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Adopting abandoned apps?

asked 2018-12-04 22:45:23 +0300

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updated 2019-05-23 16:35:09 +0300

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Hello Sailors!

I stumbled across Picross in Jolla Store a few weeks back, but it didn't work at all. At some point a fatal bug had slipped in the release version, or something, but there was a patch for it already. I tested it and it worked - and I liked the game, too. I decided to fix the application properly and publish it, and ended up rewriting some parts of it.

This gave me an idea; are there any other community-provided applications that you would like to use, but are no longer maintained? Submit your suggestions in answers, and I see what I can do :)

Edit: This question was inspired by Sailfish Devember, so make sure you check out that, too!

Edit: About Web browsers: As much as I'd like to create an awesome browser, I don't have the resources. The are many Qt WebEngine (or was it WebView?) based browsers already, and adding one more benefits no one. Chromium or Gecko based browser would make more sense, but that would be even more massive task. Jolla might soon start tackling this issue, and they know it needs to be resolved sooner that later. In the Sailfish 3 day video it was said that Jolla keeps an eye on the matter and Chromium might be the way to go - which I think is not a bad choice at all.

How are the projects progressing, you ask?

  • YTplayer: 0.6.6 released on OpenRepos (20.5.2019)
    • Quota issue finally fixed! Thanks for help, tworaz!
    • [New] automatically updating youtube-dl
    • [New] support light ambiences
  • SailKino: major UI rework done and released (25.2.2019)
  • CountMe 2: Screen blanking prevention added. (12.2.2019)
  • Picross 2: Updated welcome screen, translations added. (12.2.2019)
  • CarBudget: Pushed layout fixes to condo4, hopefully he still updates the app... (11.2.2019)
  • Battery Buddy: Version 1.2 pushed to Harbour (11.2.2019)
  • Daedalus: It compiled and ran almost out-of-the box!
  • SMPC: Not started yet.
  • PhoneHook: Not started yet, but definitely on my list :)
  • Call Flasher: In consideration. It may be possible, but the results may be poor. Looking at it later this year.
  • Squeeze UI: In consideration. It's hard to test this, as I don't have a Squeebox... https://openrepos.net/content/pawelspoon/squeeze-ui-remote-ps
  • File Browser (although it is not abandoned): I am implementing support for other applications to open files and folders in the application. Serious nerd snipe at the moment! Need to learn D-Bus first...
  • Swipe URL in browser toolbar right/left in order to go back/forward - updated to latest sailfish, forked, with pull request, also released on OpenRepos
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Even abondend apps on OpenRepos that with some TLC may find their way in the Jolla store?

JSEHV ( 2018-12-04 23:51:04 +0300 )edit

Absolutely!

Direc ( 2018-12-05 00:42:35 +0300 )edit
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These two I miss:

Phonehook: https://openrepos.net/content/omnight/phonehook

Call Recorder: https://openrepos.net/content/dpurgin/call-recorder

kaari ( 2018-12-05 03:05:57 +0300 )edit
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I miss "Daily Comics" from tardypad on OpenRepos: https://openrepos.net/content/tardypad/daily-comics

Code is here:

https://github.com/tardypad/sailfishos-daily-comics

And maybe you can improve it by enabling users to edit and fix the comics definitions/urls.

melg01 ( 2018-12-05 06:25:53 +0300 )edit
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Daedalus Musicplayer: https://openrepos.net/content/djselbeck/daedalus-musicplayer

In my eyes the best player for SailfishOS, but unfortunately no longer able to get/display album information since Sailfish 2.1.4.14

dyraig ( 2018-12-05 10:10:40 +0300 )edit

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answered 2018-12-06 12:36:10 +0300

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updated 2019-04-30 20:17:42 +0300

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  • YTPlayer (see the question for updates)
  • Defender (I don't know if it is still being actively developed, but it has not seen any updates in a while)
  • Shmoose or PingYou (Just like Defender, no idea if it is still in active developement.)
  • Web Pirate (Edit: Accidentaly wrote Webcat, but that is still in very active developement. Sorry Leszek!)
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I think YTPlayer only needs an updated version of the youtube-dl. Also a feature to update it from the app would be good to make it "future proof". Haven't used other you listed, so no comments on those. ☺

raketti ( 2018-12-06 12:44:12 +0300 )edit
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to make ytplayer work you should open a terminal and update YouTube-dl via curl -L https://yt-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl -o /usr/share/harbour-ytplayer/bin/youtube-dl and then chmod a+rx /usr/share/harbour-ytplayer/bin/youtube-dl

but i perfectly agree, an option to have the update inside the app would be wonderful ...

