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What's the best current phone for SFOS?

asked 2018-08-27 19:47:55 +0300

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updated 2018-08-29 15:08:35 +0300

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Having played with Sailfish on the Gemini for a little while, it occurs to me that SFOS is close to the perfect phone operating system. I presume that no phones actually ship with it, so a flash would be needed. But I also don't much follow the cellular telephone market. So what would be a good phone to get, specifically with the intention of putting Sailfish on it?

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as i still use j1 (and will till it breaks)- a question about the community ports: how longbare they maintained in general? j1 is still keeping updates after a long time. are the ports playballs of the mood of maintainers? they change phone - and thats it for the old one? or is the longlife spirit also part of the ports?

kaktux ( 2018-08-28 12:00:02 +0300 )edit
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@kaktux I have Nexus 4 with great community port but it's stuck on Sailfish 2.0.5.6 because nobody didn't create fully working port with newer Sailfish. Small updates like from 2.0.4 to 2.0.5 worked without maintainers via terminal with "version --dup" but not to 2.1

kuba77 ( 2018-08-28 12:22:33 +0300 )edit

I just got an Xperia X today and flashed Sailfish X to it. It's not a simple process. If you aren't somewhat familiar with adb/fastboot, I wouldn't recommend it. I am not a big fan of Sony, but the Xperia X is quite nice. Sailfish runs like a dream, and the Android app compatibility seems to work very well.

andersenep ( 2018-08-29 05:43:15 +0300 )edit

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answered 2018-08-27 20:08:56 +0300

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Sony Xperia X

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Yes of course Xperia, but be aware of many still existing bugs in hardware adaption. Have a look around here....

SaimenSays ( 2018-08-27 20:50:11 +0300 )edit
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I am considering an Xperia X Compact with the community port, though. I don't use android apps and I think the smaller size feels better when using the phone with only one hand.

vattuvarg ( 2018-08-27 22:45:20 +0300 )edit
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Xperia X sounds great for my, very responsive, good display, finger print sensor, great battery life and fast charging, very decent price. Fash is only 32Go, same as my former phone N900 bought 7 years before. but it seems dual sim 64Go is now supported. despit official sony support, there is warning message at start about reflash and it seems not all sensors are currently supported.

clementb ( 2018-08-29 00:21:30 +0300 )edit

I'm pretty happy with the Xperia X. I'm curious for improvements with the Xperia XA2 that will hopefully be available soon.

Second best device: Jolla C

Disclaimer: I have no experience with the OPX

SagaciousT ( 2018-08-29 11:02:05 +0300 )edit
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answered 2018-08-28 09:08:48 +0300

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If you can get along without Andropid apps I would still vote for the Oneplus X. Since Rinigus took over the porting, the Sailfish version is always very up to date and absolutely stable. Current SFOS is 2.2.0.29 (Mouhijoki). Compared to the Xperia X (which I also own) there are following advantages:

  • smaller size and weight (only slightly bigger and heavier then Jolla 1 or X Compact although much thinner)
  • perfect gesture support (double tap to wake, "V" to toggle flashlight, "||" to resume/pause media player, "O" to start camera, "A" to open caller list)
  • tristate switch to switch between 3 different ambiances
  • full HD AMOLED display which allows for proper low power mode (glance screen). I am currently working on bringing the old Nokia Sleeping Screen to the OPX.
  • really powerful GPU/CPU/RAM
  • if you have the skills it is also quite good repairable with easy to get spare parts

For more infos see here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-x/development/rom-sailfish-os-t3322567

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answered 2018-08-27 20:10:08 +0300

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Xperia X is the best hardware that is supported by jolla at the moment.

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answered 2018-10-09 07:24:42 +0300

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Thanks to the information above, I got an XperiaX and flashed Sailfish X -- and if there is a better phone/OS combination anywhere at any price, I have neither seen nor heard of it. Couldn't be happier! (Well, okay, could -- need wifi calling and a native ProtonMail app because the Android one kind of sucks.) But I love it. I have a reliable VPN running on it, and most everything set up beautifully.

