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SailfishOS, open source, collaboration meeting planning

asked 2014-08-21 22:22:21 +0200

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Next meeting:Thursday 10th of January 2019 at 09:00 UTC. The meeting will be held on Freenode IRC, #mer-meeting ( https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#mer-meeting )

Check here for your local time: https://bit.ly/2C8f3lC

Logs of previous meetings: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/

Agenda/topics:


  • add your name/nick using the template below to suggest a topic.
  • indicate how much time you will need for the topic so we can timebox the meeting accordingly
  • please be as thorough as you can with your question/topic
  • if you can't make the meeting please ask and then name a substitute who can in your place.

It is expected that you show up and present your topic, or name a substitute and make sure they attend in your absence. These IRC meetings are for real time participation and live discussions, otherwise you can post the topic on here on TJC or on the mailing list and get responses that way.

We need you to be present to clarify details in the topic, and to ensure the discussion is leading to the answers you are looking for! If you do not participate or your question/topic isn't clear enough it will be postponed. Also: Always ask for *more time than you anticipate your topics needs!!*

Please try and have your topics ready by at least 3 days before the meeting. This will help us have answers ready beforehand to save time. Topics announced afterwards will be postponed to the next meeting.


Template for topic proposal: (edit this wiki directly to add your topics)

  • Name / IRC nick:
  • topic:
  • some details about the topic:
  • approx time needed:
  • optional: name of substitute if you cannot make it to the upcoming meeting (and inform your substitute!)

  • Name / IRC nick: tortoisedoc
  • topic: Harbour and it's place in the strategy of jolla (w/r to individual markets)
  • some details about the topic: Harbour has been since the start the only place where applications are officially distributed and, most importantly, (to a certain extent) validated. We have seen a constant rise on the openrepos, not only in terms of users, but also in terms of functionalities (download stats, origin tracking etc) but this has not been the case for harbour. How does harbour fit into the "big localized ecosystems" picture? How does it currently support this vision (if if exists)? For example, is it accessible from Markets like Russia, China, SA? Given there are no tools for localization, nor for tracking number of downloads per country, it does not seem to be the case. What is thy future, Harbour? The type of info that could be interesting (especially for localization focussing) is:

    • is Harbour available on all the countries where SailfishOS is officially deployed?
    • Is Harbour available on all the other countries?
    • How are "local eco systems" interacting with Harbour, if at all?
    • more questions might come up during the discussion :)
  • approx time needed: 15 min

  • optional: if not present, pospone please

  • Name / IRC nick: dcaliste
  • topic: how can the community help to improve the state of QtWayland in Mer ?
  • some details about the topic: Currently QtWayland:master is ancient and there are a lot of branches with piles of commits, current one seems to be mer-5.4. I guess the rebase on Qt5.9 is in mer-5.9. Would it make sense to use a submodule pointing to upstream (with a checkout at 5.6.3 currently), with the additional commits as git-patches, as it is done for messagingframework ? Then, all additional commits can be reviewed to be upstreamed if it make sense and later upgrades to more recent version of Qt would be easier. If it makes sense, would community help welcome here ? In which forms: additional commit review on upstream:master, creation of a submodule and git-patch for every additional commits ?
  • approx time needed: 20 minutes
  • optional: if I cannot attend, please reschedule the topic to the next meeting.


For background info and invitation to this series of meetings, please see this post. Past meeting minutes, list of action points and further information are here, more recent minutes are here

Meeting Chair: (volunteers, suggestions,nominations...)

Responsibilities of meeting chair: send invitation/agenda before the meeting, keep time and order during the meeting, send minutes and next meeting planning info after the meeting.

  • James Noori (Jaymzz)
  • Simonas Leleiva (Sledges)
  • Steph Gosling (stephg)
  • Carol Chen (cybette)
  • (your name here)

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Nice that you decided to move this here from the previous pad - I think TJC will serve well in this purpose also, also good to have many different topics under the same roof. Meetings might get new people too?

simo ( 2014-08-21 23:19:11 +0200 )edit
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@cybette I wonder about the outcome of the action items 2 and 3 from the September 23th meeting:
> 2. Jolla to possibly spare some engineering time and fix up the proprietary bits to at least not crash and burn on SIP
> 3. cybette to poke SIP/dialer guys in Jolla
Unfortunately SIP is still not usable using the latest Jolla update.

alex25 ( 2014-10-28 08:46:46 +0200 )edit

bump. next meeting 7th Jan ?

kimmoli ( 2015-01-05 23:09:51 +0200 )edit

@kimmoli: yes

sledges ( 2015-01-06 16:49:45 +0200 )edit
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@kimmoli@sledges thanks for the reminder. Sending email...

cybette ( 2015-01-06 16:54:55 +0200 )edit

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answered 2016-01-14 11:50:58 +0200

cy8aer gravatar image

updated 2016-01-14 11:52:18 +0200

Could someone check if the log at http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2016 will work properly this time please?

I know, this is no answer, but IMHO it is important that the log works.

