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SailfishOS, open source, collaboration meeting planning

asked 2014-08-21 22:22:21 +0200

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Next meeting:Thursday 8th of March 2018 at 09:00 UTC. The meeting will be held on Freenode IRC, #mer-meeting ( http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#mer-meeting )

Check here for your local time: http://bit.ly/2CmFjp8

Logs of previous meetings: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/

Agenda/topics:


  • add your name/nick using the template below to suggest a topic.
  • indicate how much time you will need for the topic so we can timebox the meeting accordingly
  • please be as thorough as you can with your question/topic
  • if you can't make the meeting please ask and then name a substitute who can in your place.

It is expected that you show up and present your topic, or name a substitute and make sure they attend in your absence. These IRC meetings are for real time participation and live discussions, otherwise you can post the topic on here on TJC or on the mailing list and get responses that way.

We need you to be present to clarify details in the topic, and to ensure the discussion is leading to the answers you are looking for! If you do not participate or your question/topic isn't clear enough it will be postponed.


Template for topic proposal: (edit this wiki directly to add your topics)

  • Name / IRC nick:
  • topic:
  • some details about the topic:
  • approx time needed:
  • optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting (and inform your substitute!)

  • Name / IRC nick: marmistrz
  • topic: Sailfish OS and QtQuick Controls 2.0
  • some details about the topic: The Qt ecosystem is moving and what was not present in 2014 becomes the new standard. I mean: QtQuick Controls 2.0. These are getting more and more popular and mobile-optimized. Does Jolla intend to replace Sailfish Silica with custom-styled QtQuick Controls? Platforms using QQC2 get many benefits for free:
    • portability: Sailfish will benefit from the development done for Nemo or KDE Plasma and even some Android development, it's much easier to port a desktop application
    • open-source and transparency - the only proprietary bits are the ones responsible for styling - this is much better for the relations with the community
    • lower maintenance burden - all you need to maintain is the styling. The rest is done by the Qt team.
    • popularity - there are many QQC2 tutorials, much more than Silica ones ... and you don't need to open-source anything to get there.
  • approx time needed: 25 min
  • optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting (and inform your substitute!)

  • Name / IRC nick: r0kk3rz
  • topic: Sailfish OS Open Source releases on sailfishos.org
  • some details about the topic: The last code drop on releases.sailfishos.org was for 2.1.0 and we are now at 2.1.4, so can we at least get a code drop for 2.1.4?
  • approx time needed: 10min
  • optional: M4rtink

For background info and invitation to this series of meetings, please see this post. Past meeting minutes, list of action points and further information are here, more recent minutes are here

Meeting Chair: (volunteers, suggestions,nominations...)

Responsibilities of meeting chair: send invitation/agenda before the meeting, keep time and order during the meeting, send minutes and next meeting planning info after the meeting.

  • James Noori (Jaymzz)
  • Simonas Leleiva (Sledges)
  • Steph Gosling (stephg)
  • Carol Chen (cybette)
  • (your name here)

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Nice that you decided to move this here from the previous pad - I think TJC will serve well in this purpose also, also good to have many different topics under the same roof. Meetings might get new people too?

simo ( 2014-08-21 23:19:11 +0200 )edit
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@cybette I wonder about the outcome of the action items 2 and 3 from the September 23th meeting:
> 2. Jolla to possibly spare some engineering time and fix up the proprietary bits to at least not crash and burn on SIP
> 3. cybette to poke SIP/dialer guys in Jolla
Unfortunately SIP is still not usable using the latest Jolla update.

alex25 ( 2014-10-28 08:46:46 +0200 )edit

bump. next meeting 7th Jan ?

kimmoli ( 2015-01-05 23:09:51 +0200 )edit

@kimmoli: yes

sledges ( 2015-01-06 16:49:45 +0200 )edit
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@kimmoli@sledges thanks for the reminder. Sending email...

cybette ( 2015-01-06 16:54:55 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-12-09 19:43:58 +0200

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Thank you for still running these meetings.

I'm interested in what is happening with the tablet and all things related to the tablet.

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... and especially interested in promised blog post clarifying and finally settling down this whole damn thing...

zlutor ( 2016-01-24 17:31:55 +0200 )edit

Latest details from Juhani Lasilla regarding the tablet can be found on: http://reviewjolla.blogspot.nl/2016/02/jolla-tablets-in-china.html

The rest can be found in the official Jolla Blog post: https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-closure/

JSE ( 2016-02-01 19:59:25 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-03-24 13:20:44 +0200

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updated 2016-03-24 13:21:42 +0200

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  • Name / IRC nick: russh
  • topic: whitelabel Jolla tablets

    • i.e. why doesn't Jolla encourage 'chinese factory' to build more Tablets (and act as reseller in Europa). Jolla can give them a SailfishOS version without license protected Software (like Alien Dalvik and Here). Benefits of this include - more developers will make native apps for SailfishOS (to fill the Jolla and openprepo app store). Builds the developer base, popularises SailfishOS and benefits everyone!

