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Downloadable map-data and offline turn by turn navigation in Maps [answered]

asked 2013-12-24 18:17:59 +0200

updated 2015-07-13 15:05:58 +0200

simo gravatar image

Nokia Drive is one of the best offline turn-by-turn gps navigation systems out there, and it comes for free. The Jolla Maps app is based on the same framework (HERE Maps from Nokia), so I'd really like it to be fully usable in offline mode (ability to download maps for specific countries to device and have turn-by-turn voice navigation). This is essential when traveling abroad or in low-signal areas where mobile data connection is not available/too expensive, and I hope it is already on your roadmap.

Edit 11.5.2014: Answer "We're thinking about it :)" has been here for a while (since the Christmas). A lot of votes both to the question, comments and the answer. Any updates, Jolla? Worth a roadmap tag?

Edit 06.10.2014: There are another 207 votes on this related wiki post

Edit 19.5.2014: Cloud-based HERE services like synchronisation (via Nokia or even Jolla Account?) of favourite places and routes should also be implemented.

Edit 7.7.2015: Quotation from answer suggested s correct, the time gap mentioned is 6 months ago: "We aspire to offer this feature in the shortest time possible, however I don't see any possibility at the moment that this would materialize in a native form at least until next January."- Removed correct answer tag for this, looking forward for an update to the answer

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I wouldn't mind to pay for this up to 10€ for the app and extra money for offline maps. Like for example europe for 50€. Or DACH for 25€. Have a look at Sygic shop for price comparisions.

Morpog ( 2013-12-24 18:29:21 +0200 )edit
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I also wouldn't mind to pay some for offline maps. Would be super handy when you're abroad and have no data connection or don't want to pay criminal charges for data roaming.

Winfried ( 2013-12-24 21:43:06 +0200 )edit
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Nokia Drive is not free. Those phones getting it without separate payment have the price included into phone price. I agree this feature is needed. Smartphone while roaming is too often useless as "every" software requires data connection.

Penguin ( 2013-12-24 22:19:20 +0200 )edit
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This is definately needed feature in the Maps app of Jolla. Priority should be given to turn-by-turn voice navigation (to make maps usable while driving), and then the ability to download maps for a spesific country for example for offilne use.

Good, that Jolla is already thinking about this ;)

foss4ever ( 2013-12-25 06:45:16 +0200 )edit
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I'm ready to pay reasonable price for the offline maps feature.

avhakola ( 2013-12-25 22:50:14 +0200 )edit

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answered 2017-12-02 20:24:54 +0200

olf gravatar image

updated 2017-12-02 20:27:32 +0200

IMO, this feature request is obsolete (since H2/2017):

  • The SailfishOS native apps ModRana (from Jolla Store or OpenRepos) and Poor Maps are both quite capable and work nicely with offline map data locally provided by OSM Scout Server.

  • The Android app OSMand~ (from F-Droid app store) is much more feature rich than Here Maps / Here WeGo Maps.

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As this question is about a native app, I think your point with OSMand is not valid. However I agree, that current implementation of OSM Scout server with poor maps gl from openrepos is a very capable solution.

naytsyrhc ( 2018-02-01 23:33:21 +0200 )edit
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answered 2017-08-17 00:38:29 +0200

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OSM Scout Server is a possible alternative for offline maps and routine to HERE maps, and to Google Maps "Save to SD card" feature. Its data usage on the uSD card is about the same as Google Maps.

It's a server (using data from open street maps) that locally run inside your phone and can be used as a possible source for maps, for routing and for search results in a few software - currently supported as a source in Poor Maps and modRana.


Another solution is navit, a satnav software optimized for smartphones. It can use several types of maps, among other from open street maps.

Its data usage on the uSD card is lower than OSM Scout Server and Google Maps.

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answered 2016-10-22 05:23:49 +0200

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Here WeGo Nokia Maps Android 4 app with offline mode and map download for free available on Jolla Store.

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Unfortunately, exactly this app (which worked fine since the glory Symbian days) seems to have a compatibility issue with the Alien Dalvik layer in Sailfish on Jolla 1 wit the latest update: https://together.jolla.com/question/148900/here-wego-update-2010806-doesnt-install-on-jolla-1/

ziellos ( 2016-10-22 11:16:57 +0200 )edit
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Previous version still works well though. Its available via the APK site.

timearp ( 2016-10-22 11:23:23 +0200 )edit
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Here WeGo is a pretty good navigation app indeed, but this topic is mostly people asking these features for the native navigation app "Maps" and I don't undestand why this has been selected as the correct answer. These features has been asked (and still missing) since the launch event of the first Jolla Phone in the end of 2013 and suggesting using Android apps doesn't help those who haven't or can't install Alien Dalvik on their phone (like users of community ports of SFOS).

avhakola ( 2016-10-22 21:32:48 +0200 )edit
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Please stop marking your own answers as "correct", unless it was you who asked the original question.

