Better off without Android apps

Maybe a dumb question- where/how can i do that? I use android only twice a day for my transit app, so i would use a timed "shutdown" for that also if available and with battery-saving effect

settings - android support (one of the last items listed).

And there are some useful patches/apps on openrepos:

https://openrepos.net/content/schturman/patch-stopstart-dalvik-specific-time

https://openrepos.net/content/schturman/alien-dalvik-stop

You can only be better off without android apps when there's actually a store with some decent apps to choose from, at the moment it's barren and piss poor, it's been 5 years since I bought a J1 and nothing's changed. If there's no rapid advances this will all go to shit, OS's are starting to pop up, some of them are actually 'open' and they seem to be moving faster that SFOS, for me, this year is the last chance saloon for sailfish before i give it up as another 'could have been' .

it depends heavyly on what you need. eg on my nokia n8, i used it 4.5 years, the only additional thing i installed was opera. nothing else needed since all was onboard. player, notes, mail, radio. the so called apps like app of my mail provider? lol! or eg the bahn? no need since i use web page. should be clear that server based solutions rule all and then there is just a hand full of missing things, eg nowadays i use working hours tracker because i dont want to add minutes and hours but i could do excel (or replacement) table to do so. the native jolla apps need some love, eg browser, mail, calender. i'm definitively better without droid bulk. you can choose your way.

Totally agree with you on that, and remain baffled at Jolla's defiance at integrating this basic function, can someone please clarify that issue for me

If the community is not strong enough, institutionalization will only succeed in creating another Google / Apple -type monster, with all of the same fluff and exploitation, (which might as well be, without a strong community). It's all about priority - I don't mind lagging a bit behind the times to support something good. If you need the big boys to be able to use your phone for day-to-day life, just have 2 phones...

The developer of Zasterbanker and Piepmatz has developed/implemented a way to get payed apps on SFOS. Of course this is not a Jolla solution and many might not like to use it but one exists nevertheless.

I dont know if it makes sense that everyone has to look for their own way how to get paid.

It could end up that people abuse it as well.

Exactly! The problem of apps reporting data is not a problem of Android as an OS. Basically Android has better mechanisms to grant app permissions than SFOS! Mainstream apps for SFOS simply do not exist and the tiny user base makes SFOS uninteresting to harvest data. Android compatibility is crucial for SFOS to succeed beyond being a nerd OS and to survive. To sandbox all Android apps and enable the user to grant app permissions individually or grant permissions to a set of dummy data to satisfy app requests would the right way forward for SFOS!