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Do you like non open-source SFOS contributions from OMP (Russia)?

asked 2019-12-01 11:52:52 +0200

zemideluxe gravatar image

updated 2019-12-02 08:32:27 +0200

Referring to Jolla blog with Sailfish OS 3.2.0 Torronsuo there a core elements of the software improvements also done by the russian software developers from Open Mobile Platform (OMP):

"Warm thanks to our partner OMP for the support and for co-developing many of the core improvements with Jolla for Torronsuo."

To be honest I don't now much more about OMP despite that they are from Russia and are developing SFOS based AuroraOS for russian and maybe Chinese market (link).

Both countries are known for their malignant IT strategies and will do in my opinion many things to find their own ways in collecting big user data.

So is there an impact on SailfishOS and our hope and trust in it's independence and privacy of our user data or not?

Afaik the contributions of OMP are not open source:

"Related to your question, we only accept source code level submissions to Sailfish OS. All of the code included in Sailfish OS is thoroughly reviewed by Jolla and can be reviewed by our software licensees. This way we maintain a chain-of-trust between all involved parties.

Whether particular code contribution is Open Source, depends on how the code itself and its dependencies are licensed."

answered James Noori to this question on Jolla blog to the release of Torronsuo.

So do you like it?

What do you think?

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Jolla is small company. They need all the help they can get, and if they get source code level contributions they can review and decide whether to keep or reject, then I guess I'm happy with it. They have lot to watch after for though, as none of us would like to see any shady code pieces in the core of the OS. I just hope Jolla is able to make good choices.

Lupin ( 2019-12-01 12:32:30 +0200 )edit

yeah, concerns may raise but what can they do - like @Lupin mentioned...

best would be some EU raised (open) funding boosting sw development, even for individuals, mandating FOSS components as result...

or from private sector - like Open Society Foundations

zlutor ( 2019-12-01 13:01:46 +0200 )edit

Some OMP contributions are open source, they need to full fill the code license anyway when contributing. You can see various MR in https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core are coming from people employed by OMP. You can monitor their contributions you like.

That being said, they of course also contribute to the closed part of SailfishOS, and this we cannot look at, as from contributions of Jolla employees.

Damien Caliste ( 2019-12-01 16:36:48 +0200 )edit

I am not overly concerned because I do not buy into the 80s „evil empire“ narrative the same way I do not believe an EU planned economy will be the ultimate solution.

Kopekenscheich ( 2019-12-02 06:45:48 +0200 )edit

By the way, OMP opened a vacancy of Chromium based browser developer.

AlexP ( 2019-12-02 07:08:31 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-12-02 09:01:55 +0200

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Yes, i like it! Ability to contribute to sfos is great!

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Hi coderus, I appreciate your work very much! Big part of Jolla and SailfishOS is the work of the community. That's the charming thing about it. People working together for an independent mobile OS to get rid as far as possible from the influence of data hungry US companies like Google, Apple, Microsoft or governments. To do it the independent way. Even if Open Mobile Platform sounds like that, it's for me not an NGO. It's a company that belongs to the influence of Russian government.

Most of us don't have private relationships, so in the end it's a about trust. In- an outside of the community. So the only chance we have, is do let the community do it for us. Therefore we need codes be open-source , that the control of the community can take place. That's a claim even for Jolla itself, which wasn't heard completely so far.

I cannot do it, because I am not a coder, but I can try to discuss it as part of the community :)

zemideluxe ( 2019-12-02 10:26:15 +0200 )edit

what data? sfos is not collecting any data. also there are no system trackers for collecting data. you can always tcpdump to check if something is coming out.

coderus ( 2019-12-02 10:35:25 +0200 )edit

answered 2019-12-02 10:52:07 +0200

Filip K. gravatar image

How can I be sure than any company is not under influence of some government or their agencies or even one malicius person? There are people in all governments and some people are simply corrupted. Such people will find a way to hide their activity.

Personally I trust Jolla much more than Android and MacOS. I'm here :) not there. I'm sure they have good code reviews before they accept it.

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answered 2019-12-02 11:06:16 +0200

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updated 2019-12-02 11:08:12 +0200

As long as Jolla is not working fully open source and as we trust Jolla (to some extent :P), I see no problem and indeed great potential in having OMP contributing to SFOS including non OSS. How would OMP contribute open source to some non-open source packages???

I think the question is non-sense until SFOS is not fully open source. The real question to me is: is OMP preventing Jolla from opening more components?

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