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Fairphone 3 announced

asked 2019-08-08 10:42:42 +0300

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updated 2019-08-27 14:21:04 +0300

Maus gravatar image

Update: Fairphone 3 was launched today, to be delivered in September 2019.

Is there someone who could have informations about ? The big question : can we imagine a Sailfish release on fairphone 3 ?

https://www.generation-nt.com/fairphone-3-smartphone-ethique-lancement-ifa-actualite-1967471.html (french tech site)

Regarding packaging problems due to the lack of a BIOS-like for ARM platforms, if we suppose that a manufacturer delivers an ARM platform with a "BIOS" ... what is about capabilities to install Sailfish OS as the same way we do for a desktop Linux ?

Is it a sugar dream ?

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Have you looked at the PinePhone?
https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/

Basically a linux single board computer packaged as a smartphone. It will even boot from the microSD card.

vattuvarg ( 2019-08-21 14:40:38 +0300 )edit

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answered 2019-08-28 17:23:07 +0300

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Fairphone 3 and Sailfish could be a match made in heaven and could be beneficial for both Jolla and Fairphone project.

I will buy a fairphone the instant Sailfish OS is going to get official support. I'm not going to buy it and use it with the far-from-fair Google ecosystem.

Please Jolla, start the talks.

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Would you buy a Sailfish X license, if one becomes available for Fairphone 3?

vattuvarg ( 2019-08-28 17:26:51 +0300 )edit
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Yes. I would do that for every decent and recent phone officially supported. But Fairphone especially.

I have a Xperia X now, and although I'm happy with how the device and OS works, it's battery becomes worse every week, and I have the issue that the USB port doesn't hold/grip USB cables anymore, so they fall out easily.

If i'm looking at the number of webshops offering the Xperia XA2, it's decreasing every day. The XA2 Plus and the Ultra are already sold out/gone. I know that there is some work done on supporting the Xperia 10, but as said earlier, the Fairphone and Sailfish is a great match especially because the target audience has a lot similarities.

yomark ( 2019-08-28 18:05:07 +0300 )edit

You can try to clean the USB port. I had the same problem. Much fuzz was at the bottom of the port. After I removed it, the cables did hold again. You can e.g. use a toothpick, but be careful.

foofoo ( 2019-08-28 21:03:36 +0300 )edit
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ok let me put it that way, if there is an official port, I would buy an PF3 phone and a SFOS licence for it. the alternative we have at the moment is xperia variants.

pmelas ( 2019-08-28 21:22:04 +0300 )edit
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Same as pmelas: I am ready to put down my Xperia X and switch to a FP3 asap, buying a now SFOS license for it.

Chap ( 2019-12-09 11:49:53 +0300 )edit
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answered 2019-08-27 18:38:09 +0300

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updated 2019-08-27 21:32:54 +0300

I added the entry for FP3 in the port request thread. Please, consider upvoting it (link) to keep the community interested in porting it and fingers crossed for an official support this time!!!

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To get official support Fairphone has to pay for it. Which i doubt they will. Anyway. The phone is too big for me to care.

ApB ( 2019-08-27 21:52:31 +0300 )edit
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Yes indeed it's very big, that would be the greatest issue for me too. For the official support, I think if they both (Jolla and FP) see much interest, they could retake talks, there were talks three years ago, why not trying today?

d ( 2019-08-27 22:22:45 +0300 )edit
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It's worth mentioning the press conference, timing 45:50 https://youtu.be/hX_47ee5vBo?t=2750

d ( 2019-08-27 22:31:09 +0300 )edit
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A Sailfish X for Fairphone 3 should be possible. ...sold in the Jolla Store.

vattuvarg ( 2019-08-28 13:28:08 +0300 )edit

judging on FP2 SF status, I wouldn't buy it. Will wait for Xperia 10 official port.

remote ( 2019-08-28 13:57:47 +0300 )edit
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answered 2019-09-29 08:19:15 +0300

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I would buy a Fairphone3 with Sailfish OS

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then vote here

pmelas ( 2019-09-29 21:22:42 +0300 )edit
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ok done ;)

dglent ( 2019-09-30 07:08:06 +0300 )edit
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answered 2019-08-08 10:57:36 +0300

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updated 2019-08-21 13:49:34 +0300

Well, an announcement is something different. This is a report on an IT news site about a tweet by a notorious IT product information leaker.

