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SailfishOS, open source, collaboration meeting planning

asked 2014-08-21 22:22:21 +0300

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updated 2017-04-19 12:22:54 +0300

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Next meeting:Wednesday 3rd of May 2017 at 08:00 UTC. The meeting will be held on Freenode IRC, #mer-meeting ( http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#mer-meeting )

Check here for your local time: http://bit.ly/2orybRD

Agenda/topics:

  • add your name/nick using the template below to suggest a topic.
  • indicate how much time you will need for the topic so we can timebox the meeting accordingly
  • please be as thorough as you can with your question/topic
  • if you can't make the meeting please ask and then name a substitute who can in your place.

It is expected that you show up and present your topic, or name a substitute and make sure they attend in your absence. These IRC meetings are for real time participation and live discussions, otherwise you can post the topic on here on TJC or on the mailing list and get responses that way.

We need you to be present to clarify details in the topic, and to ensure the discussion is leading to the answers you are looking for! If you do not participate or your question/topic isn't clear enough it will be postponed.


Template for topic proposal: (edit this wiki directly to add your topics)

  • Name / IRC nick:
  • topic:
  • some details about the topic:
  • approx time needed:
  • optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting (and inform your substitute!)

For background info and invitation to this series of meetings, please see this post. Past meeting minutes, list of action points and further information are here

Meeting Chair: (volunteers, suggestions,nominations...)

Responsibilities of meeting chair: send invitation/agenda before the meeting, keep time and order during the meeting, send minutes and next meeting planning info after the meeting.

  • James Noori (Jaymzz)
  • Steph Gosling (stephg)
  • Joshua Strobl (JoshStrobl)
  • Carsten Munk (Stskeeps)
  • Iekku Pylkkä (iekku)
  • Carol Chen (cybette)
  • (your name here)

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Nice that you decided to move this here from the previous pad - I think TJC will serve well in this purpose also, also good to have many different topics under the same roof. Meetings might get new people too?

simo ( 2014-08-21 23:19:11 +0300 )edit
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@cybette I wonder about the outcome of the action items 2 and 3 from the September 23th meeting:
> 2. Jolla to possibly spare some engineering time and fix up the proprietary bits to at least not crash and burn on SIP
> 3. cybette to poke SIP/dialer guys in Jolla
Unfortunately SIP is still not usable using the latest Jolla update.

alex25 ( 2014-10-28 08:46:46 +0300 )edit

bump. next meeting 7th Jan ?

kimmoli ( 2015-01-05 23:09:51 +0300 )edit

@kimmoli: yes

sledges ( 2015-01-06 16:49:45 +0300 )edit
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@kimmoli@sledges thanks for the reminder. Sending email...

cybette ( 2015-01-06 16:54:55 +0300 )edit

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answered 2016-01-14 11:50:58 +0300

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updated 2016-01-14 11:52:18 +0300

Could someone check if the log at http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2016 will work properly this time please?

I know, this is no answer, but IMHO it is important that the log works.

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answered 2016-03-24 13:20:44 +0300

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updated 2016-03-24 13:21:42 +0300

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  • Name / IRC nick: russh
  • topic: whitelabel Jolla tablets

    • i.e. why doesn't Jolla encourage 'chinese factory' to build more Tablets (and act as reseller in Europa). Jolla can give them a SailfishOS version without license protected Software (like Alien Dalvik and Here). Benefits of this include - more developers will make native apps for SailfishOS (to fill the Jolla and openprepo app store). Builds the developer base, popularises SailfishOS and benefits everyone!

    • approx time needed: 5 minutes

    • optional: TBC
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@RussH: you have to edit the meeting agenda with your information and topic details in wiki 'question' above - like @ApB did - if you actually want it to be covered during a meeting.

mkld ( 2016-03-26 17:16:44 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-09-19 17:49:43 +0300

Name / IRC nick : tortoisedoc

topic: upgrading xdg-utils in mer to master

some details about the topic: see here https://together.jolla.com/question/110408/xdg-open-no-longer-working/

approx time needed: 15 mins?

optional: N/A

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thanks @tortoisedoc, added to agenda above. will send email to devel list shortly.

cybette ( 2015-09-30 13:42:57 +0300 )edit
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Hey, thanks @cybette for the reply and adding the topic; unfortunately due to higher powers tomorrow i cant attend, so I propose to postpone it to the next meeting.

tortoisedoc ( 2015-10-07 20:49:23 +0300 )edit
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ok, we'll move this to next week. thanks!

cybette ( 2015-10-08 16:42:12 +0300 )edit
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next meeting is on 22/10, we'll discuss this then!

cybette ( 2015-10-08 19:26:43 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-27 19:26:17 +0300

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I can't edit the wiki post because I just registered on here, but:

Name / IRC nick: ArmsOfSorrow

topic: Platform Development documentation

some details about the topic: this https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Platform_Development and various other sites about platform development are still just placeholders. I'd really like to help advance the platform (e.g. update some old packages), but the documentation on the whole process is scattered around various sites. When is it going to be (more) complete?

approx time needed: ~5 minutes

optional: if I'm not available (when there is a meeting date/time), just answer the question and make sure the log works.

