Apply settings gestures missing

asked 2014-08-14 18:48:49 +0300

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updated 2014-11-11 23:21:23 +0300

Settings-> System -> Text input -> Keyboards for example has no Applygesture, it is very irritating to not have it.

People say it is unintuitive to have to pull left to apply and return to the previous screen but it is against the idea of muscle-memory to not have it even when it is not needed. In this case (Keyboards) there is no need to have an Apply button but I generally find myself pulling left to accept settings or something from lists and tag additional items or scroll lists by trying to.

EDIT: removing the apply gestures from settings is in my humble opinion a bad idea as you expect pages to cancel your input when you leave in the direction you came from (walk backwards through the door you came in from) - an idea to not break with moving patterns would be to pull left and show a checked checkbox like the lock when you send the phone to sleep, so people have a visual feedback that

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For comparison, in accounts settings you edit the settings of an account and then cancel by going back left (pull right) or apply/save by going right (pull left). Maybe it should always be this way? Go left to cancel, go right to apply/save/accept. (There's no way to cancel edits in Keyboards settings now. Not much harm you can do there, but generally I think it would be good to always have a "cancel" option.)

(Another example of the same inconsistency: When editing an ambience, there is no "save", you just go back left (pull right). But when selecting a ringtone for that ambience, left is cancel and right is accept.)

ssahla ( 2014-08-14 22:06:52 +0300 )edit

Very good point, not just the topic but mentioning the muscle memory. Wherever we are, UI should follow the same rhythm of gestures.

simo ( 2014-11-12 03:22:25 +0300 )edit

I don't vote it down, but i really dislike the idea. Changes in settings should be applied without confirmation, here is one example:

You're on the bluetooth settings page and want to connect to bt-speackers/headphones.

ATM you click bluetoth on -> it goes on, you click on the device -> you're connected. ready with 2 clicks

by your logic it would be: click bt on, swipe to confirm and landing back on overview page, go to bt settings page again, click the device, swipe to confirm. -> this would be 3 clicks + 2 swipes.

... and making some settings apply directly and others only after confirmation would be much more irritating than it is now.

Leinad ( 2014-11-12 10:22:47 +0300 )edit

@Leinad, bluetooth is a bad example, I am more on about configuration items like your accounts settings, things where you just "flick" a switch have a feedback already, those credential settings have no feedback so you never know what happens, what I currently ask myself is "did it change the settings or do I need to leave the page to confirm?" in general we are working with gestures here and a 1cm pull is something you just do without thinking at some point (muscle memory) - we don't have buttons "apply" or "cancel" (well the indicators work as buttons too but you don't need to tap them) you have to search for on the screen. So in short, I agree that there are pages in the settings app that don't need an apply gesture - but pages where you change eg login/server credentials should have an apply gesture with visual feedback - we need the phone to interact with us, tell what happens, not pretend to be omnipotent. It is about what you expect, I don't expect a bluetooth switch to need a confirmation, I expect a server setup page to need a confirmation though.

chemist ( 2014-11-12 10:54:16 +0300 )edit

poster is absolutely right, this have to be consistent for pages like this. personally i just think it is just a miss.

Larswad ( 2014-11-12 14:15:31 +0300 )edit