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Poll: have you managed to convince your Andr/Apple loving friend to switch to Jolla

asked 2014-04-04 12:53:05 +0200

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Hello Sailors! Here is pretty simple question for you: have you managed to convince any of your friends or collegues or whatever, who actually never heard about Jolla before, to switch to it? What were the major difficulties while taliking with your friends about it? I know every one of us tried to do it. You can write about your experience on this subject in comments and please vote, so we could get some numbers.

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Due to my age, my friends see a mobile phone for what it is; something to make calls with and to send the occasional text.

When I showed a few friends the Jolla and what it couldn't do, I was the laughing stock for about 5 minutes until we all needed our oxygen tanks to breathe, bearing in mind this was OS 1.0.0.5 (the beginning).

If anything, the phone didn't raise any eyebrows, but created plenty of frowny faces, as to why I had spent so much money on an incomplete phone! (They didn't quite understand the bit about development by the user).

The best part about the phone for my friends, is you can change its appearance with new TOH's, until I told them how much they were, now one of my friends is still recovering in hospital, after laughing himself into an asthma attack!

I got given a Samsung Galaxy S2 with a broken USB port (repaired for £7) and installed a stable version of Cyanogenmod. The screen is bright, the phone is functional and above all, it does what you ask of it and to be honest, I like it!, it all works!

A friend still uses his immaculate Nokia N8 (he won't part with it), which if we are honest, the only thing that really lets that phone down, is the OS, otherwise, it's a cracking camera, then the USB OTG, the HDMI out, all nice features. Even the S2 will output video with the right cable! (MHL).

It's Nokia or Samsung for the majority of my friends, who got their phones on contract back in the days of Jesus and refuse to upgrade, because and I quote; "I like my little phone, it's very reliable and I know how to use it". (Wow, I sounds like an old fart!!, I'm mid 40's, not so old, eh?) :D

I'm selling my Jolla, it was bought with money I didn't have, I've had the experience (been, seen, done it) so I will repay my debt from Jolla proceeds, maybe a friend might like to buy it, but I doubt that very much, that will be like trying to sell sand to Arabs.

Right, all jokes and japes aside, I quite like my Jolla, but not enough to be keeping hold of it, it's going on eBay this week! I noticed one went for £320.00, 'The First One' edition, which mine is. Minus the stickers, which are now hiding dents on my mountain bike and fridge and of course, my t-shirt is well worn already, but the Jolla is still immaculate, so off to auction it is!

Edz ( 2014-04-04 14:53:06 +0200 )edit

wow, it's really sad :( i'm myself actually convinced my friend to switch from Iphone 5. She liked gesture-based interface and TOH technology. Although i also have couple of friends with "what the hell is this crap?" attitude =\

virgi26 ( 2014-04-04 14:59:32 +0200 )edit

Changing all entries into Wiki entries, since this is a poll question.

00prometheus ( 2014-04-04 15:48:27 +0200 )edit
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  • co-workers like the gesture UI and full screen without bar notification and discrete notifications.

  • my part: too many things not yet working/ready exposed at another topic, This just final beta 1.0.4.20 and not release for my self as end user. version 1.0.4.20 mostly a smartphone for closed group developers level, linux fans, not for end user like user came from SymbianOS S3 Belle on Nokia N8-00 (too many things can doing only at developer mode but should interest user level !)

Still a lot of works before reach more generic customers.

Sometime, i think the SailfishOS/software are mostly used only at developer mode and almost not tested as user level by developer

redge73 ( 2014-04-05 03:11:55 +0200 )edit

I think the 'poll' here is a bit out of hand as the answers are more like commentary than actual options to vote for. In my case a few are interested, but a definite and big blocker is the fact it doesn't work with a Mac (really bad for me too). Also the size is a turnoff for some. Apps I have found to be less of an issue.

Setok ( 2014-04-05 15:00:41 +0200 )edit

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answered 2014-12-29 19:24:05 +0200

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updated 2014-12-29 20:31:17 +0200

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I think it's too early for to talk anyone into switching to Jolla. First, which Android user would switch to a phone that focuses simulating Android (and not very well). Second, the phone still isn't fully functional (probably partly due that the devs focus on Android compatibility instead of fixing the basic useability issues

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answered 2014-04-14 22:51:41 +0200

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updated 2014-04-15 23:10:35 +0200

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The short answer: NO.
The longer answer:
- My Wife hates it, as the indicator lights blinks at night.
- My colleagues (mobile software developers) laughs at it.
- I used it as my main phone from January until mid-march. Now I am back on my iPhone.

