Downloadable map-data and offline turn by turn navigation in Maps [answered]

I wouldn't mind to pay for this up to 10€ for the app and extra money for offline maps. Like for example europe for 50€. Or DACH for 25€. Have a look at Sygic shop for price comparisions.

I also wouldn't mind to pay some for offline maps. Would be super handy when you're abroad and have no data connection or don't want to pay criminal charges for data roaming.

Nokia Drive is not free. Those phones getting it without separate payment have the price included into phone price. I agree this feature is needed. Smartphone while roaming is too often useless as "every" software requires data connection.

This is definately needed feature in the Maps app of Jolla. Priority should be given to turn-by-turn voice navigation (to make maps usable while driving), and then the ability to download maps for a spesific country for example for offilne use.

Good, that Jolla is already thinking about this ;)

I'm ready to pay reasonable price for the offline maps feature.

I prefer OpenStreetMap to alternatives, so I'm currently using Navit (easiest to install from F-Droid store) with Europe's maps downloaded. I'd also prefer the option to use OpenStreetMap content in the official Maps application instead of HERE.

@ortylp rhat warning has no bearing to the issue at hand; the question / issue here (sic!) is that.SailfishOS doesn't currently provide off-line turn-by-turn voice navigation, and that's what we want. I don't care who/what the maps provider is, just need to have modern navigation features in my mobile device.

Although I could definitely use something like this, I think this should be left to third party providers, like somebody porting one of opensource desktop ones or one of the navigation providers supporting Jolla or Android apps. I believe that Jolla should concentrate on OS itself.

@miska Jolla made an agreement with Appello to create their Maps application, it should be them to do it, not Jolla itself! ;)

Actually I failed to see the purpose of the current maps app. Online, tile-based maps which wouldn't even use the compass for correct orientation for me is hardly usable. Also, OSM maps are more detailed and up-to-date, at least for the Netherlands. Android app OsmAnd~ is a nice fallback for now.

really need Here map offline mode like Nokia maps does ! Dont forget old customer of Nokia. Thank for your attention, otherwise, i should leave Jolla ! I don't want add another map software from Android store uninstalled or Jolla store !

@redge73 you can use OsmAnd~ which is open source, free, offline, vector based, with navigation and you don't need to register anything anywhere. And works great on Jolla.

@Fuzillogic but OsmAnd does not work natively on SailfishOS, and thats what this question is all about; native offline navigation to Jolla from (map provider can be anyone, and the app can be made by 3rd-party but it has to run on SailfishOS to give us the perfect UX for Maps. It is actually astonishing what we already have, cause first it seemed that anything Nokia had on mobile went to M$, but the Here-maps is what we have, even if not the whole package.

@jjaone I'm aware OsmAnd is an Android app. And as mentioned, I regard it as fallback option for now. Indeed (all) you'll need AlienDalvik installed, but I can't see the privacy harm in that, other than AD using Google's DNS...

Very needed. I still need to bring my N9 with me when I'm abroad to use offline maps. Don't need maps that much at home since I know where I've to go there. I also would be ready to pay for HERE offline maps.

@Fuzzillogic When question is abt a feature that we want natively supported (,offline turn-by-turn navigation in.Jolla Maps) an Android-based workaround is hardly a valid answer.

Has the question changed? It now mentions caching. I do not want caching; I want proper, downloadable, manageable maps for entire countries.

If it's just caching my vote will be removed and this will be down voted. Caching is useless.

@aegis In my view this was orginally about turn-by-turn voice navigation and downloadble offilne map-data for Maps app, so I edited the title and description accordingly. Hope it's ok now?

@jjaone Thanks. That's how I remembered this question. This raises another question about together though... that of editing questions after they have been voted on.

A really nice solution would be Open Streets Maps based native Jolla navigation system which would avoid a lot of advertising clutter as per Google Maps. Richard

@aegis Well IMO not.a big problem, questions get adjusted and refined and that's ok, as long as rhey don't change too much.. ;)

@aegis You should receive notifications when the question was changed, so you can always retract your vote if you don't like a new wording.

@aegis@jjaone sorry, my bad, I tried to adjust the question to an objection I read here, but I chose a bad wording. Thanks to jjaone for tweaking it further.

@richardski I can support your point of way in theory, but OSM surprisingly suck for my area (second biggest city in Italy), Here is much more dependable. If we can have one without losing the other, or OSM gets significantly improved, I'll be fine.

OSM maps suck a bit for me in West Yorkshire, UK also. They've been getting better over the years but there's still gaps and missing roads. The one advantage they do have is the Open Cycle Maps versions with gradients. As long as you ignore the missing roads, as a cyclist the gradients are quite handy and some apps will account for gradients.

HERE maps don't have that info. It would be fantastic to be able to swap out the mapping data.

Just installed Navit from F-Droid and found it a bit slow compared to the Jolla map application, but otherwise it's quite good with support for offline OSMs. I wonder if it would be possible to port Navit into a native Jolla application to get better performance?

I must say that the HERE solution is the best and it should be what Jolla is aiming for, no point in going backwards. Google's maps aren't even verified like the Navtec maps are, here in Sydney I have numerous examples of the Google directions sending you down one way streets and turning where it is not allowed.

The current solution is less than optimal and I cannot see where I can change from Imperial measurements to Metric !!. The UI is not as intuitive as the HERE solution and both Drive and Pedestrian modes are necessary.

Yes, I worked for Nokia and have worked closely with Navtec on their traffic solutions etc here in Australia.

This should be a comment, not an answer ;)

@bmwebb: there's a workaround using the terminal: http://www.jollatides.com/2013/12/16/how-to-tweak-jolla-system-locale/ But I agree that there should be a better way to change this.

I would just like some sort of explanation why HERE maps is so basic at the moment. I mean that it's not Jolla software, Jolla must have licensed it from Nokia. That in turn means they must have gone with some sort of stripped-down, cheaper license, so the question is, why did they buy a Ferrari with the engine and extras of a VW Golf. Furthermore, Jolla can't add features themselves but only by licensing them from Nokia. Is Jolla going to buy a more expensive license for phones that are already sold?

@bennypr0fane here is another post where you can find answer from @Aaron McCarthy

https://together.jolla.com/question/39734/bug-jolla-maps-does-not-update-the-current-direction-nor-the-covered-distance-as-i-travel/?answer=40571#post-id-40571

@Kari: not really. It only says: "features are currently limited". It doesn't say why and what could be/will be done about it. All we know now is that compared to what the latest Nokia maps software would normally stand for (i.e. best on the market), what we have on Jolla is a huge letdown.

Well I was looking the next sentence i.e. maps is not intended to be navigation application, which I consider surprising information. May be Jolla will release dedicated navigation application like Lumia phones have i.e. Drive app.

We have not seen answer from Jolla, who's intellectual property is old Nokia Drive application atm and is it possible to port Drive to Jolla at all. Nokia Drive and Map map software wasn't a perfect solution. Sometimes road connections broken, Categories messed up and recalculating route too slow. Google Map data and object info is updated faster and OSM is really good solution, but in general still prefer N9 maps.

So we need up to date vector maps with good accommodation information and route/favorites management in computer.