsommer gravatar image
  1. Failing CalDAV Synchronization (Duplication of events)
  2. Failing Google Calendar Synchronization (Nothing happens at all)
  3. Loosing VPN Connection although re-connection option is enabled

You need to remove and re-configure the accounts each time if you wand to update the calender events.

edit flag offensive delete publish link more

Comments

agree, most of which works almost flawless on Jolla C / Intex Aquafish

danfin ( 2017-11-12 11:51:12 +0200 )edit

I can confirm this - highly enoying and a must to fix as soon as possible.

DNG ( 2017-11-12 12:44:44 +0200 )edit
1

answered 2017-11-13 23:20:51 +0200

Bavarian gravatar image

updated 2017-11-14 00:17:04 +0200

I found the following issues so far. Trying not to double the points others already mentionned.

1) Unsharp pictures, especially in lowlight. hte preview on the Xperia screen looks good, but the photo taken is blury and less sharp than the preview. Big disappointment

2) Shutter sound and shutter action not syncron, esp. with flash

3) white balance with flash way too yellowish

4) wakin the screen takes 0,5s too long. expect a more snappy behaviour. with button as well as with douple tap

5) speaker volume (during calls on loudspeaker) way too low

6) sometimes laggy behaviour, cant say yet in which situations exactly, will have a more close look on this one when it exactly happens. EDIT: Happened during using firefox, scrolling a news webpage

BTW: These points I like about SFOS-X: - brilliant screen - hardware that feels worthy and stable - ability to use SFOS on some piece of fast hardware that doesnt feel outdated - no overheating/background process overload issues so far -superb word prediction, Android support

-just my 5cents-

edit flag offensive delete publish link more
Login/Signup to Answer

Question tools

Follow
10 followers

Stats

Asked: 2017-10-25 18:22:03 +0200

Seen: 3,523 times

Last updated: Nov 18