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SailfishOS, open source, collaboration meeting planning

asked 2014-08-21 22:22:21 +0200

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Next meeting:Thursday 10th of January 2019 at 09:00 UTC. The meeting will be held on Freenode IRC, #mer-meeting ( https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#mer-meeting )

Check here for your local time: https://bit.ly/2C8f3lC

Logs of previous meetings: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/

Agenda/topics:


  • add your name/nick using the template below to suggest a topic.
  • indicate how much time you will need for the topic so we can timebox the meeting accordingly
  • please be as thorough as you can with your question/topic
  • if you can't make the meeting please ask and then name a substitute who can in your place.

It is expected that you show up and present your topic, or name a substitute and make sure they attend in your absence. These IRC meetings are for real time participation and live discussions, otherwise you can post the topic on here on TJC or on the mailing list and get responses that way.

We need you to be present to clarify details in the topic, and to ensure the discussion is leading to the answers you are looking for! If you do not participate or your question/topic isn't clear enough it will be postponed. Also: Always ask for *more time than you anticipate your topics needs!!*

Please try and have your topics ready by at least 3 days before the meeting. This will help us have answers ready beforehand to save time. Topics announced afterwards will be postponed to the next meeting.


Template for topic proposal: (edit this wiki directly to add your topics)

  • Name / IRC nick:
  • topic:
  • some details about the topic:
  • approx time needed:
  • optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting (and inform your substitute!)

  • Name / IRC nick: tortoisedoc
  • topic: Harbour and it's place in the strategy of jolla (w/r to individual markets)
  • some details about the topic: Harbour has been since the start the only place where applications are officially distributed and, most importantly, (to a certain extent) validated. We have seen a constant rise on the openrepos, not only in terms of users, but also in terms of functionalities (download stats, origin tracking etc) but this has not been the case for harbour. How does harbour fit into the "big localized ecosystems" picture? How does it currently support this vision (if if exists)? For example, is it accessible from Markets like Russia, China, SA? Given there are no tools for localization, nor for tracking number of downloads per country, it does not seem to be the case. What is thy future, Harbour? The type of info that could be interesting (especially for localization focussing) is:

    • is Harbour available on all the countries where SailfishOS is officially deployed?
    • Is Harbour available on all the other countries?
    • How are "local eco systems" interacting with Harbour, if at all?
    • more questions might come up during the discussion :)
  • approx time needed: 15 min

  • optional: if not present, pospone please

  • Name / IRC nick: dcaliste
  • topic: how can the community help to improve the state of QtWayland in Mer ?
  • some details about the topic: Currently QtWayland:master is ancient and there are a lot of branches with piles of commits, current one seems to be mer-5.4. I guess the rebase on Qt5.9 is in mer-5.9. Would it make sense to use a submodule pointing to upstream (with a checkout at 5.6.3 currently), with the additional commits as git-patches, as it is done for messagingframework ? Then, all additional commits can be reviewed to be upstreamed if it make sense and later upgrades to more recent version of Qt would be easier. If it makes sense, would community help welcome here ? In which forms: additional commit review on upstream:master, creation of a submodule and git-patch for every additional commits ?
  • approx time needed: 20 minutes
  • optional: if I cannot attend, please reschedule the topic to the next meeting.


For background info and invitation to this series of meetings, please see this post. Past meeting minutes, list of action points and further information are here, more recent minutes are here

Meeting Chair: (volunteers, suggestions,nominations...)

Responsibilities of meeting chair: send invitation/agenda before the meeting, keep time and order during the meeting, send minutes and next meeting planning info after the meeting.

  • James Noori (Jaymzz)
  • Simonas Leleiva (Sledges)
  • Steph Gosling (stephg)
  • Carol Chen (cybette)
  • (your name here)

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Nice that you decided to move this here from the previous pad - I think TJC will serve well in this purpose also, also good to have many different topics under the same roof. Meetings might get new people too?

simo ( 2014-08-21 23:19:11 +0200 )edit
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@cybette I wonder about the outcome of the action items 2 and 3 from the September 23th meeting:
> 2. Jolla to possibly spare some engineering time and fix up the proprietary bits to at least not crash and burn on SIP
> 3. cybette to poke SIP/dialer guys in Jolla
Unfortunately SIP is still not usable using the latest Jolla update.

alex25 ( 2014-10-28 08:46:46 +0200 )edit

bump. next meeting 7th Jan ?

kimmoli ( 2015-01-05 23:09:51 +0200 )edit

@kimmoli: yes

sledges ( 2015-01-06 16:49:45 +0200 )edit
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@kimmoli@sledges thanks for the reminder. Sending email...

cybette ( 2015-01-06 16:54:55 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-01-19 18:49:37 +0200

netvandal gravatar image

Talking about map component could be also interesting, infos it's scattered, confusing and sometime frustrating. summarizing available option, talk about timeline for official API could be useful. But I'm not sure if can be fit in the community meeting, anyway, i propose...

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answered 2015-12-09 19:43:58 +0200

Dave999 gravatar image

Thank you for still running these meetings.

I'm interested in what is happening with the tablet and all things related to the tablet.

