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XA2: Looking for arguments for sticking with Sailfish OS

asked 2019-03-02 23:21:59 +0300

Jonathan gravatar image

updated 2019-03-03 15:43:46 +0300

Dear all,

I wanted to get a google-free Smartphone with Long Term Support.

This is what I did: Bought a refurbed XA2, payed € 29,99 to Jolla Ltd. and installed Sailfish 3.

This is what I got:

  • Opened the browser, started a search, was welcomed by a Google Logo ... ?!?!? ... After a research I learned, that there is an app named "Storeman" (not supported by Jolla, not preinstalled) where I can add a repository of a user called "coderus" (not affiliated with Jolla) which installs a few more search engines ... Wow, this is tough. [Edit: I wasn't clear at this point. Sure I do know where to find settings for search engines. My concern was the limited choice of alternatives like Bing & Co. I'm preferring qwant.com)

  • When being called or when starting a call the screen gets blank and I'm not able to switch it on until the call is ended. Wow ... I thought calling is sort of a basic function which should work without hassles when paying for a smartphone OS which is almost solely build for the model I bought.

  • When returning home from outside the Wifi is not re-connecting. I have to switch wifi off an on again. This is not acceptable ... and once again sort of a basic function.

  • When opening the calendar half of the screen is cluttered with numbers and there is no way to change this "month view". Other calendar apps seems to be non-existent.

  • App navigation is sometimes weird. For example, when a video is opened by an app it's pretty hard to go back to the app - since you will be navigated to the gallery(!) which you have to exit, go back to the home screen and start the first app again.

  • The "pull gestures" ("pull down to have more options") seems to be a clever way of hiding menu buttons, but I found it rather fiddling to move my fingers exactly in the right distance to highlight the correct item. Nearly every time I'm thinking: "Couldn't there be some buttons to click on? Would be so easy ...")

  • for the advertised Android Layer I'm asked to use "aptoide" - a store where I will get unauthorized copies of outdated APKs uploaded by unknown people not affiliated with the owners of the apps. However, installing F-Droid was easy.

  • The only Android app I'm really in the need of - Wire from wire.com - keeps crashing after startup. No workaround found, therefore unusable.

  • BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) is not working. What a pity, I would love to connect a Mi-Band 3. Well I could buy an old Pebble time, stick with Bluetooth, an use Rockpool. But I'm not sure if this is what I want.

Ok, folks, now here comes my question:

I really do like Sailfish OS as an google free alternative to mainstream, and I do like this community. But there are so many deal-breaker (see above) that it's pretty hard to keep lovin' u ...

Now there is Lineage OS 16 out and you know what: Our beloved Sony Xperia XA2 is officially supported from start on.

I would love to stick with Sailfish but I need arguments which weights more than the deal-breaker from above.

One argument could be: "Listen, Jonathan, if you really want Long Term Support, stick with Sailfish for Jolla Ltd will support exactly your phone for the next five years and will provide monthly security patches. You will have to pay for this tremendous support, but I'm assuming this is ok for you. This way you will not be dependent on Googles AOSP and some single developers which only by chance happens to have your phone model and presumably won't support it in two years anymore."

Please, give me this and more arguments. Otherwise I would have to say good bye.

Looking forward,

Jonathan

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Good-bye, may you fare well.

chappi ( 2019-03-05 23:43:45 +0300 )edit

Same story here, XA2 newly bought , had SFOS 3 on it, just buggy and features missing, not complete OS, so I had no choice to go to Lineage 16 with MicroG. Its working fine, ill have to wait for a long time I think before SFOS 3 Mature or get decent features that work without mods etc, especially the basic ones. Long list of bugs , missing features, and 6 months later still not solved.

aQUICK1 ( 2019-05-04 12:24:40 +0300 )edit

maybe xperia would have been an better option then.

not perfect, but no critical bugs too.

pawel ( 2019-05-04 19:52:59 +0300 )edit

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answered 2019-03-05 16:29:20 +0300

Stanislav1988 gravatar image

This is terrible that it is call a linux but I cant install linux apps, I need Google Music, so why it dont let me install it if linux app (google music for desktop) exist?

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answered 2020-09-09 21:17:26 +0300

Finally! That's how I felt when I got my Xperia XA2 Ultra and was able to flash Sailfish X onto it.

There were some headaches in the beginning and I have to concur with someone who said that the OS lags far behind the competitors Android and iOS. Sadly.

However, I am not experiencing any bugs or greater hardware issues. I am using my Sailfish XA2 device as a daily sailor. ;-) I was hoping to buy a Jolla Phone when it came but couldn't for economical reasons.

I also want to get away from Google. Stating, as someone did, that it is not the point of Sailfish to get away from Google is true and not true at the same time. Sailfish OS is for privacy and security. Google does not care about privacy.

What I can do: - Use my BankID app that allows me to identify myself when buying things online or when I need to log.into my banking app. - Everything else that I need for my daily life

The real trouble for me is finding a way to get out of GSuite.

Problems encountered: - Predictive writing does not always work (doesn't even work in the together Jolla app I am using now) - The native browser is too old, my bank says it is not secure enough and won't let me log in. This might just be because they don't recognize it, but still... I have installed Brave Browser and it works like a charm almost always. - Brave browser seems to have problems when I try to show clips from it in full screen mode - No FM radio support on my phone (though there is hardware) - Bluetooth does not work with Android Apps - Location is a bit slow

So, I mention some drawbacks, some of which are quite serious, but generally speaking, I love the UI and some patches that make it even better. Some of those patches ought to be incorporated into the native system, however.

I really like using Sailfish OS on this phone. The reason I got it was that I knew that newer phones would have more problems and the HW adaptation wouldn't be as great. (Still waiting for FM Radio).

Sailfish OS is a system for people who are interested in technology and are OK with some glitches.

I am still happy with my Sailfish XA2.

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