247 ( 2018-12-06 18:22:41 +0300 )edit

Nice! Thanks for the tip @247!

raketti ( 2018-12-06 19:00:12 +0300 )edit

@247 I think that could be done within YouTube-dl... I see what I can do :)

Direc ( 2018-12-07 09:57:32 +0300 )edit

@LemD I think you need, because user nemo can't write to /usr/share/ or its subfolders. There may be a way to relocate the binary to user data path instead. If that is possible, then I can (try to) implement updating the component directly from the application.

Direc ( 2018-12-07 17:26:27 +0300 )edit
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answered 2019-02-26 10:31:03 +0300

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Whisperfish is without maintainer since today, cf. https://github.com/aebruno/whisperfish/issues/130

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Very sad :( I hope someone can keep it going ..

jayki ( 2019-02-26 11:29:36 +0300 )edit
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It stopped working for me a few weeks ago, maybe due to protocol changes... Anyway, very sad.

ElderOrb ( 2019-02-26 15:35:42 +0300 )edit

It is working by me but i hope anybody can adopt this great app. It has issues... i know but it is native.

monkeyisland ( 2019-02-27 16:17:23 +0300 )edit

A Signal Client is much needed for SailfishOS.

ezameht ( 2019-04-02 22:54:47 +0300 )edit

+1 pls adopt this app

nepomuk ( 2019-04-05 08:27:12 +0300 )edit
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answered 2018-12-06 18:44:29 +0300

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updated 2019-01-08 13:58:27 +0300

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  1. PhoneHook or Scumstopper
  2. Call recorder because recording calls don't work anymore -- That was due to a bug in Sailfish. Recording works again in 3.0.1.11.
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I had completely forgotten about PhoneHook...

I am not going to have a look at Call Recorser, since I use the built-in functionality and I have no motivation to switch over, sorry. Well, perhaps later, but not anytime soon at least.

Direc ( 2018-12-10 20:29:40 +0300 )edit

PhoneHook and CallRecorder seem to cause issues when upgrading SailfishOS (mentioned in each and every SailfishOS' release notes for years).
IMO, this is their primary flaw. If that cannot be solved, it may make sense to leave these two apps abandoned.

olf ( 2018-12-22 23:32:38 +0300 )edit

The author of PH claims it is no longer an issue.

pemek ( 2018-12-31 10:57:27 +0300 )edit

I haven't done anything to PhoneHook on upgrade since developer said it is not needed. Never had any problem.

mSorvisto ( 2019-02-25 18:54:23 +0300 )edit

@olf: neither Phonehook nor Call Recorder have caused any issues for a very long time. In fact, Call Recorder had already received an update to fix the problem before the Sailfish update that broke it was released. I don't understand why Jolla keeps adding that tidbit to the release notes.

nthn ( 2019-03-07 19:03:06 +0300 )edit
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answered 2018-12-18 11:40:33 +0300

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updated 2019-02-24 14:31:36 +0300

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Flowplayer by Cepi Perez. Another good developer lost, oh well.

Cepi!, come back, all is forgiven!

https://openrepos.net/content/cepiperez/flowplayer-0

and here were the code, if not empty:

https://github.com/CepiPerez/flowplayer

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i'll give it a try

pawel ( 2019-02-14 15:30:03 +0300 )edit

@Edz : there is no code here: https://github.com/CepiPerez/flowplayer

do you think you can get it ? ask him to upload it ?

pawel ( 2019-02-14 15:47:34 +0300 )edit

No and no.