ScumCoder ( 2016-10-28 18:47:50 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-03-30 14:42:06 +0200

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Following up on this, I see now that the HERE maps is available for all android phones and now also for apple devices. It offers offline maps on both, turn by turn navigation if driving and also offers directions using public transit (if in one of the supported cities) - and all of this for FREE. Since literally every major platform has it for free, is there any reason Sailfish cant get it now? I know license costs were an issue before, but its free to the world now. Can Jolla not get these permissions from HERE (Nokia) and build these features into the native maps app?

As with others, I have the android version of here maps installed, but I would really really love to use the native version more. However because I have limited data allowance and use public transport (in London), I find myself using the android version of HERE much more than native maps.

If would be awesome if someone from the Jolla team can provide an update.

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build these features into the native maps app?

Jolla did address this once before - the Maps application is not Nokia HERE. It is a 3rd party (Appello) application that uses HERE positioning services, which gives Sailfish access to map data and rich location information - but not to any navigation data or services. So it isn't simply a question of adding functionality to the existing app.

So it isn't simply a question of updating the code a bit.

And Appello have abandoned HERE for their mapping applications, now preferring OpenStreetMap, so I suspect we won't find them updating Maps either.

strongm ( 2015-03-31 11:12:02 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-02-17 19:44:46 +0200

Tetsuo gravatar image

FYI, OpenStreetMap last update integrate a point to point navigation for car, foot, bicycle. http://www.openstreetmap.org

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Two of the three routers they use, MapQuest Open and OSRM, are available in Poor Maps as well.

otsaloma ( 2015-02-17 21:31:08 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-02-15 14:27:45 +0200

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It's already now possible to install the actual HERE release (1.1.410 wk07) via the app store 1mobile market for free. I did it yesterday with my and my wife's Jolla. It's doing a really good job. A lot faster and more stable then Beta 220. You can download the store following the link:

1mobile

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or just download HERE from google play store with this app https://codingteam.net/project/googleplaydownloader

ahjolinna ( 2015-02-15 19:42:31 +0200 )edit

@ahjolinna the link is broken

DarkTuring ( 2017-12-02 22:45:14 +0200 )edit

here is the new link: https://framagit.org/tuxicoman/googleplaydownloader (sorry about this late response)

you can also use yalp store: https://github.com/yeriomin/YalpStore/

ahjolinna ( 2018-02-16 00:18:55 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-02-15 13:41:39 +0200

simo gravatar image

updated 2015-02-15 14:52:15 +0200

There's been a couple of answers offering HERE Beta for Android as an alternative. Unfortunately now that HERE has reached a stable stage (coming out of beta), Nokia has made the new version available only via Play Store and Samsung app store. The official version supports Android 4.1 and later. Android layer on Jolla is version 4.1, but Jolla does not officially support these app stores. Our options:

  • If you're still able to find apk for the Beta from a reliable source, that should still work. The last beta version is 220
  • Some of us might have the apk downloaded directly from here.com/beta/android (earlier official source). DIT Sailors!
  • Latests Beta should be available in some stores on Aptoide marketplace. These stores must be manually added before Aptoide search finds the app in them
  • Unofficially, it's also possible to install Play Services on Jolla, enabling installing Play Store and getting HERE from there. As soon as someone tests with the latest official app, let us know if it works
  • It's possible that Nokia expands the availability later to some other stores - keep your eyes open. The more of us asks for that, the better
  • EDIT: latest (not beta) might also be available unofficially in other marketplaces like 1mobile
  • EDIT: lifting up this from a comment by coderus, offering another easy, unofficial way: http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/?id=com.here.app.maps

HERE Maps Beta was (...is) a great alternative, including HERE Drive voice navigation. If you've already installed it, let's hope it just keeps working. While waiting for navigation app for Sailfish...

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Google Play still working on Jolla Evozi still working on Jolla

http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/?id=com.here.app.maps

coderus ( 2015-02-15 14:16:25 +0200 )edit
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Another way to get the app may be the following:

  • All you need is an android phone with Google account and the free app "Super Backup" by MobileIdea Studio installed. By using this app you can backup every installed free app as an .apk-file.

  • Move this .apk-file to your Jolla and install.

