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[SOLD] Wanna buy tohkbd - does anyone sell one? [answered]

asked 2018-07-09 16:09:45 +0300

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updated 2018-07-14 22:58:04 +0300

Dear Sailors,

I want to really work on my Jolla 1. A long time ago, I have had a blackberry and the keyboard was great for typing. Now, I am searching for a TOHKBD to get back this kind of efficiency. Does anyone have a good piece for sale?

Thank you in advance!

Cheers, Dejan

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I do, but I don't think you like the Finnish/Swedish layout that much ;)

Direc ( 2018-07-09 19:38:37 +0300 )edit

What does it look like? Is it possible to see a picture? I am a blind typer, so most of that stuff should not disturb me. :-)

ds1979 ( 2018-07-09 21:11:23 +0300 )edit

A long time ago, I have had a blackberry and the keyboard was great for typing.

Yeah, a proper and integrated hardware keyboard is very useful on a mobile device.

Now, I am searching for a TOHKBD to get back this kind of efficiency.

You shouldn't, as you won't "get back this kind of efficiency":

  • The TOHKB plastic parts were produced using 3D printing, not mould injection, hence it feels a bit rough, like a prototype. It bends, has varying clearances between parts etc.
  • The force necessary to trigger a key-press varies greatly between keys, only to become worse over time (i.e., some keys have to be pressed quite forcefully to trigger a key-press, some don't).
  • The backlight (LEDs) illuminating the keyboard quite non-uniformly.
  • It is a bit of a hassle to have its software installed, configured and running properly.
  • The assembly of sbj (Jolla 1 phone) and TOHKB is very top-heavy (in contrast to the N900, which has the battery under the keyboard), so you have to cling onto it while typing (i.e., that feels awkward).

May I suggest considering to buy a Gemini PDA:
Much more modern hardware, integrated keyboard (clamshell design), plus the official ability to install and multi-boot at most four out of Android (stock), SailfishOS, LineageOS, TWRP, a desktop Linux distribution

olf ( 2018-07-10 13:46:35 +0300 )edit

Hi olf,

thanks for your very true opinion! I have been thinking about the fact that it would be top-heavy. I just don't see the necessity to buy a new device while ditching a working piece of hardware, hence the Gemini PDA has more than 400g. With this brick, I could kill someone. ;-) So, I would like to go the "hard" way and see what I can do before I really give up.

I am very hopeful that I will have less typos with a hardware keyboard than with the touch screen keyboard. And the main purpose is to use it with the terminal on the go. The problem is that I have to type most stuff twice because the touch screen keyboard is so tiny in terminal. And - to be honest - I really dislike this. For me, the optimum would be to have a good bluetooth keyboard like the Waytools TextBlade. Unfortunately, this thing does not really take off.

So I would first try the minimal solution by using TOHKBD and take it further. Perhaps I can restore some of the tear and wear with my own 3D printer.

But: as soon as my Jolla 1 hits someone (I do imagine this sometimes ;-) ), I will consider the Gemini PDA immediately. :-)) I think that this is a perfect tool for work on the go. Just the weight is a bit of a problem. I would like to hold it and try it for a week to find out if it is a true solution to my needs. Because on the go, my Jolla fulfills all my needs. Just the terminal stuff is a bit of pain in the *ss because of the tiny keys.

ds1979 ( 2018-07-10 14:14:38 +0300 )edit

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answered 2018-07-09 22:39:27 +0300

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updated 2018-07-09 22:45:36 +0300

I do have one as well.But I wouldn't sell it for that purpose, as I think it will not fullfill your requirements. Explanation: I used it quite extensively for some time, but in the end some keys had to be pressed quite hard in order to react. And: the haptics have never been that great as e.g. the keyboard on Nokias E71 or Sony Ericssons M600/P900i. Probably the Blackberry's keyboards are a totally different story (I never had one so it's just a guess). Anyway, having said that, I'd "sell" you my used TOHKBD in german Qwertz Layout for shipping costs and some "protective charge".

Some pictures here: Qwertz Layout Fine wooden finish Black Case FunkyOH inside

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Kannst du mich bitte auf Telegram kontaktieren? Mein Nick ist dort @dexic. Oder schlage bitte eine Alternative vor. Ich möchte auf einem solchen Kanal keine nicht änderbaren Daten preisgeben. Vielen Dank!

ds1979 ( 2018-07-09 22:59:17 +0300 )edit

Hab' Dich eben angeschrieben. Früher ging leider nicht.

naytsyrhc ( 2018-07-10 14:29:27 +0300 )edit

"Sold". Have fun trying it.

naytsyrhc ( 2018-07-10 18:29:34 +0300 )edit

Läuft super, danke! Hab auch herausgefunden, wie das "N" zu richten ist. :-)

ds1979 ( 2018-07-14 11:10:37 +0300 )edit

Great to hear that.

naytsyrhc ( 2018-07-14 14:04:55 +0300 )edit

answered 2018-07-10 17:42:33 +0300

chappi gravatar image

As mentioned in a comment: buy a Gemini PDA.

(Wenn Du nicht ein kompletter 'Keyboard-Hacker-Freak' bist, der alle Möglichkeiten besitzen möchte, dann vergiss das TOHKBD; es ist nicht schlecht, aber eben auch nicht _wirklich_ super. Kaufe ein Gemini, alles andere ist Verschwendung - imho natürlich;))

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Hi chappi! Danke für deinen Tipp! Ich halte es damit, dass ich Ressourcen nicht einfach wegwerfe, so lange sie funktionieren. Das Jolla 1 läuft noch sauber, ich möchte nur eben damit besser arbeiten können. Die Tastatur habe ich mittlerweile und kenne ihre Nachteile und trotzdem ist es für mich eine Lösung. Das Gemini habe ich mir im Netz angeschaut, aber ohne einen Test an einem realen Gerät ist es für mich ein teures Stück Plastik. Ich bin schon zu oft auf schöne Marketingtexte und Möchtegern-Tests hereingefallen. Die sind für mich nicht mehr maßgeblich, weil ich erkannt habe, dass ich andere Anforderungen habe, als das, was ein "Standard-Tester" von einer Zeitschrift oder einem Blog wirklich in seiner begrenzten Zeit testet. Nochmals danke für deinen Input! Viele Grüße!

ds1979 ( 2018-07-14 11:10:04 +0300 )edit

Super, dass es für Dich eine Lösung ist! Übrigens (a) sehe ich es genau gleich bzgl. Ressourcen. Absolut toll, dass die Jollas 1 noch immer so gut laufen und Jolla (die Firma) Updates liefert. Und (b) wegen teurem Stück Plastik, da haste recht, habe noch beim Schreiben gedacht, so ganz billig ist das Ding nicht, hoffentlich tut es auch wie angepriesen (ich warte bis offizielle Sailfish Unterstützung geliefert und getestet ist). Viele Grüsse zurück und viel Muße beim Tippen ;-)

chappi ( 2018-07-16 09:59:01 +0300 )edit

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