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SailfishOS, open source, collaboration meeting planning

asked 2014-08-21 22:22:21 +0200

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Next meeting:Thursday 10th of January 2019 at 09:00 UTC. The meeting will be held on Freenode IRC, #mer-meeting ( https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#mer-meeting )

Check here for your local time: https://bit.ly/2C8f3lC

Logs of previous meetings: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/

Agenda/topics:


  • add your name/nick using the template below to suggest a topic.
  • indicate how much time you will need for the topic so we can timebox the meeting accordingly
  • please be as thorough as you can with your question/topic
  • if you can't make the meeting please ask and then name a substitute who can in your place.

It is expected that you show up and present your topic, or name a substitute and make sure they attend in your absence. These IRC meetings are for real time participation and live discussions, otherwise you can post the topic on here on TJC or on the mailing list and get responses that way.

We need you to be present to clarify details in the topic, and to ensure the discussion is leading to the answers you are looking for! If you do not participate or your question/topic isn't clear enough it will be postponed. Also: Always ask for *more time than you anticipate your topics needs!!*

Please try and have your topics ready by at least 3 days before the meeting. This will help us have answers ready beforehand to save time. Topics announced afterwards will be postponed to the next meeting.


Template for topic proposal: (edit this wiki directly to add your topics)

  • Name / IRC nick:
  • topic:
  • some details about the topic:
  • approx time needed:
  • optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting (and inform your substitute!)

  • Name / IRC nick: tortoisedoc
  • topic: Harbour and it's place in the strategy of jolla (w/r to individual markets)
  • some details about the topic: Harbour has been since the start the only place where applications are officially distributed and, most importantly, (to a certain extent) validated. We have seen a constant rise on the openrepos, not only in terms of users, but also in terms of functionalities (download stats, origin tracking etc) but this has not been the case for harbour. How does harbour fit into the "big localized ecosystems" picture? How does it currently support this vision (if if exists)? For example, is it accessible from Markets like Russia, China, SA? Given there are no tools for localization, nor for tracking number of downloads per country, it does not seem to be the case. What is thy future, Harbour? The type of info that could be interesting (especially for localization focussing) is:

    • is Harbour available on all the countries where SailfishOS is officially deployed?
    • Is Harbour available on all the other countries?
    • How are "local eco systems" interacting with Harbour, if at all?
    • more questions might come up during the discussion :)
  • approx time needed: 15 min

  • optional: if not present, pospone please

  • Name / IRC nick: dcaliste
  • topic: how can the community help to improve the state of QtWayland in Mer ?
  • some details about the topic: Currently QtWayland:master is ancient and there are a lot of branches with piles of commits, current one seems to be mer-5.4. I guess the rebase on Qt5.9 is in mer-5.9. Would it make sense to use a submodule pointing to upstream (with a checkout at 5.6.3 currently), with the additional commits as git-patches, as it is done for messagingframework ? Then, all additional commits can be reviewed to be upstreamed if it make sense and later upgrades to more recent version of Qt would be easier. If it makes sense, would community help welcome here ? In which forms: additional commit review on upstream:master, creation of a submodule and git-patch for every additional commits ?
  • approx time needed: 20 minutes
  • optional: if I cannot attend, please reschedule the topic to the next meeting.


For background info and invitation to this series of meetings, please see this post. Past meeting minutes, list of action points and further information are here, more recent minutes are here

Meeting Chair: (volunteers, suggestions,nominations...)

Responsibilities of meeting chair: send invitation/agenda before the meeting, keep time and order during the meeting, send minutes and next meeting planning info after the meeting.