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... and especially interested in promised blog post clarifying and finally settling down this whole damn thing...

zlutor ( 2016-01-24 17:31:55 +0200 )edit

Latest details from Juhani Lasilla regarding the tablet can be found on: http://reviewjolla.blogspot.nl/2016/02/jolla-tablets-in-china.html

The rest can be found in the official Jolla Blog post: https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-closure/

JSE ( 2016-02-01 19:59:25 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-03-31 22:26:30 +0200

nadir gravatar image

Name / IRC nick: nh1402

topic: OS Abstraction

some details about the topic: Are there any plans to provide an API to enhance the Sailfish UX more specifically for the Lockscreen adding pattern lock, fingerprint sensor, iris sensor, facial recognition, text-based password etc. Other areas of the OS could also be extended such as the messaging app adding text formatting (sarcasm, italics, bold, underline, strikethrough), adding telegram to the messaging app and others. Those are the only 2 that I can think of so far but I'm sure other people have more ideas.

approx time needed: 15 minutes

optional: I would like to be at the meeting to discuss this, if no one else is going to talk about it then delay it to the next meeting when I'm there.

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answered 2016-05-25 22:13:08 +0200

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  • Name / IRC nick: toxip
  • topic: Requesting things to be added to mer-tools repo
  • details: Noticed that some basic tools like wget are not included in the mer-tools repo. How could we request things to be added to the repository?
  • time: 5 min
  • optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting
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wget is GLP3.

tortoisedoc ( 2016-05-27 10:50:06 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-06-29 21:15:45 +0200

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  • Name / IRC nick: OhDaeto
  • Topic: Update outdated packages
  • Some details about the topic: Sailfish OS (Nemo) contains a lot of outdated and officialy unsupported packages in repos. For example, there is Perl package version 5.16.1 while Cent OS 7 / RHEL supports 5.16.3. So I would like to know how the community can help you to update your packages and projects to latest actual versions, and which parts you think are the most weakest. Thanks in advance and sorry for my poor English. Hope you understood what I want to ask :)
  • Approx time needed: 5-10 mins
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You should edit first post as others have done so we can talk about this tomorrow. :)

tathhu ( 2016-06-29 21:41:25 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-12-05 14:07:32 +0200

ElderOrb gravatar image

James, could you please update https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/CommunityMeetings with meeting results? I was not able to participate but would like to get an update on some topics discussed. Thank you!

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today meeting minutes are here: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-December/007576.html

c.la ( 2016-12-05 16:54:03 +0200 )edit

Wiki updated.

ced117 ( 2017-01-13 20:14:49 +0200 )edit
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answered 2017-10-16 00:59:42 +0200

Filip K. gravatar image

Hi there. A happy Sailfish X owner here. So please bear with me.

Name / IRC nick: filip topic:adding (almost) done translations from https://translate.sailfishos.org/ some details about the topic: There are some languages translated over 95% but not released. Slovenian only lacks review of 24 words till 100%. Hungarian, Greek, Estonian, Dutch, Czech and more others are also not yet official. approx time needed: 3 minutes.

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GO Filip! Go! :-)

ds1979 ( 2018-01-22 19:23:51 +0200 )edit
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answered 2017-11-22 07:14:43 +0200

bshah gravatar image

I can't edit post but..

Name / IRC nick: bshah

topic: Upstreaming of mer/sfos specific QtMultimedia patches

I tried to use gst-droid and droidmedia working on top of Qt 5.9 but had a quite a lot struggle as the qtmultimedia patches required are on top of Qt 5.6 and not upstreamed, it would be lovely if original author can upstream those patches where it makes sense.

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answered 2018-04-02 22:03:19 +0200

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updated 2018-04-02 22:03:53 +0200

Name / IRC nick: Lolek

Topic: Sailfish security

Details about the topic:

It seems that currently the OS is pure simple Linux with only very basic permission structure. There's no SElinux/Apparmor, no application permissions. For example pictures made by the jolla-camera app has got 644 permissions which means every single other app can access it. Based on the fact that Jolla is secure (as of some statement on one of the Jolla webpages) this doesn't look like. Also same problem is with the very old web browser which is very dated (Firefox 38?). According to official information, this year we should see system encryption but what with the rest?
Unlocked bootloader message is also something not very welcome, but I think this is more related to Sony. It would be also great to have some more secure unlock screen. Current one is very fragile for example video recording i.e. someone can record when we input the pw to unlock our phones. Regarding Jolla account I'm missing option to remotely wipe out my phone from account.jolla.com. This is somehow a trade of between privacy and security as Jolla would need to have access for my phone but it can be made as opt-in.

approx time needed: probably less than 10 min but it highly depends on Jolla answers.

optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting

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answered 2015-09-19 17:49:43 +0200

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Name / IRC nick : tortoisedoc

topic: upgrading xdg-utils in mer to master

some details about the topic: see here https://together.jolla.com/question/110408/xdg-open-no-longer-working/

approx time needed: 15 mins?

optional: N/A

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thanks @tortoisedoc, added to agenda above. will send email to devel list shortly.

cybette ( 2015-09-30 13:42:57 +0200 )edit
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Hey, thanks @cybette for the reply and adding the topic; unfortunately due to higher powers tomorrow i cant attend, so I propose to postpone it to the next meeting.

tortoisedoc ( 2015-10-07 20:49:23 +0200 )edit
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ok, we'll move this to next week. thanks!

cybette ( 2015-10-08 16:42:12 +0200 )edit
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next meeting is on 22/10, we'll discuss this then!

cybette ( 2015-10-08 19:26:43 +0200 )edit
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