The main reasons are:

  • It never managed to connect to the wlan at work (ALL other phones never had any problems - we are using an apple airport time capsule)
  • It needs a reboot every week. (my iPhone NEVER needs a reboot..)
  • The browser is terrible
  • Android support is unstable/unfinished/slow scrolling. iPhone apps are better than the android ones anyway ... and native Sailfish apps are few and far between
  • In iOS, I can easily say that a particular app should not use mobile data. I only have 250 MB/month, and so this missing functionality really irritates me.
  • no support for apple services such as photo stream, syncing of contacts, etc..
  • its not easy to sync it with my mac with an USB cable.
  • The development environment (QT creator) is really a looong way behind Xcode, I especially miss the "Analyze code" feature that automatically finds bugs for you.
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I don't know about that Apple stuff, but I in my opinion the browser is really good (ok, the UI sucks, but performance-wise) now after U10 and Android's Firefox is also really smooth on Jolla. I haven't had almost any problems with the Android support. It seems that you haven't used the latest software versions as you switched to iPhone.

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answered 2014-12-30 02:18:07 +0200

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updated 2015-01-02 14:47:10 +0200

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I really like my Jolla.

But I honestly point out to others that the Sailfish OS still has lots of quirks and lacks some basic phone features (3g video calling comes to mind).

The phone I recommend to them is iPhone for one simple reason - PRIVACY.

Apart from the encryption, I LOVE how ios let me totally control and define what api or data an app can access. (Why the f### does a game need access to our "contacts", right?). I sorely miss this in Sailfish OS, and I think Jolla shouldn't taut "privacy" as a feature unless it actually does protect our private data. (To expand on this criticism - [I remember reading] Jolla has some agreement with Facebook where it treats the user's data obtained from Facebook as Facebook's property. Ofcourse, not Jolla's fault but ... )

(Yes, the ios platform is actually quite good at protecting your private data provided you don't put your data in the "cloud").

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Is it possible to use an iPhone without an apple login?

vattuvarg ( 2014-12-30 12:58:42 +0200 )edit

Privacy? :)

clouseau ( 2015-01-02 11:56:44 +0200 )edit

@vattuvarg - I assume you meant if an iPhone / iPad can be used without iCloud? Yes you can. Just because you need an apple id doesn't mean you have to use the iCloud features too. An easy way is also provided to disable those iCloud features that you do not wish to use. (Remember that your Jolla phone also requires a Jolla account to get OS / app updates and to use the app store). @clouseau - Your surprise (or sarcasm) is not surprising. Out of all the existing mobile platform, ios is the ONLY one that allows its users (1) a choice on how much of their data they want to "put in the clouds" (2) to place restrictions on "apps" on what personal data / OS feature can be accessed. (On a side note, the stability of the OS is also really impressive - it rarely crashes and / or needs restarts.) Also, unlike Google, Apple is not a company that makes money by datamining users data and selling it to the government and advertisers. They design good hardware and software and sell it at a premium.

sifartech ( 2015-01-02 14:33:00 +0200 )edit

Privacy and (not) keeping your photos music on the cloud are two different things. It's not sarcasm btw. Your statement nearly suprised me ;)

clouseau ( 2015-01-02 14:53:26 +0200 )edit

@clouseau - I guess that depends on personal perspective. You may be comfortable storing your photos, music, documents etc., on any one of the free providers (picasa, dropbox, onedrive etc.). But I don't trust such free providers who are also for-profit businesses. They need to make money somehow, and today the most popular way to do that is to collect your (a users) personal data, create a profile and sell this to advertisers and / or government agencies. You might say it's fine, and that's ok - it's your data and you don't mind exchanging it for something free, right? But is it really all "your" data? There may be other people in your photos. You violate their privacy - and they may care about it - when you put photos including them on the internet. You may insist on using a free email provider like Gmail, and so someone who avoids using Gmail but is forced to email to your Gmail id loses his / her privacy because Google / Gmail will then start creating a profile on them too - even though they don't want that. And so on ... "privacy" is getting real tricky today ... :)

sifartech ( 2015-01-02 15:13:25 +0200 )edit
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