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App request: Client for Telegram

asked 2014-02-04 00:17:25 +0300

Malkavian gravatar image

updated 2017-07-11 22:12:57 +0300

h.berd gravatar image

Telegram is a libre software client (with closed distributed servers) for Instant Messaging. It focus on privacy an encryption, it's and it will be free of charge, and uses an open protocol. It tries to look similar to Whatsapp to make easier a transition and uses mobile-numbers for contact manangement.

There are official clients for Android and IOs, and unofficial ones for GNU/Linux, MacOS, Windows, Windows Phone, and web.

https://telegram.org/apps

Edit: 11.07.2017 (h.berd);

There are two (workaround)options now:

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I would like a native Telegram app for Sailfish OS as well. I know security might not be as good as they advertise, but in my opinion it's better then giving al your personal info to Facebook, since they own WhatsApp as wel.

Jozz ( 2014-02-21 00:36:58 +0300 )edit
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A Threema port would be nice also. At the moment in Germany it looks like Threema is more popular (in the press) as Telegram. And I don't trust an russian company more as an us company. Threema is lokated in the swizerland. That sounds a little bit better.

skull77 ( 2014-02-22 15:50:48 +0300 )edit
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But Telegram is Opensource and well documented. On Threema you only have trust.

Sailor ( 2014-02-22 22:43:10 +0300 )edit
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But were is the different? Telegram is opensource, but the servers are in russia. Russia is not known for its trustworthiness. So perhaps the source of Telegram is trustworth, but what is with the company who ownes it? It's a Facebook clone. Threema is closedsource, but its servers are in the swizerland and its a small company which i trust (for the moment).

skull77 ( 2014-02-22 23:02:23 +0300 )edit

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answered 2017-07-15 01:46:47 +0300

h.berd gravatar image

@coderus I saw that your cloned github project of sailorgram is under active development. It seems every verson is in alpha stage, but maybe the community can help you with some improvements like translation or feedback. Can you give us a short description about the roadmap etc. pls? thanks for your work and all the best!

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development is stopped

yuri ( 2017-07-16 12:51:32 +0300 )edit

not really. Latest commit by CODeRUS 13 days ago as you can see on github. Hope he changed his opinion.

h.berd ( 2017-07-16 14:22:00 +0300 )edit
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answered 2017-07-11 20:57:38 +0300

h.berd gravatar image

Recently there are problems with the stable version from ade on warehouse for me. I can record audio messages and send them to anyone, but only android users seem too be able to play them. WP and IOS users can't hear my audio messages.

Is there a fix for this problem?

Please Devs have a look at sailorgram!!! It's a good and necessary app for SFOS.

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answered 2017-05-16 10:40:19 +0300

paolomi gravatar image

Now python programmers can make easily a native telegram client: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Telethon/

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Interesting :)

Dylan Van Assche ( 2017-05-16 13:51:43 +0300 )edit
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answered 2017-05-11 22:29:53 +0300

h.berd gravatar image

I reopened this request, because we need a new developer(team) for the telegram/sailorgram app.

As stated in this thread https://together.jolla.com/question/160188/cant-open-sailorgram-after-update-to-iijoki/ there is no active development anymore.

Dax abandoned the project sailorgram and jollagram wasn't ever usable for me and many other users.

There are two (workaround)options now:

  • you can use sailorgram-harbour (github) from @coderus which is a beta and has connection problems for some users and no bugfixes till now
  • you can use the recompiled stable package from ade (warehouse), which is not under development

So, please Devs take care of this important project. Telegram is an important app for many sfos users and I believe it's only a matter of time till the recompiled version from ade will stop working without some changes.

Thank you!

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proposal, i think you may add on the above thread a list of actual app which work .
and add a note about the sailorgram situation (maybe for the others too).
I think that the above thread miss this kind of info.
In this way people may have a short opinion about the existing solution.
Just short, then they will may come to your answer for more details i think

cemoi71 ( 2017-05-12 10:09:05 +0300 )edit
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Seconded! Telegram is essential. I use the recompiled stable Sailorgram, and I'm just hoping it will keep working as long as possible.

bocephus ( 2017-05-12 10:12:58 +0300 )edit

Are there any news? I think it's really necessary to have a native app (community-ports don't have the possibility to use androids Telegram or Whatsapp...)

tva ( 2017-06-10 14:36:34 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-09-02 16:48:30 +0300

Kabouik gravatar image

While I love Whatsapp integration in CepiPerez's Whatsup, and the way he designed the interface, I'm slowly starting to move towards something more secure, and more durable since Whatsup's development seems compromised (see the application thread on TMO).

Telegram might be an option, but I find Jollagram to be a bit incomplete in comparison to Whatsup (and it's not developping fast, is it?) and for some reason I have trouble using Sailorgram: it crashes randomly when my phone is sleeping in my pocket, and I don't get any notifications despite the option being ticked.

I stumbled upon Open Whisper Systems while browsing Stack Exchange, and it seems quite promising, as it also provides calls. That could be very interesting in my opinion. Would it be possible to develop a native Sailfish application with that, or at least tell the current developpers that there is demand (but, is there, except me?).