That Fairphone B.V. is about to release something new is no surprise. They were expected to do so after stocks of their model Fairphone 2 have sold out. They even prominently show a teaser on their website for a couple of weeks now, allowing you to subscribe to product news. So, no surprise.

The article concentrates on technical specs like SoC type, RAM size and screen aspect ratio. As most of us know, this can only give a hint about portability of SFOS to this device. But the Fairphone 2 still has one of the most complete community port available, which gives hope for the future.

Update: As @JSEHV already posted a fortnight ago, Fairphone B.V. announces something new for August 27, 2019 but doesn't go into any detail yet. It could be anything. I hope for the best!

To justify more downvotes for this answer: I have a couple of Fairphone products in my family, and I'd of course consider purchasing a Fairphone myself when my JP1301 becomes unusable for whatever reason.

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portabiliy of SFOS

Well, basically all Fairphones have an unlockable bootloader that can run also opensource versions of android (AOSP) perfectly well and they even provide that themselves (their alternative Fairphone Open Source OS).

Sailfish OS relies on libhybris to make hardware adaptation (what officials from Jolla call Baseports). They have currently Baseport 8 (as used by Xperia XA2), perhaps even a baseport 9 in the work (depending on the upcoming devices in their pipeline). And the kernel and drivers on Fairphone 3 are very likely to be compatible with AOSP8 and thus with Jolla's baseport 8.

i.e.: it's probably "only" going to be about porting baseport 8 to the kernel and drivers of FP3. It's not trivial, but well within the capabilities of the community, specially given that we won't need to fight against a manufacturer actively trying to prevent after-market ROMs.

The main question is will Jolla this time manage to have an arrangement with Fairphone to have a Sailfish X for FP3, like they do for Xperias, Geminis and other upcoming devices ? That would help getting the extra bits like the Aliendalvik's LXC and customer support on Zendesk. (At the time of the FP2, Jolla wasn't selling ports themselves, and Fairphone being a small startup couldn't manage to organize paid support).

DrYak ( 2019-08-08 12:01:47 +0300 )edit
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@DrYak I'd agree that both potential partners (Fairphone BV and Jolla oy) are in a better position today than back with the Fairphone 2:

  • Jolla has gained experience with selling Sailfish X
  • Fairphone is launching a new product and the "risk" of supporting Sailfish is probably easier to calculate

Personally, I'd be equally happy with a community port (if I were to own such a phone).

Maus ( 2019-08-08 13:23:37 +0300 )edit

Are the drivers open source? or Blobs? Edit: Apparently Blobs : https://code.fairphone.com/projects/fp-osos/

tortoisedoc ( 2019-08-08 19:53:21 +0300 )edit
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Jolla, with the FP2 there was a really god port. I hope there will be a good port with official port this time! This would make me buy a FP3.

I bought a FP2 with the idea that there will be an official port. I hope this time it will be.

BonoNL ( 2019-08-08 22:44:46 +0300 )edit
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I agree with BonoNL, I was seriously considering FP2 as my escape vehicle from iPhone. I like the idea of fair hardware very much, but still no fan of the Android UX. So I wound up with the original Sailfish X. But FP3 with official Sailfish OS would be perfect as an upgrade, and I'd gladly pay for a new license - I still need that handful of Android apps, and I guess most consumer type users like me feel the same.

Kao ( 2019-08-09 01:01:53 +0300 )edit
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answered 2019-08-11 09:14:39 +0300

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updated 2019-08-11 09:14:45 +0300

Fairphone 3 will be released August 27th

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Discussion about open/alternative operating systems for fp3: https://forum.fairphone.com/t/fp3-fairphone-open-os/52301/26

pasikarkkainen ( 2019-08-30 14:50:00 +0300 )edit
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