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asked 2014-08-21 22:22:21 +0300

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Next meeting on IRC:Thursday 11th of July 2019 at 08:00 UTC. The meeting will be held on Freenode IRC, #mer-meeting ( )

Check here for your local time:

Logs of previous meetings:

Tasks assigned during the meetings:


  • add your name/nick using the template below to suggest a topic.
  • indicate how much time you will need for the topic so we can timebox the meeting accordingly
  • please be as thorough as you can with your question/topic
  • if you can't make the meeting please ask and then name a substitute who can in your place.

It is expected that you show up and present your topic, or name a substitute and make sure they attend in your absence. These IRC meetings are for real time participation and live discussions, otherwise you can post the topic on here on TJC or on the mailing list and get responses that way.

We need you to be present to clarify details in the topic, and to ensure the discussion is leading to the answers you are looking for! If you do not participate or your question/topic isn't clear enough it will be postponed. Also: Always ask for *more time than you anticipate your topics needs!!*

Please try and have your topics ready by at least 3 days before the meeting. This will help us have answers ready beforehand to save time. Topics announced afterwards will be postponed to the next meeting.

Template for topic proposal: (edit this wiki directly to add your topics)

  • Name / IRC nick:
  • topic:
  • some details about the topic:
  • approx time needed:
  • optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting (and inform your substitute!)

Topics proposals:

  • Name / IRC nick: ApB
  • topic: Status of allowing more APIs/apps/whatever to the official store.
  • some details about the topic: The status of the official store is not that good and openrepos seem to do better. Its been discussed in previous meetings that some things need to be done on Jollas side in order to allow more apps that are available in openrepos to be also in the store. Whats the status of that.
  • approx time needed: 10min
  • optional: In case i forget just give an update on the situation.

Topics proposals:

  • Name / IRC nick: Raymaen
  • topic: Feature für phonenumber blocking
  • some details about the topic: There is this question from 2013!! that did not get any attention from Jolla (as far as i could see) but I think this is a pretty standard functionality for a smartphone that should be implemented (especially in a system that wants to be secure). ( Is this feature planed to be implemented in Sailfish OS or what is the reason we still don't have it?
  • approx time needed: 5-10 min (depends on the answer)
  • optional: In case i can not attend to the meeting please dicuss this question anyway! I can not write actually because of connenction restrictions in my Office but Im reading… Sorry

Topics proposals:

  • Name / IRC nick: Raymaen
  • topic: End of BETA-Status for Xperia devices
  • Dear Jolla-Team, first of all, thanks for the hard work! Is there a timeline planned for the end of the BETA-status for the Xperia devices (Sailfis X in general)? I know your situation and that corporate customers are being favored over community and private customers. But it would be great to have a timeline for the END of the BETA-Status and have finaly a working device as a daily driver. (
  • approx time needed: 15-20 min (depends on the answer)
  • optional: In case I can not attend to the meeting please dicuss this question anyway! I think there is a general interrest from the community about this topic, so maybe take it to general discussion! :-) * I can not write actually because of Connection restrictions in my Office* but Im reading… Sorry

Topics proposals:

  • Name / IRC nick: KeeperoftheKeys
  • topic: Mechanism for teams to maintain apps in the store
  • There are a lot of orphaned apps in the store, the ones that are actually maintained by upstream projects still can't be updated because the app is linked to a specific username of whoever originally packaged it for SailfishOS. There are 2 things needed as far as I can tell: 1 - a mechanism for others to take over maintaining OSS packages that are unmaintained, this will provide an immediate solution to this problem. 2 - as a more long term solution allowing teams to own applications instead of specific users. Case in point - I am starting to maintain gPodder for SFOS and have been granted rw access on the official github repository however I won't as far as I understand be able to submit a new version of gPodder that replaces the current one since that belongs to a different user.
  • approx time needed: ?
  • optional:

For background info and invitation to this series of meetings, please see this post. Past meeting minutes, list of action points and further information are here, more recent minutes are here

Meeting Chair: (volunteers, suggestions,nominations...)

Responsibilities of meeting chair: send invitation/agenda before the meeting, keep time and order during the meeting, send minutes and next meeting planning info after the meeting.

  • James Noori (Jaymzz)
  • Simonas Leleiva (Sledges)
  • Steph Gosling (stephg)
  • Carol Chen (cybette)
  • (your name here)

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Nice that you decided to move this here from the previous pad - I think TJC will serve well in this purpose also, also good to have many different topics under the same roof. Meetings might get new people too?

simo ( 2014-08-21 23:19:11 +0300 )edit

@cybette I wonder about the outcome of the action items 2 and 3 from the September 23th meeting:
> 2. Jolla to possibly spare some engineering time and fix up the proprietary bits to at least not crash and burn on SIP
> 3. cybette to poke SIP/dialer guys in Jolla
Unfortunately SIP is still not usable using the latest Jolla update.

alex25 ( 2014-10-28 08:46:46 +0300 )edit

bump. next meeting 7th Jan ?

kimmoli ( 2015-01-05 23:09:51 +0300 )edit

@kimmoli: yes

sledges ( 2015-01-06 16:49:45 +0300 )edit

@kimmoli@sledges thanks for the reminder. Sending email...

cybette ( 2015-01-06 16:54:55 +0300 )edit

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answered 2019-05-27 23:53:07 +0300

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updated 2019-06-25 18:14:11 +0300

  • Name / IRC nick: bionade24

  • Topic: Wireguard support directly in the Settings

  • Some details about the topic: Which Userpace Implementation should we use? Which compiler is the right for Rust or Go? Could we use the QrCode feature in the UI?

