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Pinephone with Sailfish OS?

asked 2019-06-07 12:28:01 +0200

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updated 2020-03-12 10:43:21 +0200

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SailfishOS is listed as a partner project on pine64.org. Does this mean there could be an official port to the upcoming Pinephone? Maemo Leste and LuneOS (FOSS webOS) are both running on the device.


Update 2019-12-28
Saw a video with four other open-source mobile OS running on the Pinephone. Any news on the Sailfish OS port?

Update 2020-01-18
The port of Sailfish OS for the Pinephone makes calls.

Update 2020-03-09

It looks like Pine64 and Jolla got in touch.


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One of the photos seem to be the security code selection for Sailfish OS.

vattuvarg ( 2019-06-07 12:52:30 +0200 )edit

I would like to have a phone like this...

tomas3000 ( 2019-06-07 13:01:40 +0200 )edit

Consider me interested.

LemD ( 2019-06-07 13:17:57 +0200 )edit

bye bye Sony, hello PinePhone. Would be great

dirksche ( 2019-06-07 17:25:24 +0200 )edit

PinePhone Wiki

davekelly ( 2019-06-07 21:54:32 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-09-10 15:27:47 +0200

makarch gravatar image

updated 2019-09-10 15:29:36 +0200

Seems like the port is coming along quite good. :)

SFOS on Pinephone

Mass production is planned for march 2020

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Looking good! :)

sunburnedpenguin ( 2019-09-12 11:08:01 +0200 )edit

video removed

minojolla ( 2020-01-05 14:53:28 +0200 )edit

We can only hope

FLM76 ( 2020-07-19 10:32:00 +0200 )edit

answered 2020-05-12 18:52:55 +0200

NobodyInPerson gravatar image

Alright sailors, keep on asking for official PinePhone support from Jolla, they want to hear it :-)


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not using twitter. but my next phone after j1, which i currently use, will be pinephone. i would definitly buy a jolla license if they officially support it with dalvik and all. if they dont i will switch to ubuntu touch or plasma mobile. easy as that.

kaktux ( 2020-05-13 08:51:38 +0200 )edit

I had to dig up the login to my Jolla account (was last used approximately 6 years ago) to ask for Sailfish X with android app support for the pinephone.

sombrero ( 2020-05-14 02:42:43 +0200 )edit

I would love (and pay for) an official PinePhone support. I already tried the development version and it's very promising. I'm not sure this particular thread/comment section is sufficient to show our interest, but I'm not on twitter. I also hope to see an official Jolla account on the fediverse.

malandrain ( 2020-05-14 08:49:50 +0200 )edit

answered 2019-06-07 13:47:09 +0200

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Don't know if it is going to be official but there was this on twitter:


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the open-source stack (upstream Linux kernel + Mesa open source 3D driver) is the very interesting part of this news (as opposed to yhe classic "special Linux kernel for Android + proprietary blob drivers from manufacturer + Jolla's libhybris hardware abstraction layer")

DrYak ( 2019-06-11 11:58:32 +0200 )edit

Its the old driver problem. If we could have everything open and in the kernel/mesa thats what all SFOS devices would use. Nothing that can be done about it. Its the chip manufacturers that are to blame.

ApB ( 2019-06-11 12:01:44 +0200 )edit

well luckily with the PinePhone there's the Lima reverse engineered driver (for Mali).

And on an un-related question, there are news that AMD is considering licensing the notoriously open-source friendly Radeon cores to ARM embed CPU manufacturers.

(...again. As Qualcomm's Adreno (note the anagram :-P ) is the acquisition of ATI's previous Imageon foray into embed, back when ATI was still a separate company, pre-AMD merger)

DrYak ( 2019-06-11 12:07:44 +0200 )edit

@DrYak the rumors say that samsung will license them. BIg if true but we still don't know the details. Might not be open.

Also. Apart from the GPUs stuff like modems don't have open drivers.

ApB ( 2019-06-11 12:27:00 +0200 )edit

answered 2019-09-12 11:16:58 +0200

sunburnedpenguin gravatar image

The following detail is from September's update:

"I also had a chance to get my first hands-on experience with SailfishOS this month, and I was very positively surprised by how well it runs. My surprise stems from the fact that the UI has always appeared to me to be quite intricate and complex, which had me believe that it was more resource hungry than other OSs. It also uses experimental Lima drivers as opposed to the (currently faster) mali blob. Thankfully when swiping between tabs, opening applications and scrolling through the settings menu I was greeted by smooth OS functions. Adam and Dylan have posted videos showing the performance of the OS that I am including in this post for you to check out. It is my understanding that most of the functionality already available in other OS builds is also present in SailfishOS. I now have high hopes for SailfishOS on our platform, and I hope that the large and thriving community behind this OS will appreciate the unique feature set that the PinePhone brings to the table."