  • James Noori (Jaymzz)
  • Simonas Leleiva (Sledges)
  • Steph Gosling (stephg)
  • Carol Chen (cybette)
  • (your name here)

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Nice that you decided to move this here from the previous pad - I think TJC will serve well in this purpose also, also good to have many different topics under the same roof. Meetings might get new people too?

simo ( 2014-08-21 23:19:11 +0200 )edit
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@cybette I wonder about the outcome of the action items 2 and 3 from the September 23th meeting:
> 2. Jolla to possibly spare some engineering time and fix up the proprietary bits to at least not crash and burn on SIP
> 3. cybette to poke SIP/dialer guys in Jolla
Unfortunately SIP is still not usable using the latest Jolla update.

alex25 ( 2014-10-28 08:46:46 +0200 )edit

bump. next meeting 7th Jan ?

kimmoli ( 2015-01-05 23:09:51 +0200 )edit

@kimmoli: yes

sledges ( 2015-01-06 16:49:45 +0200 )edit
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@kimmoli@sledges thanks for the reminder. Sending email...

cybette ( 2015-01-06 16:54:55 +0200 )edit

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answered 2018-11-12 09:59:44 +0200

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updated 2018-12-10 21:09:42 +0200

rozgwi gravatar image

Name / IRC nick: Krister Bäckman / Krikke

Topic: USB Tethering https://together.jolla.com/question/191787/3005-usb-tethering-not-working-anymore/

https://together.jolla.com/question/3798/usb-tethering/?answer=61513#post-id-61513

The documented unofficial method does not work after upgrading to Sailfish 3. Seems like the reason for this is that the rndis0 or usb0 devices are not created anymore

Nov 12 10:56:13 Sailfish usb_moded[674]: Neither configured rndis0 nor fallback usb0 interface exists. Check your config!
Nov 12 10:56:13 Sailfish usb_moded[674]: Neither configured rndis0 nor fallback usb0 interface exists. Check your config!

update
Actually this is resolved now. Just enable "Developer mode" instead of "Internet sharing" and it works.

update 2
Well the device appears but doesn't work still...

update 3 Posted fix in the other topic.

Time needed: 5 minutes

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@ixevix: I took the liberty to amend your answer in order to help with understanding the history of edits

could you post the final solution here as well or link to the 'other topic' you mention?

thank you!

rozgwi ( 2018-12-10 21:15:34 +0200 )edit
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answered 2018-10-10 10:55:27 +0200

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answered 2018-04-04 17:24:16 +0200

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updated 2018-04-04 17:54:22 +0200

Name / IRC nick: Sanjeev/snj33v

topic: Sailfish 3 introduction

some details about the topic: can we get deeper preview of new APIs besides the one already mentioned in MWC?, will there be any sandboxing for the applications we develop?, how long we still need to rely on android support in jolla store?, willl keyboard finally support emojis?

approx time needed: atmost 5min

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@Sanjeev / @snj33v

willl keyboard finally support emojis?

Yes it will: https://translate.sailfishos.org/hu/translate/#search=emoji&sfields=source,target&unit=409386

Emoji kbd related strings landed in the 2.2.0 translation.

martonmiklos ( 2018-04-09 22:09:45 +0200 )edit
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answered 2018-04-02 22:03:19 +0200

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updated 2018-04-02 22:03:53 +0200

Name / IRC nick: Lolek

Topic: Sailfish security

Details about the topic:

It seems that currently the OS is pure simple Linux with only very basic permission structure. There's no SElinux/Apparmor, no application permissions. For example pictures made by the jolla-camera app has got 644 permissions which means every single other app can access it. Based on the fact that Jolla is secure (as of some statement on one of the Jolla webpages) this doesn't look like. Also same problem is with the very old web browser which is very dated (Firefox 38?). According to official information, this year we should see system encryption but what with the rest?
Unlocked bootloader message is also something not very welcome, but I think this is more related to Sony. It would be also great to have some more secure unlock screen. Current one is very fragile for example video recording i.e. someone can record when we input the pw to unlock our phones. Regarding Jolla account I'm missing option to remotely wipe out my phone from account.jolla.com. This is somehow a trade of between privacy and security as Jolla would need to have access for my phone but it can be made as opt-in.

approx time needed: probably less than 10 min but it highly depends on Jolla answers.

optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting

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answered 2018-03-27 15:15:04 +0200

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updated 2018-03-27 15:17:32 +0200

Name / IRC nick: au7ogeek

topic: Xperia XA2 support details

some details about the topic: Which version of the Xperia XA2 will be supported exactly (model number)? There are many different variations across markets and single/dual-sim types, etc. Will the dual-sim version be supported (initially or maybe eventually)? Single sim versions are already difficult to find (in Sweden) while dual-sim versions are readily available. How about the Xperia XA2 Ultra? This is even more popular and readily available. It has the same chipset as the XA2 but a different screen size.