    • approx time needed: 5 minutes

    • optional: TBC
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@RussH: you have to edit the meeting agenda with your information and topic details in wiki 'question' above - like @ApB did - if you actually want it to be covered during a meeting.

mkld ( 2016-03-26 17:16:44 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-03-31 22:26:30 +0200

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Name / IRC nick: nh1402

topic: OS Abstraction

some details about the topic: Are there any plans to provide an API to enhance the Sailfish UX more specifically for the Lockscreen adding pattern lock, fingerprint sensor, iris sensor, facial recognition, text-based password etc. Other areas of the OS could also be extended such as the messaging app adding text formatting (sarcasm, italics, bold, underline, strikethrough), adding telegram to the messaging app and others. Those are the only 2 that I can think of so far but I'm sure other people have more ideas.

approx time needed: 15 minutes

optional: I would like to be at the meeting to discuss this, if no one else is going to talk about it then delay it to the next meeting when I'm there.

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answered 2016-05-25 22:13:08 +0200

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  • Name / IRC nick: toxip
  • topic: Requesting things to be added to mer-tools repo
  • details: Noticed that some basic tools like wget are not included in the mer-tools repo. How could we request things to be added to the repository?
  • time: 5 min
  • optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting
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wget is GLP3.

tortoisedoc ( 2016-05-27 10:50:06 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-06-29 21:15:45 +0200

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  • Name / IRC nick: OhDaeto
  • Topic: Update outdated packages
  • Some details about the topic: Sailfish OS (Nemo) contains a lot of outdated and officialy unsupported packages in repos. For example, there is Perl package version 5.16.1 while Cent OS 7 / RHEL supports 5.16.3. So I would like to know how the community can help you to update your packages and projects to latest actual versions, and which parts you think are the most weakest. Thanks in advance and sorry for my poor English. Hope you understood what I want to ask :)
  • Approx time needed: 5-10 mins
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You should edit first post as others have done so we can talk about this tomorrow. :)

tathhu ( 2016-06-29 21:41:25 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-12-05 14:07:32 +0200

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James, could you please update https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/CommunityMeetings with meeting results? I was not able to participate but would like to get an update on some topics discussed. Thank you!

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today meeting minutes are here: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-December/007576.html

c.la ( 2016-12-05 16:54:03 +0200 )edit

Wiki updated.

ced117 ( 2017-01-13 20:14:49 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-09-19 17:49:43 +0200

Name / IRC nick : tortoisedoc

topic: upgrading xdg-utils in mer to master

some details about the topic: see here https://together.jolla.com/question/110408/xdg-open-no-longer-working/

approx time needed: 15 mins?

optional: N/A

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thanks @tortoisedoc, added to agenda above. will send email to devel list shortly.

cybette ( 2015-09-30 13:42:57 +0200 )edit
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Hey, thanks @cybette for the reply and adding the topic; unfortunately due to higher powers tomorrow i cant attend, so I propose to postpone it to the next meeting.

tortoisedoc ( 2015-10-07 20:49:23 +0200 )edit
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ok, we'll move this to next week. thanks!

cybette ( 2015-10-08 16:42:12 +0200 )edit
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next meeting is on 22/10, we'll discuss this then!

cybette ( 2015-10-08 19:26:43 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-01-14 11:50:58 +0200

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updated 2016-01-14 11:52:18 +0200

Could someone check if the log at http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2016 will work properly this time please?

I know, this is no answer, but IMHO it is important that the log works.

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answered 2016-03-27 21:58:20 +0200

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Name / IRC nick: Luis Da Costa / Aliasbody

topic: Futur of jolla in the professional environment

some details about the topic: I've been promoting Jolla as a platform for my clients and their feedback might be good to be heard. More in details, every time we gain a client/project for a mobile app (mostly Android and iOS) we always propose a version for Jolla or Ubuntu Touch for free (in order to promote those platforms and to help them understand the benefits of a convergent code), but usually everyone chooses Ubuntu. At start I thought that it was because they knew the name (so there were more attracted to it) but after long discussions with our clients we found out that this wasn't the case. If you allow me I would be interested in explaining what are their concernes (and why, if this doesn't change, we might at libretrend change also everything to Ubuntu Touch).

approx time needed: 30 minutes (maybe even less, I think that anyone interested may need more time for the questions than for me to explain).

optional: None (I'll be the one to be there because I am the only one who has all the direct contact with our clients).

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@LibreTrend: if your development capabilities match your reading and understanding skills, I get why your clients do not want your Jolla apps, even for free. And that didn't take 30 minutes.

mkld ( 2016-03-27 23:52:34 +0200 )edit

@mkld Thank you for your kind message.... English is not my first language but in fact I missed the part saying "Template for topic proposal: (you can edit this wiki directly to add your topics)". I'll change the original post and add it there.

LibreTrend ( 2016-03-28 11:44:47 +0200 )edit
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answered 2017-06-12 22:09:55 +0200

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  • Name / IRC nick: remote
  • topic: How soon 2sim version of Xperia X (F5122) will be supported after F5121 fw release?
  • approx time needed: 3 min
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