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answered 2019-06-11 10:49:09 +0200

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This is a way better match for Sailfish than Sony! Jolla, when can we purchase a license??? ;)

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Why is the PinePhone a better choice than a Sony?

vattuvarg ( 2019-06-11 12:04:08 +0200 )edit

Because Pine64's philosophy is about openness, choice, community. I thought Jolla's was as well, or am I wrong?

sunburnedpenguin ( 2019-06-11 12:12:10 +0200 )edit

I was just curious, so thank you for answering.

vattuvarg ( 2019-06-11 12:39:49 +0200 )edit

100% spy proff, with physical switches.

wladi ( 2019-12-29 22:03:10 +0200 )edit

Nothing is 100% spy-proof, but the switches adds a layer of security. There are switches on the Pinebook Pro laptop too.

vattuvarg ( 2019-12-30 00:15:03 +0200 )edit

answered 2020-03-11 22:56:53 +0200

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Maybe it will get true.


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Fingers crossed. :)

vattuvarg ( 2020-03-12 02:01:54 +0200 )edit

That would be awesome !

If they also included android app support. I'll buy it for any amount.

as400 ( 2020-03-12 10:37:14 +0200 )edit

Maybe it is time to talk about a full campaign after all?


vattuvarg ( 2020-03-12 11:56:25 +0200 )edit

answered 2019-06-07 20:45:52 +0200

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updated 2019-06-07 20:46:44 +0200

Does anyone know whats behind the nemo/glacierUX?

Is it just some "old" version of mer/SFOS or is it SFOS3 with an open source UI?

Multiwindow on glacier ux

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yeah its basically the latest sailfish with an open source homescreen and a few apps

r0kk3rz ( 2019-06-08 02:31:52 +0200 )edit

answered 2019-12-29 02:38:49 +0200

kongha gravatar image

There is also pinetablet ;).

What I love with the

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answered 2020-03-12 11:00:20 +0200

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I absolutely love the good news of cooperation between Jolla and the pinephone developers, but one thing disturbs me: The phone specifications. To tell the truth the specs are so outdated that I can not figure out what is different from the Intex Aqua Fish which is (almost) 5 years older. Are they seriously expecting us to pay this much money for an completely outdated hardware? At least it should be highest built quality (not like the Aqua Fish with its plastic screen and cam..) but I doubt it.

Compared to the Sony phones there is just idealism that speaks for the phone, but thats not enough for me.

Or is there a new spec out that I'm not aware of?

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I see your point, however is that an answer to the issue? Wouldn't a comment be more suitable?

jollajo ( 2020-03-12 12:03:18 +0200 )edit

I don't mind older hardware as long as it performs to my satisfaction. I used an iPhone 5s for about 5 years and was quite happy with it until Apple decided to drop 32bit support and thus half the apps I paid for. I got Sailfish X in the Xperia X once it left beta and it is working well for me since. I even hear there are happy users of the original Jolla Phone to this day. So, what's to complain about?

That said, I might consider switching to a new device - maybe the PinePhone? - if it gets me roughly the same performance, has Android support, but a better camera.

Kao ( 2020-03-13 01:42:47 +0200 )edit

if it is "only" the community edition and not officially supported i will probably use ubuntu on the phone instead of sailfish.

so - yes - official support plz with dalvik for those few apps that sadly will never make its way to the smaller systems (commute, banking).

Specifications are absolutly fine - especially looking at the price No one really needs that shiny, bigger, better, faster phone with another dozen cameras more. Who gives a fuck if it doesnt hold the record in whatever. It has many other things to offer that other new phones have not - and hopefully will be the phone to replace my J1 (yeah - this is still enough for daily use also - no Sony needed).

Just idealism is bs. Then no phone with mid or low specs would sell.

kaktux ( 2020-04-10 13:09:28 +0200 )edit

There's older hardware...then there's 2gb of RAM and 16gb of onboard storage in 2020. Not even Apple, notorious for trying to limit on device storage to sell iCloud subscriptions offers something that meager.

Oldmil ( 2020-05-12 19:54:25 +0200 )edit

So what? Pinephone specs and what it offers are good for the price. It is more then enough power and storage for every normal usage. So what does a phone need in 2020? 16 front cameras? A processor that sucks the battery dry the fastest? There has not really been a big difference in phone development besides little higher numbers that don't make much of a difference for years.

No one really needs a bigger, better, faster, more shiny new phone, car, wife or husband every 2 or less years.

You don't like it? Then (you) don't get it.

kaktux ( 2020-05-16 11:40:18 +0200 )edit
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