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@ArmsOfSorrow: done. Which makes me realise I must be particularly ill, since I've just helped an emo.

mkld ( 2016-03-27 23:41:58 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-27 21:58:20 +0300

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Name / IRC nick: Luis Da Costa / Aliasbody

topic: Futur of jolla in the professional environment

some details about the topic: I've been promoting Jolla as a platform for my clients and their feedback might be good to be heard. More in details, every time we gain a client/project for a mobile app (mostly Android and iOS) we always propose a version for Jolla or Ubuntu Touch for free (in order to promote those platforms and to help them understand the benefits of a convergent code), but usually everyone chooses Ubuntu. At start I thought that it was because they knew the name (so there were more attracted to it) but after long discussions with our clients we found out that this wasn't the case. If you allow me I would be interested in explaining what are their concernes (and why, if this doesn't change, we might at libretrend change also everything to Ubuntu Touch).

approx time needed: 30 minutes (maybe even less, I think that anyone interested may need more time for the questions than for me to explain).

optional: None (I'll be the one to be there because I am the only one who has all the direct contact with our clients).

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@LibreTrend: if your development capabilities match your reading and understanding skills, I get why your clients do not want your Jolla apps, even for free. And that didn't take 30 minutes.

mkld ( 2016-03-27 23:52:34 +0300 )edit

@mkld Thank you for your kind message.... English is not my first language but in fact I missed the part saying "Template for topic proposal: (you can edit this wiki directly to add your topics)". I'll change the original post and add it there.

LibreTrend ( 2016-03-28 11:44:47 +0300 )edit
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answered 2016-03-31 22:26:30 +0300

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Name / IRC nick: nh1402

topic: OS Abstraction

some details about the topic: Are there any plans to provide an API to enhance the Sailfish UX more specifically for the Lockscreen adding pattern lock, fingerprint sensor, iris sensor, facial recognition, text-based password etc. Other areas of the OS could also be extended such as the messaging app adding text formatting (sarcasm, italics, bold, underline, strikethrough), adding telegram to the messaging app and others. Those are the only 2 that I can think of so far but I'm sure other people have more ideas.

approx time needed: 15 minutes

optional: I would like to be at the meeting to discuss this, if no one else is going to talk about it then delay it to the next meeting when I'm there.

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answered 2016-07-29 20:22:08 +0300

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I don't have enough karma to edit the wiki, please add this to the main post:

  • Name/IRC nick: ArmsOfSorrow
  • topic: upgrading to bluez 5
  • details: Is there a plan/timeframe to update to bluez 5? I'm developing an application using QtBluetooth and I'd like to use the same connection setup code for Linux PC, Sailfish and Android, but that library does not work in Sailfish and I was told it's not going to be fixed for bluez 4. Also, is there anything I, as a developer, can contribute to that issue?
  • approx. time needed: 5 min
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answered 2017-02-14 21:32:24 +0300

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  • Name / IRC nick: pavi
  • Topic: Clarify and cleanup of Wiki's
  • Details about the topic

We have currently 2 Wikis, one is at https://wiki.merproject.org/ and the other is at https://sailfishos.org/wiki/ . This issue concerns the visiblity of three projects SailfishOS, Mer and Nemo. The three are related to Mer but the information in the wiki is

  • Too confusing
  • Repeated
  • Ambiguous
  • Written in wrong place
  • Outdated

So I hope some time is spent to discuss these issues. I am adding this to locusf topic above discussing Nemo. Please discuss this issue close to that topic.

  • Time Required: 20 minutes
  • backup:locusf
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ditto that, roll into one add category like Mer, Sailfish, Nemo, similar to Open Repos way of one website but with filter to screen out messages related to mer for example.

DarkTuring ( 2017-02-14 22:48:25 +0300 )edit
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answered 2017-04-16 20:29:37 +0300

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updated 2017-04-16 20:32:39 +0300

  • Name / IRC nick : bshah, toxip, mariogrip

  • Topic: Project Halium, collaboration on common android base

  • Description: Currently Ubuntu Touch, SailfishOS/Mer, Plasma Mobile and others have different android source trees and methods on how our stacks are built even though much of the underlying technologies are the same. There is a lot of unneeded fragmentation. Project Halium aims solve this by the having common android base and perhaps common middleware between different projects so that we could collaborate and distribute each of our resources more efficiently. More details about this project was sent to sailfishos devel list : http://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2017-April/007842.html

  • Approx time needed: 10-15 mins

  • Backup: (The whole Halium team will be there so no backup needed)

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answered 2016-04-07 10:04:43 +0300

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updated 2016-04-07 10:25:33 +0300

Name / IRC nick: luca247

topic: why everytime jolla shows only android apps to promote Sailfish

some details about the topic: why everytime there is an event or a presentation jolla or other sailfish brands like intex are only showing android apps like whatsapp and not native ones like sailorgram or music library...you will never help the ecosystem to grow if you are the first not caring for native apps

approx time needed: 5 minutes

optional: if i'm not there simply answer the question, i will read it in the logs...

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