The end of Ambiences?

huh? We got white ones and black text tho. I do not see the android analogy that much. All they did is listen to me and finally brought back the abillity to change quicksettings without leaving the running application ;) More serious, i like the unification and it never made sense to me how it worked in 2.0 with dedicated ambiance menu in overly prominent place. Regarding more features, yes it would be nice to have setups changing with ambiances. But i can still do it the other way around and automate ambiance changes with "Situations" application. +1 nevertheless as i share your view for the most part and care about ambiances

It seems the light ambiences cater to the android crowd. I appreciate the option, i do, but their inclusion could have waited until there was a way to create them ourselves.

I like Situations but things would be much easier to do if Ambiances included more settings.

I'm also very disappointed that ambiences will most likely never become separate user profiles (with different settings, a different set of applications running, etc) as promised in the first promotional material. There's so much potential in them, and Jolla doesn't do anything with it.

True, ambiances were supposed to have more effect on the system with different profiles etc but that's not really ruled out in this setup either. Then again probably a lot of people would use ambiances separately from the user profile features. I don't know how useful it'd be to actually have profile features tied to ambiances. I think that they could possible trigger them but I think the profile features themselves deserve a separate system on their own.

Actually, some idea I've had for a while would be to have like some sort of work spaces where you have a certain set of apps for specific use cases. Go to work, switch to work mode and have all your apps open relevant to that setting. Get home and switch to free time mode with apps open for that context... Surely there are many great ideas for ambiances but probably they aren't so high on the priority list right now. Ambiances are a huge part of Sailfish OS' identity so most likely they'll stay in one form or another.

The problem is, that at the moment it looks like they are more and more reduced to be just a stupid theming function.

@Toxip: that's basically what was shown off in this promo video four years ago, look closely at the application covers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBQdfcLhts8&t=1m31s

@Toxip, that is actually what i do with Situations since long time. Dependend on wlan or BT i have "profiles" in situations app and startup all apps i need in Car/work/home. I can almost see jolla not putting more effort into ambiances because of the already brilliant situations app. You can even set Situations to change stuff when you manually change ambiances by defining the ambiance as condition for the profile.

Ambiances are what brought me to Sailfish at first, then I saw perfect gesture control of mostly everything (browser doesn't have gestures..). But now, after a few days trying to make ambiances usable, I am getting back to android and hopes they will do something with ambiances, or create profiles. I created ambiances for every situation I want to change some behaviour (like I did on Nokia E7 and BB10 blackberries), at night, I want no sound, no vibration, no screen wake up - only important number will ring. At home, I want sound, no need for vibrations. At workplace, silent (chats) or very low volume of sounds (call, sms). During meeting, no sound, no vibration, screen wake up. And I can continue. Cannot do it with ambiances and that way, even android DND/Silent/Normal is better (even if it is bad). I could set for every profile on BB which application do what. I will miss gestures and beautiful UI with background image focus with transparent menus/apps. Paid for Sailfish and I do not regret it, I am glad I supported Jolla this way. Unfortunatelly, Sailfish is not for me probably at this moment and I hate android, so what now? :D