  • I´ve tried it out with several naviapps before Here and it worked as well.

silta ( 2015-02-15 14:18:25 +0200 )edit

why you need another android phone if you can just download apk from play using evozi? :D

coderus ( 2015-02-15 14:19:44 +0200 )edit

I doesn´t know about the possibility to using evozi. I wrote my comment while you are posting yours. Of course, your way is much more easier. Thanks!

silta ( 2015-02-15 14:27:25 +0200 )edit
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Just downloaded and installed (updated) to the newest HERE and it seems to be working well.

raketti ( 2015-02-15 14:35:14 +0200 )edit
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answered 2014-10-26 05:56:23 +0200

Sanjay Mehta gravatar image

Official Nokia Here Maps for Android released for public beta. Link to apk

Note that I couldn't download this directly on Jolla. Had to download to a desktop, and copy across to the micro SD card.

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I downloaded it on my Jolla, without problems.

torcida ( 2014-10-26 10:28:45 +0200 )edit

I have no problems too. routing works fine. I haven't test offline maps yet.

piwostar ( 2014-10-27 08:53:26 +0200 )edit

I've tested offline maps (India is around 1.2Gb), no problem. The previous beta (unofficial) had a bug which would cause the app to stop running, haven't seen that in the last two days either.

Sanjay Mehta ( 2014-10-27 11:28:04 +0200 )edit
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HERE maps seems to be good unless you use it offline with Jolla. While navigatin that annoying connection dialog is popping up every fifth second and making whole offline maps useless! Very annoying feature. I think there should be at least option to tell "Don't ask again for connection" and that should be remembered until application is closed. Is anybody else affected with that?

verro88 ( 2014-10-28 13:38:00 +0200 )edit
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that's a thing i didn't test, but sounds annoying to me too. maybe they fix this issue. it's normal that not all things work in a beta version.

piwostar ( 2014-10-28 14:06:34 +0200 )edit
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answered 2014-10-06 00:23:18 +0200

Neo gravatar image

While waiting for the native app, Here maps is available for Jolla as an Android app (beta version).

Currently you can download it from Aptoide (add store boli3 and you will find the app there).

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HERE maps seems to be good unless you use it offline with Jolla. While navigatin that annoying connection dialog is popping up every fifth second and making whole offline maps useless! Very annoying feature. I think there should be at least option to tell "Don't ask again for connection" and that should be remembered until application is closed.

verro88 ( 2014-10-28 13:36:51 +0200 )edit
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Agree with you, please see https://together.jolla.com/question/52421/disable-connection-dialog/

Neo ( 2014-10-28 15:47:44 +0200 )edit

With me, it's not the connection. The problem is the gps. It's searching and searching and not finding the position. Gps and Nokia Here positioning is activated. I'm using Update 9, 1.1.0.39.

zemideluxe ( 2014-10-28 19:22:26 +0200 )edit

an alternative is to get HERE beta 220 from this link http://www.mediafire.com/download/8fsp1694kzivi88/beta_220_HERE.apk (I originally got it from Nokia HERE website, and the sha1sum is 211745e3567f8841dcd62b804001cc74dc3e6442, so you can check that it is unmodified)

steabert ( 2014-12-17 10:20:29 +0200 )edit

Now that Sailfish X is out, HERE WeGo works like a charm. No, it's not a native application, but isn't running Android apps one of the killer featured of the platform? If wishes were horses...

There are a lot more important issues doing on right now (Bluetooth stach, for example) so I think we won't be seeing a native navigation app for a while. If the store supported paid apps, however...

Direc ( 2017-12-25 23:31:19 +0200 )edit
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answered 2014-09-01 12:52:20 +0200

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An employee of Nokia Here told me that the contracts between Nokia and Jolla Signed .The app is thus in creation. When it is published, he could not tell me. Unfortunately, I do not know how far you can trust him. He can not say more information....I can understand! Maybe Jolla gives us more information soon :) at least I hope so ;)

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for this case, I love nokia again...

peter-berlin ( 2014-09-01 13:26:18 +0200 )edit

Being the most voted question on TJC I would not be surprised at all.

Maximilian1st ( 2014-09-01 13:28:42 +0200 )edit

I just got my Jolla yesterday. Was happy to see that Nokia Maps were supported. Was not so happy to find voice guidance and offline were not available.

Started searching for options and found this:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/09/29/nokias-here-maps-for-android-beta-apk-leaked-works-fine-on-non-samsung-hardware/

So, Nokia is definitely working on it and the minute it launches they can charge me as much as a new Garmin, provided I get offline maps.

Sanjay Mehta ( 2014-09-30 13:03:10 +0200 )edit

say again?

mornfall ( 2015-09-11 14:31:51 +0200 )edit

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