Edz ( 2019-02-14 15:49:40 +0300 )edit

tried to contact him on github, but nothing

pawel ( 2019-02-24 14:24:07 +0300 )edit

he also has a TMO profile; http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=34540

Edz ( 2019-02-24 14:28:10 +0300 )edit
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answered 2018-12-17 01:15:36 +0300

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gPodder

Still the best working podcatcher for SailfishOS by far, but I'd love to see active development on it again.

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I submitted a (small) patch to it a while ago and never heard back, preferably it should be maintained inside the upstream project but we'll need to see how to get there.

Keeper-of-the-Keys ( 2019-01-08 21:23:35 +0300 )edit
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I did a fork of the original project, added Keeper-of-the-Keys patch (thanks for that!) and translations support. I've builded RPM that include last commits (MPRIS support) from my github account.

carmenfdezb ( 2019-02-09 15:00:50 +0300 )edit

@carmenfdezb Nice! Is it on Storeman or Jolla store?

sunburnedpenguin ( 2019-02-21 09:46:59 +0300 )edit

@sunburnedpenguin, it's only on my github account atm. If you want to try it, here it is url: https://github.com/carmenfdezb/gpodder-sailfish/releases/download/4.7.0/harbour-org.gpodder.sailfish-4.7.0-1.noarch.rpm

carmenfdezb ( 2019-02-21 10:23:32 +0300 )edit

@carmenfdezb Great, thanks! Any response from the original maintainer @thp?

sunburnedpenguin ( 2019-02-21 11:14:42 +0300 )edit
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answered 2018-12-18 10:43:29 +0300

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sailogram or depecher if is abandoned dont know. Maybe some other telegram client. As none of them is fully working. Would be great to have at least one good im app on sailfish.

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Depesher is in development and one more telegram client is in active development too(http://gitlab.unique-conception.org/sailfish-app/telegra-me)

Magog ( 2018-12-18 11:21:18 +0300 )edit
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Telegra Me is looking very promising! Spoke to the developer and he told me it will be on OpenRepos soon!

JSEHV ( 2018-12-18 12:15:12 +0300 )edit

Telegra Me is actually quite good!

Direc ( 2019-05-20 23:35:37 +0300 )edit
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answered 2018-12-05 17:41:12 +0300

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updated 2018-12-05 17:41:12 +0300

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daedalus music player

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I'm checking it out!

It looks like I have to downgrade myself a Sailfish 1.x or 2.x, luckily I still have my Jolla 1 so I can see how it is supposed to work!

Direc ( 2018-12-05 18:33:59 +0300 )edit
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I do not see point of fork Daedalus, because we have unplayer, that's is basically same application.. Also unplayer is still under development.

Better idea would be help to enchance unplayer even more better, like add equalizer and so on.

And I know that even there is one application it doesn't mean it's waste of time to create alternative application. But I don't see it relevant idea until we have everything important applications. You know.

@Direc you chooses but reconsider first, there is many other more important applications.

Jk ( 2018-12-05 22:59:06 +0300 )edit

I liked a lot the ability to download artist and album pictures automatically that Daedalus had; I don't think Unplayer supports it?

Federico ( 2018-12-06 01:35:21 +0300 )edit
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In my eyes, daedalus has a number of advantages over upnplayer:

  • Able to use the SailfishOS trackerDB directly => it follows any change in the collection "automatically". Unplayer runs its own DB and requires you to update it each time you change something in your collection - I find that highly annoying.
    • I like the way daedalus handles play queues much better
    • I find the deadalus interface much easier to use, which is in part due to its similarity to SMPC, which I use frequently. The idea of having these two apps so similar was a really good one of the original author.
    • I like the handling of album and artist images much better in daedalus
    • daedalus supports plain-text playlists, which allows me to change them with a text editor, if I want to (does not happen often, but it does happen). Those playlists are even readable by the Sailfish-player...

I actually think that daedalus is much further in development than unplayer (as in: I do not remember missing any features) - it's only that something in the backend broke due to a SailfishOS change.