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I think that the best way to make your proposal noticed is to not hide it as an answer in a thread about something else, but to create a thread of its own ;)

Orologiaio ( 2015-09-02 21:06:48 +0300 )edit
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I would follow @Orologiaio's suggestion :-) SailorGram is unde development and notifications when in background are not supported yet (but the developer is working on it). So you have to give it a bit time :-)

alain ( 2015-09-03 07:41:55 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-07-08 14:58:30 +0300

updated 2016-03-17 13:25:41 +0300

There is a new Telegram app made by Dax, the same author of WebPirate... it's called Sailorgram. Development is going quite fast, and it's already miles ahead anything else we've seen on Sailfish so far... give it a try!

EDIT: Version 0.80-2 is out

Changelog:

Notifications will be deleted if a message is readed from another client
It's possible to send multiple files from file picker (thanks goes to Maldela for the implementation)
Secret chats are now visible in Sailorgram's cover
It's possible to reply to messages
SearchBox will be scrolled along with the chats
Searchbox's hidden by default ( thanks to mentaljam for the implementation :) )
SearchBox's visible setting is persistent
Implemented message forwarding
Messages can be marked as readed directly from the Chat page
Moved "Settings" and "Profile" menu in Contacts page
Profile images are now clickable ( thanks to mentaljam for the implementation :) )
Pinch to zoom enabled in Image Viewer ( thanks to mentaljam for the implementation :) )
Quoted media messages are now visible
Unified single chats, groups and secret chats components
Location type messages will be opened with Maps application
Implemented Webpage media messages
Implemented Venue media messages
Deleted 0.5x and 0.6x legacy code
Removed more legacy code from media messages, improved appereance and behavior
Improved connection reliability
Redesigned Profile page
Redesigned Contacts page
Fixed an unwanted newline when sending messages using the enter key
Polished UI
Updated LibQTelegram and TelegramQML to upstream
Minor Fixes
Updated Localizations
REV2: Improved message forwarding
REV2: Fixed Audio recording
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Thanks for telling. Looks great. Will try it :)

Malkavian ( 2015-07-08 16:24:42 +0300 )edit
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Can confirm, looks to be the best Telegram client for Sailfish!

Naveen ( 2015-07-09 11:13:14 +0300 )edit

yup, no connection issues as in jolagramm and it is currently in development, while jolagramm seems to be on hold

pawel ( 2015-07-22 15:04:09 +0300 )edit

Yes, this one really looks good. Jollagram isn't useable and in comparison really isn't an option at all...

Alex-S ( 2015-07-23 16:08:02 +0300 )edit
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When will it be available in the Jolla store?

JSE ( 2016-01-30 12:26:46 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-03-11 13:28:09 +0300

M.Bln. gravatar image

Seems a few people work already on that topic: I found also this here... http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92741

Maybe the Devs can join their affords to minimize doubled work!

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From what I follow these guys ^ are doing the correct work of including it in telepathy which means better alerts !

pavi ( 2015-03-12 13:43:16 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-02-25 10:24:16 +0300

zash1958 gravatar image

I am also using "Jollagram" from the warehouse. The native Sailfish app works very well and so far this is enough for me.

Why using an android app?

And PLEASE NO political discussions about liberty in countries like Russia. This is a very bad habit to talk about a country where You do not live and work. And Your knowledge is only from things You have heard and read in some newspapers and magazines. And also not fair against the people there!

I live in Germany AND Russia and will shut up with any commonts about Liberty here AND there

Back to "Jollagram/Telegram !

Just my 5 cents

Zash

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btw, I think the Telegram servers are now situated in Berlin, Germany.

hwesselmann ( 2015-02-25 16:25:49 +0300 )edit

at least their HQ is

Blizzz ( 2015-03-20 14:34:35 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-02-25 06:18:02 +0300

ClumsyRooster gravatar image

updated 2015-02-25 20:21:08 +0300

and why not looking to peerio ?

https://peerio.com/ , it's open source : https://github.com/PeerioTechnologies/ , and they seems to believe that privacy is important...

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answered 2015-02-24 18:01:27 +0300

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updated 2015-02-24 18:01:50 +0300

Bad News. The messages are not encrypted in memory and apparently not even on disk. Perhaps it is fixable on the Jolla`s solution! :)

More info: http://blog.zimperium.com/telegram-hack/

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hacking an application by gaining root access it not make any sense to me. If you hack the whole device you may read what's in memory for any application.

tvicol ( 2015-02-25 16:34:12 +0300 )edit

I guess that the main idea was to show that locally the messages are not stored in an encrypted form, as Telegram claims to do. It is true that you can read everything if you are root, however if you stored your data encrypted you should read just the encrypted data :) and not the clear message.

ruga ( 2015-02-25 16:43:46 +0300 )edit

Unless the encrypted data is never decrypted on the device, the messages will be plain text at some point. If malicious program gets root on the device, it certainly can also get hold of the decryption keys and decrypt the messages. malicious program with root priviledges can access any data you can see

I have hard time decrypting messages in my head, even if the encryption method is ROT-13, not to mention RSA or similar. This finding is non-issue IMO.

japa-fi ( 2015-03-01 11:03:22 +0300 )edit
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