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How much Google is in SFOS?

asked 2018-11-15 21:59:08 +0200

FloR707 gravatar image

Hi there!

The main reason for me to buy a Jolla phone was to buy an European phone, plus Jolla's commitment to privacy. For one or the other reason I had to look behind the GUI and found several times the word google popping up. There are processes running having google in their name and I recently I saw this:

[D] unknown:0 - ProfileManager::syncProfile( "google.Signon" )
[D] unknown:0 - found a valid sync profile with the given name: "google.Signon"

So I was wondering how much google software is build in Sailfish and what impact this could have regarding privacy.

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Before I can answer this, I have to ask you the following: 1st do you have android support enabled or not? 2nd did you add a google account?

naytsyrhc ( 2018-11-15 22:45:01 +0200 )edit

I believe I have android support enabled since I am using two android apps and no, I do not have a google account.

FloR707 ( 2018-11-15 22:56:38 +0200 )edit
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its your prize for running android apps. try to go native, or use the browser.

cpb ( 2018-11-15 23:05:10 +0200 )edit

Actually this is part of my question. What is the price? Does activating android support mean that my phone will send information to google services? I am not a programmer and I never looked into the "open source" code provided by google. Does using a "free" google script automatically mean that you share information with google?

FloR707 ( 2018-11-15 23:32:44 +0200 )edit
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Android and Google are not the same. You can have an Android device without any Google on it - e.g. AOSP or Lineage OS. Even the in Sailfish currently still underlying framework AlienDalvik for Android - nothing to do by default with Google.

My bet is the above piece is very likely to be associated with adding a google account for mail - there you need signin to log into Google. Makes sense to me.

Kaiserpinguin ( 2018-11-16 00:26:20 +0200 )edit

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answered 2018-11-16 11:00:07 +0200

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Your google.signon finding must have to do with a google account. Either mail or XMPP or anything else (calendar sync?). I don't have any of those and so for me a

devel-su journalctl -fa | grep -e google -e android

Doesn't show any entry in a reasonable observation period.

Without Android support started the following

ps ax | awk '{print $5}' | sort | uniq | grep -e googl -e android

Only shows:

/usr/bin/android-notifications

(an app installed from openrepos)

With enabled android support

ps ax | awk '{print $5}' | sort | uniq | grep -e googl -e android

Shows:

/usr/bin/android-notifications

android.process.acore

android.process.media

com.android.phone

com.android.providers.calendar

com.android.systemui

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I do not have any google account. I am not using any google service like mail, calendar, doc or any other service. I see this entries when my calendar updates. I use an OwnCloud calendar and Sync it via CalDav.

FloR707 ( 2018-11-16 21:26:40 +0200 )edit
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