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SailfishOS, open source, collaboration meeting planning

asked 2014-08-21 22:22:21 +0300

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Next meeting on IRC:Thursday6th of Aug 2020 at 08:00 UTC. The meeting will be held on Freenode IRC, #sailifshos-meeting ( https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#sailfishos-meeting )

Check here for your local time: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Sailfish+OS+community+collaboration+meeting&iso=20200806T08&p1=1440

Logs of previous meetings: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2020/

Meeting logs before March of 2020: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/

Tasks assigned during the meetings: http://meetingwords.com/sailfishos-community-irc


  • add your name/nick using the template below to suggest a topic.
  • indicate how much time you will need for the topic so we can timebox the meeting accordingly
  • please be as thorough as you can with your question/topic
  • if you can't make the meeting please ask and then name a substitute who can in your place.

It is expected that you show up and present your topic, or name a substitute and make sure they attend in your absence. These IRC meetings are for real time participation and live discussions, otherwise you can post the topic on here on TJC or on the mailing list and get responses that way.

We need you to be present to clarify details in the topic, and to ensure the discussion is leading to the answers you are looking for! If you do not participate or your question/topic isn't clear enough it will be postponed. Also: Always ask for *more time than you anticipate your topics needs!!*

Please try and have your topics ready by at least 3 days before the meeting. This will help us have answers ready beforehand to save time. Topics announced afterwards will be postponed to the next meeting.


Template for topic proposal: (edit this wiki directly to add your topics)

  • Name / IRC nick:
  • topic:
  • some details about the topic:
  • approx time needed:
  • optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting (and inform your substitute!)

Agenda/topics:


  • Name / IRC nick: rinigus
  • topic: AOSP10 based ports
  • some details about the topic: From looking at https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris and Android Q PR specifically, it seems that there is not much activity on development of Android 10 support. I wonder what is the current status of AOSP10 support (in case if it is not all published). If work has not started on it by Jolla developers, whether it is planned and, if it is, when do you plan to work on it.
  • approx time needed: 20 min
  • optional: I hope to make it; if not, please discuss with others


  • Name / IRC nick: Mister_Magister
  • topic: Multiple 2+ cameras support
  • some details about the topic: Lately i've successfuly created initial support of multi-camera. On some devices auxiliary cameras are provided same way as other 2 but sfos is based around front and back camera while we need to support camera id 2 and higher. My initial changes are nowhere near merging, it needs to be done properly but it's something jolla should start think about regarding jolla-camera ui.
  • approx time needed: 15 min
  • optional: I hope to make it; if not, please discuss with others


  • Name / IRC nick: Sefriol
  • topic: Separating QML components from closed source and publishing them to git
  • some details about the topic: This has come up before. Currently, if community sees a bug or wants to propose a change in core app's UI, the source is only available within the phone / emulator / SDK. Is there a problem with separating these components from the closed source repositories and publishing them in gitso that community could do pull requests on them?
  • approx time needed: 5 min
  • optional: I hope to make it; if not, please discuss with others

For background info and invitation to this series of meetings, please see this post. Past meeting minutes, list of action points and further information are here, more recent minutes are here

Meeting Chair: (volunteers, suggestions,nominations...)

Responsibilities of meeting chair: send invitation/agenda before the meeting, keep time and order during the meeting, send minutes and next meeting planning info after the meeting.

  • James Noori (Jaymzz)
  • Simonas Leleiva (Sledges)
  • Steph Gosling (stephg)
  • Carol Chen (cybette)
  • Andrew Branson (abranson)
  • (your name here)

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Nice that you decided to move this here from the previous pad - I think TJC will serve well in this purpose also, also good to have many different topics under the same roof. Meetings might get new people too?

simo ( 2014-08-21 23:19:11 +0300 )edit
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@cybette I wonder about the outcome of the action items 2 and 3 from the September 23th meeting:
> 2. Jolla to possibly spare some engineering time and fix up the proprietary bits to at least not crash and burn on SIP
> 3. cybette to poke SIP/dialer guys in Jolla
Unfortunately SIP is still not usable using the latest Jolla update.

alex25 ( 2014-10-28 08:46:46 +0300 )edit

bump. next meeting 7th Jan ?

kimmoli ( 2015-01-05 23:09:51 +0300 )edit

@kimmoli: yes

sledges ( 2015-01-06 16:49:45 +0300 )edit
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@kimmoli@sledges thanks for the reminder. Sending email...

cybette ( 2015-01-06 16:54:55 +0300 )edit

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answered 2017-11-22 07:14:43 +0300

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I can't edit post but..

Name / IRC nick: bshah

topic: Upstreaming of mer/sfos specific QtMultimedia patches

I tried to use gst-droid and droidmedia working on top of Qt 5.9 but had a quite a lot struggle as the qtmultimedia patches required are on top of Qt 5.6 and not upstreamed, it would be lovely if original author can upstream those patches where it makes sense.

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answered 2017-10-16 00:59:42 +0300

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Hi there. A happy Sailfish X owner here. So please bear with me.

Name / IRC nick: filip topic:adding (almost) done translations from https://translate.sailfishos.org/ some details about the topic: There are some languages translated over 95% but not released. Slovenian only lacks review of 24 words till 100%. Hungarian, Greek, Estonian, Dutch, Czech and more others are also not yet official. approx time needed: 3 minutes.

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GO Filip! Go! :-)

ds1979 ( 2018-01-22 19:23:51 +0300 )edit
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answered 2017-09-04 08:02:54 +0300

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Name : Sugash

Topic : Custom Gestures & Fastening UI.

Details of the topic :

Custom Guestures :

Currently we have limited user customizable guestures.which causes a problem either between left and right hand users . User definable guestures can add more customizability and it can showcase Sailfish Os as the best Customizable Os.