If more people saw and used this combination, there would be a lot more adopters. And all of it for just about $200 including the Jolla license. Nothing would touch it at that price.

So thanks again, everybody!

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answered 2018-08-27 22:53:40 +0300

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updated 2018-08-28 02:34:36 +0300

We all know that 'best' doesn't mean anything. Having said that, the answer to your question is X Compact, since the X is too big. Even though the current available port for XC is only v. 2.1.3.7, It's still better than Jolla phone, (which is just about the same size, and has official 2.2), because of hardware specs. I haven't tried yet, but there's a port of 2.2 for a Xiaomi phone called Redmi 2, (aka Hongmi), which is a nice size, and possibly better hardware-wise than the Jolla. I still doubt it matches up to XC, though.

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But to underline it - Levone1 talks about phones with community ports. So there is no official support and no alien dalvik on this phones.

mettska ( 2018-08-28 01:01:19 +0300 )edit

Right... Op had assumed that no phones had it officially anyway...

Levone1 ( 2018-08-28 02:35:37 +0300 )edit

Hi Levone1. Is the Xperia Compact allowing installation Sailfish X or are u using a community port? Do android apps work on it?

lsjmhar ( 2018-08-29 14:30:47 +0300 )edit
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Community port only. Version is 2.1.3.7. Function is excellent. Android works, if you can get the files, (which you can't officially - check last answer here - https://together.jolla.com/question/169496/xperia-x-microg/).

Levone1 ( 2018-08-29 14:48:07 +0300 )edit

You can get semi official image for Xperia X Compact by now. See https://together.jolla.com/question/185922/sailfish-os-on-sony-xperia-x-compact/?answer=188953#post-id-188953

naytsyrhc ( 2018-10-10 21:23:07 +0300 )edit
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answered 2018-09-01 04:04:31 +0300

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Well if you don't use Dalvik and Android apps, and can get along with mail, calendar, alarm clock then a j1 is a fine device still. Using it means you 100% have no connection to any Google infrastructure and with iptables you can lock it down totally solid. Free yourself from the great Satan!

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And if there were some native way other than browser (which is problematic) of using ProtonMail, I would happily nuke Alien Dalvik and renounce Googledroid and all its pomps and works. But so far, there isn't. I have written to the ProtonMail people, begging them to compile an ARM port of the beta ProtonMail Bridge for Linux, which would likely make ProtonMail accessible from the SFOS native mail application. Haven't heard back and, sadly, don't expect a reply.

depscribe ( 2018-10-09 19:17:32 +0300 )edit
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answered 2018-10-11 02:03:23 +0300

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Sony Xperia xa2 is most probably the best phone for sailfish os. Sailfish will be available to run on it in about 2 weeks when sailfish 3 is released if I was you I would wait until it comes out and buy that phone.

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XA2 is worse than X in almost all compartments: weaker CPU, less free storage and no 64 GB version. Equivalent camera and I understand worse sound.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2018-10-11 10:30:40 +0300 )edit

And also, XA2 has some hardware problems, like display damage due to overheating and deformation of the inner components. More information about problems (on Russian language), with photos of the problem, can be found here: Yandex market reviews

Parallax ( 2018-10-11 11:33:58 +0300 )edit

The CPU is weaker?

XA2 has 8 cores (4x 2,2/4x 1,8) and the X 6 cores (2x 1,8 / 4x 1,2)

makarch ( 2018-10-11 12:48:53 +0300 )edit

The size of the bevel is better on the Xx.

vattuvarg ( 2018-10-11 12:51:35 +0300 )edit

@makarch The X has 2 big (A72) and 4 little (A53) cores, the XA2 has 8 little cores and no big cores at all.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2018-10-11 13:52:25 +0300 )edit
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