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answered 2016-03-27 21:58:20 +0200

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Name / IRC nick: Luis Da Costa / Aliasbody

topic: Futur of jolla in the professional environment

some details about the topic: I've been promoting Jolla as a platform for my clients and their feedback might be good to be heard. More in details, every time we gain a client/project for a mobile app (mostly Android and iOS) we always propose a version for Jolla or Ubuntu Touch for free (in order to promote those platforms and to help them understand the benefits of a convergent code), but usually everyone chooses Ubuntu. At start I thought that it was because they knew the name (so there were more attracted to it) but after long discussions with our clients we found out that this wasn't the case. If you allow me I would be interested in explaining what are their concernes (and why, if this doesn't change, we might at libretrend change also everything to Ubuntu Touch).

approx time needed: 30 minutes (maybe even less, I think that anyone interested may need more time for the questions than for me to explain).

optional: None (I'll be the one to be there because I am the only one who has all the direct contact with our clients).

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@LibreTrend: if your development capabilities match your reading and understanding skills, I get why your clients do not want your Jolla apps, even for free. And that didn't take 30 minutes.

mkld ( 2016-03-27 23:52:34 +0200 )edit

@mkld Thank you for your kind message.... English is not my first language but in fact I missed the part saying "Template for topic proposal: (you can edit this wiki directly to add your topics)". I'll change the original post and add it there.

LibreTrend ( 2016-03-28 11:44:47 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-04-07 10:04:43 +0200

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updated 2016-04-07 10:25:33 +0200

Name / IRC nick: luca247

topic: why everytime jolla shows only android apps to promote Sailfish

some details about the topic: why everytime there is an event or a presentation jolla or other sailfish brands like intex are only showing android apps like whatsapp and not native ones like sailorgram or music library...you will never help the ecosystem to grow if you are the first not caring for native apps

approx time needed: 5 minutes

optional: if i'm not there simply answer the question, i will read it in the logs...

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answered 2017-01-13 10:38:54 +0200

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answered 2017-06-12 22:09:55 +0200

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  • Name / IRC nick: remote
  • topic: How soon 2sim version of Xperia X (F5122) will be supported after F5121 fw release?
  • approx time needed: 3 min
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answered 2017-09-04 08:02:54 +0200

sugashrajavelu gravatar image

Name : Sugash

Topic : Custom Gestures & Fastening UI.

Details of the topic :

Custom Guestures :

Currently we have limited user customizable guestures.which causes a problem either between left and right hand users . User definable guestures can add more customizability and it can showcase Sailfish Os as the best Customizable Os.

Fastening UI :

1.The animation speed is slow and it's seem to appeal as a Slow Ui or OS . ( The Warehouse patch is liitle laggy and it doesn't appear to be native ) . Speed can also be made User Customizable ! which adds more UI customizability !

2.Remorse timer is the best of Sailfish . Few think why to wait for 5 sec for a single action ( probably Not true as we can continue with other activities ) . Many tend to wait for the completion if they work on the same page . So adding an immediate action button on the remorse action bar will make it easy & faster appealing .

approx time needed: 10min

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As for point #2, I absolutely agree that the remorse timer needs a re-work, not from a technical view, but from a UI perspective. By means of design, the remorse timer can be changed to be clear on what it shows and what the user can do, and the immediate button is a brilliant idea to improve it.

I've been using many (mobile) UIs so far, and I must admit that the SFOS remorse timer always puzzles me still after all those years, and this even annoys me almost daily.

Another improvement would be to make the remorse timer's timeout configurable. (I know this can be done by patching.)

Maus ( 2017-09-07 09:35:47 +0200 )edit

What do you think about user customizable guestures ? Any reasons you have for other listed ideas ? pls mention it , so that i can get some info .

sugashrajavelu ( 2017-09-07 12:21:33 +0200 )edit
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answered 2018-03-27 15:15:04 +0200

au7ogeek gravatar image

updated 2018-03-27 15:17:32 +0200

Name / IRC nick: au7ogeek

topic: Xperia XA2 support details

some details about the topic: Which version of the Xperia XA2 will be supported exactly (model number)? There are many different variations across markets and single/dual-sim types, etc. Will the dual-sim version be supported (initially or maybe eventually)? Single sim versions are already difficult to find (in Sweden) while dual-sim versions are readily available. How about the Xperia XA2 Ultra? This is even more popular and readily available. It has the same chipset as the XA2 but a different screen size.

I feel it is important to clarify such questions now as the devices being supported may be hard to find later on when Sailfish XA2 goes on sale.

approx time needed: 5 mins

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Will it support Sony Xperia XA2 Single-Sim H3123?!

Schumi ( 2018-06-14 22:09:18 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-03-27 19:26:17 +0200

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I can't edit the wiki post because I just registered on here, but:

Name / IRC nick: ArmsOfSorrow

topic: Platform Development documentation

some details about the topic: this https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Platform_Development and various other sites about platform development are still just placeholders. I'd really like to help advance the platform (e.g. update some old packages), but the documentation on the whole process is scattered around various sites. When is it going to be (more) complete?

approx time needed: ~5 minutes

optional: if I'm not available (when there is a meeting date/time), just answer the question and make sure the log works.

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@ArmsOfSorrow: done. Which makes me realise I must be particularly ill, since I've just helped an emo.

mkld ( 2016-03-27 23:41:58 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-05-02 15:40:46 +0200

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answered 2016-06-23 10:09:21 +0200

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  • Name / IRC nick: nh1402
  • topic: QT future
  • some details about the topic: from QT 5.7 onwards it is no longer licensed under LGPL 2.1 does that affect us?
  • approx time needed: 5-10 mins
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