-approx time needed: 3 mins

Edit: I don't need time at 25.6.2019 cause I can't participate

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answered 2019-03-21 16:07:28 +0300

Name / IRC nick: minojolla

topic: option for SWIPE Down gesture

some details about the topic: Adding an option under 'gestures' where the user can activate the old "100% swipe down to close". When active, the top menu will be available from springboard.

approx time needed: 1 mins / ?

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you need to edit the wiki directly

bomo ( 2019-03-21 18:29:10 +0300 )edit

answered 2019-03-21 11:40:34 +0300

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updated 2019-03-21 11:40:59 +0300

Name / IRC nick: Coolgeek

topic: Security plan for native and android apps

some details about the topic:Is there any plan to provide some permission system for native and android apps ?

approx time needed: 10-15min, depending on the answer provided

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answered 2019-03-20 10:32:44 +0300

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  • Name: piggz
  • Topic: on a non hybris system, sailfish browser displays a white screen
  • On our port (xiaomi latte) which is i486 based with intel, we don't use hybris. Everything works except the gecko based sailfish browser. Could someone who knows this code well (rainemak?) help is with suggestions on where the rendering/displaying could fail
  • time: 10 mins
  • optional: eugenio
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answered 2019-03-20 10:30:08 +0300

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  • Name / IRC nick: piggz
  • topic: Nemo.Filemanager validation failure
  • The Nemo.FileManager api isn't allowed in the store. Why is this? What alternative is there? Is there a plan to allow it in the future? For our case, we only use it to delete files, so a c++ helper will do the job in the short term, but this functionality should be available.
  • approx time needed: 10mins
  • optional: mal
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answered 2019-02-07 13:23:34 +0300

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Name/IRC Nick:iHusky

Topic:Can Jolla Devs create a native app for Google Music or contact with Google and talk about port their apps as native. Or make something simmilar.

Details: I think that ofcourse SailfishOS is system where people want try live without google serices and apps, but we must see the truth, without good application base, SailfishOS will die in near future, and become small point of history a OS whenever created. So I think that we must look into Google and ask them if they would port their apps to SailfishOS.

Appro time:10 minutes

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answered 2018-11-12 09:59:44 +0300

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updated 2018-12-10 21:09:42 +0300

rozgwi gravatar image

Name / IRC nick: Krister Bäckman / Krikke

Topic: USB Tethering

The documented unofficial method does not work after upgrading to Sailfish 3. Seems like the reason for this is that the rndis0 or usb0 devices are not created anymore

Nov 12 10:56:13 Sailfish usb_moded[674]: Neither configured rndis0 nor fallback usb0 interface exists. Check your config!
Nov 12 10:56:13 Sailfish usb_moded[674]: Neither configured rndis0 nor fallback usb0 interface exists. Check your config!

Actually this is resolved now. Just enable "Developer mode" instead of "Internet sharing" and it works.

update 2
Well the device appears but doesn't work still...

update 3 Posted fix in the other topic.

Time needed: 5 minutes

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@ixevix: I took the liberty to amend your answer in order to help with understanding the history of edits

could you post the final solution here as well or link to the 'other topic' you mention?

thank you!

rozgwi ( 2018-12-10 21:15:34 +0300 )edit

answered 2018-10-10 10:55:27 +0300

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answered 2018-04-04 17:24:16 +0300

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updated 2018-04-04 17:54:22 +0300

Name / IRC nick: Sanjeev/snj33v

topic: Sailfish 3 introduction

some details about the topic: can we get deeper preview of new APIs besides the one already mentioned in MWC?, will there be any sandboxing for the applications we develop?, how long we still need to rely on android support in jolla store?, willl keyboard finally support emojis?

approx time needed: atmost 5min

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@Sanjeev / @snj33v

willl keyboard finally support emojis?

Yes it will:,target&unit=409386

Emoji kbd related strings landed in the 2.2.0 translation.

martonmiklos ( 2018-04-09 22:09:45 +0300 )edit

answered 2018-04-02 22:03:19 +0300

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updated 2018-04-02 22:03:53 +0300

Name / IRC nick: Lolek

Topic: Sailfish security

Details about the topic:

It seems that currently the OS is pure simple Linux with only very basic permission structure. There's no SElinux/Apparmor, no application permissions. For example pictures made by the jolla-camera app has got 644 permissions which means every single other app can access it. Based on the fact that Jolla is secure (as of some statement on one of the Jolla webpages) this doesn't look like. Also same problem is with the very old web browser which is very dated (Firefox 38?). According to official information, this year we should see system encryption but what with the rest?
Unlocked bootloader message is also something not very welcome, but I think this is more related to Sony. It would be also great to have some more secure unlock screen. Current one is very fragile for example video recording i.e. someone can record when we input the pw to unlock our phones. Regarding Jolla account I'm missing option to remotely wipe out my phone from This is somehow a trade of between privacy and security as Jolla would need to have access for my phone but it can be made as opt-in.

approx time needed: probably less than 10 min but it highly depends on Jolla answers.

optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting

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