Fastening UI :

1.The animation speed is slow and it's seem to appeal as a Slow Ui or OS . ( The Warehouse patch is liitle laggy and it doesn't appear to be native ) . Speed can also be made User Customizable ! which adds more UI customizability !

2.Remorse timer is the best of Sailfish . Few think why to wait for 5 sec for a single action ( probably Not true as we can continue with other activities ) . Many tend to wait for the completion if they work on the same page . So adding an immediate action button on the remorse action bar will make it easy & faster appealing .

approx time needed: 10min

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As for point #2, I absolutely agree that the remorse timer needs a re-work, not from a technical view, but from a UI perspective. By means of design, the remorse timer can be changed to be clear on what it shows and what the user can do, and the immediate button is a brilliant idea to improve it.

I've been using many (mobile) UIs so far, and I must admit that the SFOS remorse timer always puzzles me still after all those years, and this even annoys me almost daily.

Another improvement would be to make the remorse timer's timeout configurable. (I know this can be done by patching.)

Maus ( 2017-09-07 09:35:47 +0300 )edit

What do you think about user customizable guestures ? Any reasons you have for other listed ideas ? pls mention it , so that i can get some info .

sugashrajavelu ( 2017-09-07 12:21:33 +0300 )edit
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answered 2017-07-17 00:43:35 +0300

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updated 2017-07-17 00:44:17 +0300

Name / IRC nick: adamski

topic: Jolla Harbour paid apps

some details about the topic: What is holding things up regarding paid apps and IAP on Jolla Harbour?

approx time needed: 3 mins

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Edit first post and add your topic there

atlochowski ( 2017-07-17 09:38:30 +0300 )edit
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OK, I see, however I am a new user on here and don't have enough karma points to edit wiki posts. Thanks

adamski ( 2017-07-17 12:16:14 +0300 )edit
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@adamski I've added that for you, welcome :)

r0kk3rz ( 2017-07-17 15:24:36 +0300 )edit
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answered 2017-07-16 14:17:03 +0300

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updated 2017-07-16 14:17:03 +0300

I would propose to add an old question from 2015:

Inclusion of Bluetooth LE SDK libraries

Bluez5 already included for some devices as tech preview, so it would be good to know when can we expect least tech preview SDK support. What blockers does it have, what kind of help could be done by the community in this matter.

With high possibility I will not be able to attend on the meeting, but if someone could represent this question that would be great. Please let me know in a comment if you could present it on the meeting, and I will add to the proposals.

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answered 2017-06-14 09:51:53 +0300

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Name / IRC nick: Xray2000

topic: Will the Xperia X comming for shure, and will alien dalviek updated to a newer android

approx time needed: 5 minutes

optional: if i'm not there simply answer the question, i will read it in the logs...

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answered 2017-06-12 22:09:55 +0300

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  • Name / IRC nick: remote
  • topic: How soon 2sim version of Xperia X (F5122) will be supported after F5121 fw release?
  • approx time needed: 3 min
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answered 2017-05-03 11:45:32 +0300

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updated 2017-05-03 11:46:46 +0300

  • Name / IRC nick: leszek
  • topic: Sony Xperia X camera support full or limited (like AOSP driver) ?
  • some details about the topic: Sony
    disables some camera features for
    AOSP (some need proprietary stuff or patented stuff). Is SailfishOS on Xperia X getting the full support or only the AOSP support (which is pretty limited) ?
  • approx time needed: 5-10 mins
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The main reason I switch back from Sailfish to Android / LineageOS is camera support. Having good camera support would pull me over.

aerique ( 2020-05-26 17:14:19 +0300 )edit
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answered 2017-04-16 20:29:37 +0300

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updated 2017-04-16 20:32:39 +0300

  • Name / IRC nick : bshah, toxip, mariogrip

  • Topic: Project Halium, collaboration on common android base

  • Description: Currently Ubuntu Touch, SailfishOS/Mer, Plasma Mobile and others have different android source trees and methods on how our stacks are built even though much of the underlying technologies are the same. There is a lot of unneeded fragmentation. Project Halium aims solve this by the having common android base and perhaps common middleware between different projects so that we could collaborate and distribute each of our resources more efficiently. More details about this project was sent to sailfishos devel list : http://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2017-April/007842.html

  • Approx time needed: 10-15 mins

  • Backup: (The whole Halium team will be there so no backup needed)

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answered 2017-02-14 21:32:24 +0300

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  • Name / IRC nick: pavi
  • Topic: Clarify and cleanup of Wiki's
  • Details about the topic

We have currently 2 Wikis, one is at https://wiki.merproject.org/ and the other is at https://sailfishos.org/wiki/ . This issue concerns the visiblity of three projects SailfishOS, Mer and Nemo. The three are related to Mer but the information in the wiki is

  • Too confusing
  • Repeated
  • Ambiguous
  • Written in wrong place
  • Outdated

So I hope some time is spent to discuss these issues. I am adding this to locusf topic above discussing Nemo. Please discuss this issue close to that topic.

  • Time Required: 20 minutes
  • backup:locusf
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ditto that, roll into one add category like Mer, Sailfish, Nemo, similar to Open Repos way of one website but with filter to screen out messages related to mer for example.

DarkTuring ( 2017-02-14 22:48:25 +0300 )edit

A similar idea that I had https://together.jolla.com/question/148537/structuring-together-jolla/ was posted long back. I some times feel we need some more structure. For example, it would be difficult to understand the topics to be discussed in the meeting as it carries all the topics in single thread. I feel that it would be better if a new thread is opened for each meeting with pointer to older meetings (if required) would be good for following threads. Similarly lots of things.

walkingzen ( 2018-02-15 11:36:33 +0300 )edit
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