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UX/UI Usability/logic, more like Nokia N9 when swiping

asked 2014-02-02 17:07:34 +0300

martinrusler gravatar image

updated 2014-02-03 01:15:30 +0300

In order to put an app in the background on the Jolla (and the Nokia N9), one can swipe from the right or left edge of the phone. On the N9, the foreground app stays solid and is pushed as a sheet to the side, and the multitasking grid of running apps is shown underneath. On the Jolla, nothing is following the movement of the finger, but instead, the foreground app is faded, so one can see the multitasking grid.

Why not have both? That would feel much more logic to me:

Let the foreground app slide with the finger movement and also get transparent gradually.

Edit: Changed "fade" to "get transparent gradually".

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yes, i think with this behaviour especially new users, who are not familar with an ui like this, would much more understand what they are doing. and peeking would be possible as was before. but we should proof if this looks good, i can't imagine how it would look like

Zandi ( 2014-02-02 17:57:08 +0300 )edit

I know what you mean, and would be interesting to see. The transparent peak though proved very useful for me yesterday, when wanting to type a number from my missed calls to type into a text message. Sure, I could have used copy/paste, but I love those little "can't do that on an iPhone" moments! :)

FishesWillLaugh ( 2014-02-02 21:46:26 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-02-02 18:54:10 +0300

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I think I've read sometime ago, that this card like behaviour is protected due to Nokia licences. You should keep in mind that Nokias MeeGo Harmattan UI was not open source software. But any kind of more clearly fading to multitasking view could be helpful.

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Not to forget that the Harmattan UI is still in use on the Asha devices.

pycage ( 2014-02-02 19:51:25 +0300 )edit

A link to this claim would be useful.

martinrusler ( 2014-07-26 21:44:53 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-02-02 20:48:29 +0300

GuSec gravatar image

I would like to add that Jolla's implementation is actually preferable in some circumstances. Namely, it enables you too peek at the whole screen beneath. A "slide"-implementation would limit the peeking to those areas that you actually swipe from occlusion.

I like it the gradual transparency, and was happily surprised when I discovered it!

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think the current behaviour is excellent. wouldn't want it changed

teun ( 2014-02-02 23:28:39 +0300 )edit

I mis-termed my post. What I meant by "fade" is actually gradual transparency.

martinrusler ( 2014-02-03 01:13:30 +0300 )edit

answered 2015-03-14 01:49:35 +0300

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I used to have a similar point of view, but as I was using Jolla more and more, soon I grew to prefer it over Harmattan's. The reason is that it allows you to see both the app and home screen completely.

Here is my use case. I always surf the Net with Firefox (for a number of reasons). It has a (kinda persistent) flaw: if the connection is lost, it shows the "connection lost" message, even if 90% of page was already downloaded and I was already able to read the site. This pisses me off to no end when I'm traveling with underground and cellular signal appears and disappears repeatedly. It's always a race between departing train and the loading page. But, if I cancel downloading the page before the "connection lost" message pops up, the already loaded info stays on screen and I can read it until I arrive on the next station.

So, here is what I do: as the train departs, I swipe Firefox sideways until it's 50% opaque and watch the cellular indicator on the home screen and the loading indicator of Firefox simultaneously. If the signal is lost, I just move my finger back to the edge of the screen to restore Firefox and click the X button. If Jolla was behaving like N9, I would

1) have to swipe the app to specific direction in order to see the signal strength indicator (i.e. it's impossible to "partially minimize" the app from left to right in such a way that the indicator is seen - only from right to left)

2) not see a (considerable) part of the app screen, because it is moved outside of the screen.

So, while the MeeGo's method is unarguably more intuitive, the Jolla's is more effective and practical. I am the kind of person who would spend a week learning Vim to become able to edit text more efficiently later, so counter-intuitive UI means nothing for me.

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You seem to have misunderstood my point: The foreground app should follow the finger AND become transparent. I edited my question to reflect this more than one year ago.

martinrusler ( 2015-03-14 22:52:42 +0300 )edit

>You seem to have misunderstood my point: The foreground app should follow the finger AND become transparent

Uh... actually, I believe I did understand you point. Your suggestion may solve the #1 problem I described, but #2 will remain. I want to see the whole app together with the home screen, not just the left/right half.

ScumCoder ( 2015-03-15 19:13:59 +0300 )edit

@ScumCoder Sorry for that, I guess I misunderstood you a bit. In any case, I don't think your #2 is important. Why would I need to see the whole foreground app when I try to peek into something else? The important thing, is to be able to get quickly back. I guess we just disagree on this :).

martinrusler ( 2015-03-15 22:52:25 +0300 )edit
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