I feel it is important to clarify such questions now as the devices being supported may be hard to find later on when Sailfish XA2 goes on sale.

approx time needed: 5 mins

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Will it support Sony Xperia XA2 Single-Sim H3123?!

Schumi ( 2018-06-14 22:09:18 +0200 )edit
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answered 2017-11-22 07:14:43 +0200

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I can't edit post but..

Name / IRC nick: bshah

topic: Upstreaming of mer/sfos specific QtMultimedia patches

I tried to use gst-droid and droidmedia working on top of Qt 5.9 but had a quite a lot struggle as the qtmultimedia patches required are on top of Qt 5.6 and not upstreamed, it would be lovely if original author can upstream those patches where it makes sense.

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answered 2017-10-16 00:59:42 +0200

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Hi there. A happy Sailfish X owner here. So please bear with me.

Name / IRC nick: filip topic:adding (almost) done translations from https://translate.sailfishos.org/ some details about the topic: There are some languages translated over 95% but not released. Slovenian only lacks review of 24 words till 100%. Hungarian, Greek, Estonian, Dutch, Czech and more others are also not yet official. approx time needed: 3 minutes.

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GO Filip! Go! :-)

ds1979 ( 2018-01-22 19:23:51 +0200 )edit
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answered 2017-09-04 08:02:54 +0200

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Name : Sugash

Topic : Custom Gestures & Fastening UI.

Details of the topic :

Custom Guestures :

Currently we have limited user customizable guestures.which causes a problem either between left and right hand users . User definable guestures can add more customizability and it can showcase Sailfish Os as the best Customizable Os.

Fastening UI :

1.The animation speed is slow and it's seem to appeal as a Slow Ui or OS . ( The Warehouse patch is liitle laggy and it doesn't appear to be native ) . Speed can also be made User Customizable ! which adds more UI customizability !

2.Remorse timer is the best of Sailfish . Few think why to wait for 5 sec for a single action ( probably Not true as we can continue with other activities ) . Many tend to wait for the completion if they work on the same page . So adding an immediate action button on the remorse action bar will make it easy & faster appealing .

approx time needed: 10min

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As for point #2, I absolutely agree that the remorse timer needs a re-work, not from a technical view, but from a UI perspective. By means of design, the remorse timer can be changed to be clear on what it shows and what the user can do, and the immediate button is a brilliant idea to improve it.

I've been using many (mobile) UIs so far, and I must admit that the SFOS remorse timer always puzzles me still after all those years, and this even annoys me almost daily.

Another improvement would be to make the remorse timer's timeout configurable. (I know this can be done by patching.)

Maus ( 2017-09-07 09:35:47 +0200 )edit

What do you think about user customizable guestures ? Any reasons you have for other listed ideas ? pls mention it , so that i can get some info .

sugashrajavelu ( 2017-09-07 12:21:33 +0200 )edit
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answered 2017-07-17 00:43:35 +0200

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updated 2017-07-17 00:44:17 +0200

Name / IRC nick: adamski

topic: Jolla Harbour paid apps

some details about the topic: What is holding things up regarding paid apps and IAP on Jolla Harbour?

approx time needed: 3 mins

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Edit first post and add your topic there

atlochowski ( 2017-07-17 09:38:30 +0200 )edit
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OK, I see, however I am a new user on here and don't have enough karma points to edit wiki posts. Thanks

adamski ( 2017-07-17 12:16:14 +0200 )edit
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@adamski I've added that for you, welcome :)

r0kk3rz ( 2017-07-17 15:24:36 +0200 )edit
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answered 2017-07-16 14:17:03 +0200

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updated 2017-07-16 14:17:03 +0200

I would propose to add an old question from 2015:

Inclusion of Bluetooth LE SDK libraries

Bluez5 already included for some devices as tech preview, so it would be good to know when can we expect least tech preview SDK support. What blockers does it have, what kind of help could be done by the community in this matter.

With high possibility I will not be able to attend on the meeting, but if someone could represent this question that would be great. Please let me know in a comment if you could present it on the meeting, and I will add to the proposals.

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