@Direc - I have not upgraded to 2.2.xxx or higher yet, but on 2.1.x, daedalus is running and you can add songs to the play queue and play them, but as all album information is missing, any sorting does not work, nor do album images and anything else related to that information. As mentioned above, SMPC works and looks very similar to daedalus, so if you happen to have an mpd running somewhere, you can use that for an impression as well. Also, I'm not much of a programmer, but I'd be very happy to help with testing should you need somebody to do so.

dyraig ( 2018-12-06 10:52:30 +0300 )edit
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Daedalus is inspired by SMPC, which is a mpd client. Actually I did some work on SMPC and daedalus. The plan was unifiying the components used by both players.

But I guess it's too big for me beside my other projects...

@Direc maybe we could work together on SMPC and daedalus

michfu ( 2018-12-07 14:46:00 +0300 )edit
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answered 2018-12-16 18:19:13 +0300

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updated 2018-12-16 18:59:10 +0300

CuteSpot stopped to work for me some time ago. Don't know what's the current status as I stopped my use of Spotify (mainly because it stopped working on Sailfish ...)

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Sporify on Sailfish is a big can of worms, plus there are talented minds working on it already.

Having said that, Spotify on Alien Dalvik is broken ATM, so I can't use Spotify at all on mobile.

Direc ( 2018-12-16 20:51:31 +0300 )edit

Try with Hutspot, working okay for me.

Bx16 ( 2018-12-16 23:30:59 +0300 )edit
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It seems it's not on OpenRepos nor on Jolla Store yet. https://github.com/sailfish-spotify/hutspot

tux-lee ( 2019-01-05 01:46:15 +0300 )edit

Actually no developer can do something, as spotify just closed their API - we have to wait until spotify publishes a new one.

Melvin ( 2019-01-30 00:10:50 +0300 )edit

hutspot is on openrepos now, see https://openrepos.net/content/wdehoog/hutspot

rgrnetalk ( 2019-03-01 12:19:04 +0300 )edit
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answered 2019-03-06 18:29:08 +0300

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updated 2019-03-06 18:30:00 +0300

Prostogram

Login not working anymore neither in alpha or stable since 2/2019. Probably some change in Instagram API?

Last update is from 9/2018:

https://openrepos.net/content/wiktorek140/prostogram-alpha

https://openrepos.net/content/wiktorek140/prostogram

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Most likely some API change. I don't use Instagram, so I likely won't pick this one up.

Direc ( 2019-05-20 23:38:26 +0300 )edit
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answered 2018-12-05 17:40:30 +0300

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squeeze ui

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This is actually quite cool! Logitech has discontinued the product line, it seems, but I guess I could have a quick look at it. Is there something broken currently? The devices don't seem to be available anymore... Another cool piece of tech I discovered too late :(

Edit: Okay, I stumbled upon this blog post and my interest jumped quite a bit, as I do have a RasPi in a very convenient location regarding music playback!

Direc ( 2018-12-16 12:16:20 +0300 )edit

@Direc: it is all now open source and there is picoplayer that you can install on rasp. i am now running 3 orginal squeezeboxes and one picoplayer.

i had a deeper look on the control. the only thing that does not work for me is the volume control. the reason for this is: the ui is optimized for jolla 1, on intext and xperiax the slider overlays some buttons. so that would be all to do. the other thing is: there is no deployable for tablet .. (which i do not need, but there is an open issue)

the app does not follow the standard sdk build, so i am not sure if i can build it with my dummy knowledge, but what i could do is: i can fork it and bring it into my repo. i will try to build it. if i fails, if somebody can help me ....

pawel ( 2018-12-21 08:13:05 +0300 )edit

Oh. That raises my interest significantly! Let's see if I can make it compile... Edit: Oh you already did! So I'll fork your repo and see how it goes :)

Direc ( 2018-12-21 20:21:35 +0300 )edit

Okay, piCorePlayer eats a whole RasPi... I don't have one to spare just for that, so testing has to wait a bit. I'll look at this again next year. Nice work so far!

Is the layout issue still there?

Direc ( 2018-12-21 20:36:05 +0300 )edit

i did adapt it a bit but do need a solution for all the different sizes.. need to find a solution yet

pawel ( 2018-12-22 13:25:24 +0300 )edit
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