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[Idea] No more hidden indicators [answered]

asked 2013-12-26 00:31:05 +0300

DerJott gravatar image

updated 2013-12-26 00:41:08 +0300

I live the whole gesture system. But i´m also missing the Android-like indicators for battery, online/offline and 3G/2G. There is so much unused space. For example next to the network operator. I never liked the Windows Phone indicators because you can´t see them. And now Jolla has the same problem. Especially with the fast battery drain i want to know when my phone need juice.

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Agreed & adding related: There's only 4 on/off switches visible in the settings main screen (great that we can choose which 4), but with this screen size it could be easily made 6. Even better, this quick switch menu could be moved to the top of the notification screen instead of settings screen.

simo ( 2013-12-26 00:37:53 +0300 )edit

@Simon i´m not (only) talking about the ribons. I´m talking about the battery-icon on the home screen.

DerJott ( 2013-12-26 00:41:49 +0300 )edit

WLAN, Bluetooth, Mobile Data, Airplane Mode, GPS. I count five?

Kondou ( 2013-12-26 00:43:07 +0300 )edit

Concerning the battery drain you mentioned, you can find usefull this: https://together.jolla.com/question/597/fix-power-consumption-other-half/

Titanium ( 2013-12-26 00:45:23 +0300 )edit

@Titanium Is this counting for the white one, too?

DerJott ( 2013-12-26 00:49:34 +0300 )edit

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answered 2013-12-28 00:38:10 +0300

Jaakko Roppola gravatar image

I'll try summarizing few things related to both persistent and hidden system information.

Always visible status bar:

  • has an unnecessary performance overhead because it's constantly being updated (consumes system resources) -> we put those resources to better use in whatever you're currently working with.
  • is not always desired in full-screen applications like cameras of video playback for example. In Android, you have to exit the camera app / pause playback to see status bar (or access a menu that allows it)
  • uses space and complicates application implementation due to status bar management (is it allowed in landscape for example and when to hide it)
  • doesn't make the device consume less power or have any better reception :)

Hidden status bar:

  • Is consistently available from any application
  • is dynamically shown on app launch and Home screen access, frequently exposing user to device status
  • can use generous information size to communicate system information to better capture user attention

User can always peek to check the desired information (connection type for example) and if it's wrong, continue to gesture to go to Home (to launch / switch to settings app), or if correct connection is in use, reverse gesture to stay in the app.

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Always visible status bar: you can quickly find out that you have the WLAN/BT turned on/only 10% battery/some app uses GPS needlessly/etc. (what you weren't aware of) With the hidden status bar, you simply won't find it out that quickly. With visible status bar it's at glance. Maybe a choice for users if they want the status bar always visible?

marmistrz ( 2014-01-18 11:10:40 +0300 )edit

There are also some fresh blog posts about the status bar by Jaakko Roppola on his blog here: Part I and Part II.

Alex ( 2014-12-16 20:57:25 +0300 )edit
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answered 2013-12-26 16:26:43 +0300

stezz gravatar image

I will try to ping a UI designer to explain you the reasons why we think this is the best way to go. We are trying to use at best the screen real estate and give you only the information that are the most important without distracting you with less useful ones.

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I agree to keep it short. But isn't it vital to know if you are currently consuming cellular data quota, or are WiFi connected? Battery is the other info I want to have in my view. Maybe it should pop up and stay on display as soon as the level becomes critical.

Stefanix ( 2013-12-27 17:05:36 +0300 )edit
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answered 2013-12-26 00:48:16 +0300

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I don't really agree.

I'm not always having an eye on battery on my android telephone. From time to time when using android I take a second and have a look at battery on the top, in sailfish I have to sacrifice two seconds for doing an additional peek.

This saves some space and isn't much of a hassle to use.

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I agree with you. it is better at least to have the battery indicator in lock screen to check the battery instead of dragging down just for battery and signal.

Rashed Albloushi ( 2014-02-03 06:18:44 +0300 )edit

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