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An "airdrop like" feature on Sailfish 3 [Feature-request]

asked 2018-03-09 22:10:59 +0300

updated 2018-03-10 15:23:26 +0300

I would like to have a function, or an application for Sailfish OS that allows drag and drop from desktop to device (PC, MAC, Linux) and works like "air drop" between MAC and iPhone. I think of something cross-platform that works via browser.

There are something similar, but I mean a drag and drop UI window or icon where put files.

  • The "Sailserver" app on the Jolla Store is a good starting point, with a web view and IP local.
  • Bluetooth file share works from Mac, but it's so slow.
  • Transfer file via FTP/SSL it's tricky, the ip is dynamic and should be changed every time in the FTP client
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so, it is soooo haaaard to assign static ip for your device?

coderus ( 2018-03-09 22:24:44 +0300 )edit

Owncloud/Nextcloud you mean? Yes, unfortunately you need a server for that.

yomark ( 2018-03-09 22:47:48 +0300 )edit

@yomark no it's named Sailserver, see Jolla Store

minojolla ( 2018-03-09 23:05:39 +0300 )edit

hallo @coderus! I'm a designer, I constantly forget how to connect with SSH and I end up using bluetooth! :-)

minojolla ( 2018-03-10 00:31:47 +0300 )edit

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answered 2018-03-11 11:58:46 +0300

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If there is enough demand I would consider developing something like that.

What I have been thinking of is:

  1. A (daemon or foreground app) process that can access the SailfishOS file system and all the goodies like messaging database, notifications, contacts, etc.
  2. A local web service on the phone which communicates with 1. and lets you access and control the SailfishOS device from your browser including upload/downloads, browsing the gallery, listening to music, etc.
  3. A cloud service which has more or less the same functionality as 2. but provides access to 1. without having to know the devices IP address and which will also work if the mobile is behind NAT.
  4. An app for easy file transfer between two SailfishOS devices.
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Very nice. It remember me "BUMP app", an old app for iphone that allow to exchange contacts with bluetooth and accelerometer.

Take a look at Sail Server on Jolla Store. It seem abandoned but it's a good starting point. The app now has a good-but-primitive http interface. I can give you a hand in stylizing the frontend's UI...

minojolla ( 2018-03-11 21:12:41 +0300 )edit

answered 2018-03-10 01:40:13 +0300

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There is AirSail Transfer. You launch the app, and it gives you an IP address (and password) to connect to via your browser. It works via Wifi, so it's faster than Bluetooth.

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Not on the store and doesn't seem to get any more development by the dev.

ApB ( 2018-03-10 19:05:15 +0300 )edit

answered 2018-03-11 12:49:05 +0300

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I use syncthing (from fdroid) for two-way sync between devices (PC and mobile phone and backup on synology nas). It's an easy way to sync files between devices.

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answered 2018-03-09 23:08:08 +0300

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It won't come from jolla. We have been asking for it for ages (see links below) and they won't/can't/don't care/whatever. There have been a few apps that tried to solve the issue but devs lost interest and let them rot. Also SFOS seems to attract the geek kind of person who is fine with dev mode and stuff.

All the above contribute to the crappy situation we have now with file transfers.

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I don't understand what you mean; there is no other mobile OS that has better data transfer capabilities..?

(Well except of course N900 and N9 which have same capabilities)

juiceme ( 2018-03-09 23:33:03 +0300 )edit

I've read. I have to say that Sailfish has a good compatibility, in 2.x versions: it works on MAC with icloud, photos app. Even bluetooth uploads files discreetly, once paired. I propose a drag and drop function to upload files even in / downloads or / documents. Sail Server is not so far (need a complete UI rebuild on the http side!) but it seems abandoned by the developer.

Of course, dropbox does more or less the same job, but a direct upload is better!

minojolla ( 2018-03-10 00:26:48 +0300 )edit

What juiceme said. Unless you are a complete computer illiterate - in which case you should probably stick to Android, like your grandma - there is absolutely no problem transfering files to/from Sailfish devices. And assigning a static IP to your device is the second simplest thing you can do in most router interfaces next to entering your admin password. And if you don't know how, you'll find it in 3 seconds with DuckDuckGo.

During my 4 years of using the N900 daily, I never once even contemplated installing Nokia's PC Suite. I'm happy to downvote that PC Suite thread, as I'm happy to downvote any post lamenting that people are "fine with dev mode". Those people are the reason Sailfish even exists, thankyouverymuch.

bocephus ( 2018-03-10 03:48:42 +0300 )edit

Hey! No need to insult us grandparents!

DaveRo ( 2018-03-10 10:49:32 +0300 )edit

I was self-ironic, of course, in the previous comment. The fact of declaring that I 'forget' the SSH settings for the dynamic IP is not an invitation to start insults, it's a sort of representation of the average user.

In other words, this request feature is a "sort of challenge" for sailfish to create a function, or a native app with drag and drop loading. We are in the UX era after all, not in 2013 ...

minojolla ( 2018-03-10 11:05:12 +0300 )edit
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