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Pinephone with Sailfish OS?

asked 2019-06-07 12:28:01 +0300

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updated 2020-03-12 10:43:21 +0300

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SailfishOS is listed as a partner project on pine64.org. Does this mean there could be an official port to the upcoming Pinephone? Maemo Leste and LuneOS (FOSS webOS) are both running on the device.

https://www.pine64.org/2019/06/06/june-2019-news-pinephone-pinebook-pro-and-pinetab/

Update 2019-12-28
Saw a video with four other open-source mobile OS running on the Pinephone. Any news on the Sailfish OS port?

Update 2020-01-18
The port of Sailfish OS for the Pinephone makes calls.
https://twitter.com/neochapay/status/1218243855562289152

Update 2020-03-09

It looks like Pine64 and Jolla got in touch.

https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=9086&pid=62012#pid62012

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One of the photos seem to be the security code selection for Sailfish OS.

vattuvarg ( 2019-06-07 12:52:30 +0300 )edit
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I would like to have a phone like this...

tomas3000 ( 2019-06-07 13:01:40 +0300 )edit
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Consider me interested.

LemD ( 2019-06-07 13:17:57 +0300 )edit
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bye bye Sony, hello PinePhone. Would be great

dirksche ( 2019-06-07 17:25:24 +0300 )edit
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PinePhone Wiki

davekelly ( 2019-06-07 21:54:32 +0300 )edit

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answered 2019-09-10 15:27:47 +0300

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updated 2019-09-10 15:29:36 +0300

Seems like the port is coming along quite good. :)

SFOS on Pinephone

Mass production is planned for march 2020

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Looking good! :)

sunburnedpenguin ( 2019-09-12 11:08:01 +0300 )edit

video removed

minojolla ( 2020-01-05 14:53:28 +0300 )edit
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answered 2019-09-12 11:16:58 +0300

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The following detail is from September's update:

"I also had a chance to get my first hands-on experience with SailfishOS this month, and I was very positively surprised by how well it runs. My surprise stems from the fact that the UI has always appeared to me to be quite intricate and complex, which had me believe that it was more resource hungry than other OSs. It also uses experimental Lima drivers as opposed to the (currently faster) mali blob. Thankfully when swiping between tabs, opening applications and scrolling through the settings menu I was greeted by smooth OS functions. Adam and Dylan have posted videos showing the performance of the OS that I am including in this post for you to check out. It is my understanding that most of the functionality already available in other OS builds is also present in SailfishOS. I now have high hopes for SailfishOS on our platform, and I hope that the large and thriving community behind this OS will appreciate the unique feature set that the PinePhone brings to the table."

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answered 2019-06-07 13:47:09 +0300

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Don't know if it is going to be official but there was this on twitter:

https://twitter.com/adampigg/status/1131962696100974592

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the open-source stack (upstream Linux kernel + Mesa open source 3D driver) is the very interesting part of this news (as opposed to yhe classic "special Linux kernel for Android + proprietary blob drivers from manufacturer + Jolla's libhybris hardware abstraction layer")

DrYak ( 2019-06-11 11:58:32 +0300 )edit

Its the old driver problem. If we could have everything open and in the kernel/mesa thats what all SFOS devices would use. Nothing that can be done about it. Its the chip manufacturers that are to blame.

ApB ( 2019-06-11 12:01:44 +0300 )edit
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well luckily with the PinePhone there's the Lima reverse engineered driver (for Mali).

And on an un-related question, there are news that AMD is considering licensing the notoriously open-source friendly Radeon cores to ARM embed CPU manufacturers.

(...again. As Qualcomm's Adreno (note the anagram :-P ) is the acquisition of ATI's previous Imageon foray into embed, back when ATI was still a separate company, pre-AMD merger)

DrYak ( 2019-06-11 12:07:44 +0300 )edit

@DrYak the rumors say that samsung will license them. BIg if true but we still don't know the details. Might not be open.

Also. Apart from the GPUs stuff like modems don't have open drivers.

ApB ( 2019-06-11 12:27:00 +0300 )edit
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answered 2019-06-11 10:49:09 +0300

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This is a way better match for Sailfish than Sony! Jolla, when can we purchase a license??? ;)

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Why is the PinePhone a better choice than a Sony?

vattuvarg ( 2019-06-11 12:04:08 +0300 )edit
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Because Pine64's philosophy is about openness, choice, community. I thought Jolla's was as well, or am I wrong?

sunburnedpenguin ( 2019-06-11 12:12:10 +0300 )edit
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I was just curious, so thank you for answering.

vattuvarg ( 2019-06-11 12:39:49 +0300 )edit
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100% spy proff, with physical switches.

wladi ( 2019-12-29 22:03:10 +0300 )edit
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Nothing is 100% spy-proof, but the switches adds a layer of security. There are switches on the Pinebook Pro laptop too.

vattuvarg ( 2019-12-30 00:15:03 +0300 )edit
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answered 2020-03-11 22:56:53 +0300

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Maybe it will get true.

#10

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Fingers crossed. :)

vattuvarg ( 2020-03-12 02:01:54 +0300 )edit
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That would be awesome !

If they also included android app support. I'll buy it for any amount.

as400 ( 2020-03-12 10:37:14 +0300 )edit
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Maybe it is time to talk about a full campaign after all?

https://together.jolla.com/question/212003/a-jolla-branded-soft-cover-for-pinephone/

vattuvarg ( 2020-03-12 11:56:25 +0300 )edit
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answered 2019-06-07 20:45:52 +0300

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updated 2019-06-07 20:46:44 +0300

Does anyone know whats behind the nemo/glacierUX?

Is it just some "old" version of mer/SFOS or is it SFOS3 with an open source UI?

Multiwindow on glacier ux

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yeah its basically the latest sailfish with an open source homescreen and a few apps

r0kk3rz ( 2019-06-08 02:31:52 +0300 )edit
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answered 2020-03-12 11:00:20 +0300

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I absolutely love the good news of cooperation between Jolla and the pinephone developers, but one thing disturbs me: The phone specifications. To tell the truth the specs are so outdated that I can not figure out what is different from the Intex Aqua Fish which is (almost) 5 years older. Are they seriously expecting us to pay this much money for an completely outdated hardware? At least it should be highest built quality (not like the Aqua Fish with its plastic screen and cam..) but I doubt it.

Compared to the Sony phones there is just idealism that speaks for the phone, but thats not enough for me.

Or is there a new spec out that I'm not aware of?

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I see your point, however is that an answer to the issue? Wouldn't a comment be more suitable?

jollajo ( 2020-03-12 12:03:18 +0300 )edit

I don't mind older hardware as long as it performs to my satisfaction. I used an iPhone 5s for about 5 years and was quite happy with it until Apple decided to drop 32bit support and thus half the apps I paid for. I got Sailfish X in the Xperia X once it left beta and it is working well for me since. I even hear there are happy users of the original Jolla Phone to this day. So, what's to complain about?

That said, I might consider switching to a new device - maybe the PinePhone? - if it gets me roughly the same performance, has Android support, but a better camera.

Kao ( 2020-03-13 01:42:47 +0300 )edit
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answered 2019-12-29 02:38:49 +0300

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There is also pinetablet ;).

What I love with the

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