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Pull-direction of cover-action [not relevant]

asked 2014-01-21 17:54:32 +0300

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updated 2014-10-23 16:53:37 +0300

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I suspect that Jolla engineers have already discussed & decided how this works, but...

For me, the direction that I have to pull an application cover, to activate its cover-actions, is not logical.

For example, just looking at the Phone app cover, it has a number keypad on the left. So, to my mind, I would expect that I need to swipe my finger to the left.

But it works the other way around. So I find I keep on activating the wrong cover action.

Can this not be changed? (I guess it would affect a lot of people!) Or maybe we can have setting for this behaviour?

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Exactly same thoughts here. :-)

Upp15 ( 2014-01-21 20:11:10 +0300 )edit

yeah, i had the same, but it is the same logic as for "pulls"

-> you pull from the icon out of the screen/cover

if i think of it this way it makes sense (and helps the muscle memory) as it is the same as confirming or canceling actions within apps

ymb ( 2014-02-06 20:28:22 +0300 )edit

It's not very logical at the moment: you sort of pull out the one you want. However, as it stands, the UI already indicates clearly which one is about to be selected, so the logic is easy to learn. Moreover, I definitely think it's too late to change - it would only cause more confusion. The slight visual change proposed below would be much better.

I think it's a bit like the two-finger scroll on some touchpads. At first it felt logical to move the fingers the same way as the scrollbar (moving the viewport, i.e. move fingers down to read down). Over time it became somehow more natural to think of moving the actual page (i.e. moving fingers up to read down).

(The direction of the pull is almost as counterintuitive as the Diesel Stop switch on some old trains. It has two positions: On and Off. Even when properly trained, you never remember which is Run and which is Stop. So when the engine doesn't start, the first thing to try is flip the Diesel Stop switch, whichever way it is.)

jsiren ( 2014-02-09 03:19:28 +0300 )edit

I've actually learnt this now, but it took some training to master. I think the problem is that you tap the cover, and not the cover icon, when you do the action, which then may give the user the perception that he/she interacts with the whole cover.

The way I learnt it was to imagine a transparent overlay, with the icons, that I moved/interacted with.

Mohjive ( 2014-02-09 11:32:58 +0300 )edit

@jsiren I agree that changing the direction would a) be confusing for existing users and b) counter-intuitive with regards to Jolla's overall navigation concept of swiping. I wouldn't compare it to the two-finger scroll. IMHO the current behavior is not just unfamiliar. Dragging the (already visible) target action icon away is also counter-intuitive, thus my suggestion below for changing the layout...

tokaru ( 2014-02-09 14:59:03 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-01-21 18:25:22 +0300

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I suggest a setting (Settings -> Customization -> Covers -> Cover action direction)

(I'm a big fan of customizing, and I've presented this menu to be added also in some of my other answers)

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this would be ideal, because in my head they are in the logical direction now :D it's like that invert mouse in games

Acce ( 2014-02-08 21:02:35 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-02-08 20:43:15 +0300

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updated 2014-02-08 20:43:32 +0300

After > 2 weeks of living with Jolla, I still happen to swipe into the wrong direction sometimes. Rather than changing the swipe direction, I'd change the cover layout slightly so that this becomes more intuitive:

image description instead of image description

The icons being just slightly cropped, it suddenly becomes visible that the actions can be dragged into view. Still these few pixels should not hurt too much with regards to recognizability.

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answered 2014-01-21 18:36:22 +0300

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updated 2014-01-21 20:51:55 +0300

An alternative to changing the direction could be to change the animation. Instead of "dragging the action out of hiding" the animation could be like sliding into that action.

Edit: The type of animation should be a setting, imho.

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