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Jolla tablet announced at Slush '14 [Announcement] [not relevant]

asked 2014-11-14 18:20:09 +0300

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updated 2014-11-19 11:45:08 +0300

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Update: Indiegogo link.

A crowdfunding campaign for a Jolla tablet was announced by Marc Dillon at the Slush event. Target is $380,000, which should be easily achievable. Indeed, wouldn't surprise me if they get it in a couple of days, or even 24 hours.

Seems like more of a pre-order campaign than a drive to fund the actual device. Doing it via Indiegogo or Kickstarter definitely gets more publicity.

Spec highlights: Intel Quad Core (presumably Atom), 7.9" 2048x1536 IPS, 2GB RAM, 4300Mah, 5MP Front, 2MP Rear, 32GB ROM & SD. $189.

IMO it's rather disappointing that they decided to go with Intel for the chip ... I know they're waving around wads of cash, desperate for design wins, and it must be very tempting for a small company like Jolla, but I loathe their corporate ethos and business practices, and even their new Atoms are years behind ARM. Not very 'unlike'. Also, got to wonder about the May '15 delivery date ... assuming they have no working prototype of either 'Sailfish 2.0' or the tablet, or they would have been shown. Good to see a far better screen though.

---- Pre-release speculation

Render of the edge of a phone with almost no bezel has been posted on Twitter and the Jolla homepage. Together with a sign-up for notification of the event (w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ i̶f̶ p̶e̶d̶d̶a̶n̶t̶s̶ w̶a̶n̶t̶ t̶o̶ t̶r̶y̶ t̶o̶ c̶l̶o̶s̶e̶ t̶h̶i̶s̶ t̶h̶r̶e̶a̶d̶,̶ t̶h̶e̶ s̶i̶g̶n̶ u̶p̶ d̶o̶e̶s̶n̶'̶t̶ w̶o̶r̶k̶ s̶o̶ J̶o̶l̶l̶a̶ n̶e̶e̶d̶ t̶o̶ b̶e̶ i̶n̶f̶o̶r̶m̶e̶d̶ o̶f̶ t̶h̶a̶t̶ -̶ y̶o̶u̶ r̶e̶c̶e̶i̶v̶e̶ n̶o̶ e̶-̶m̶a̶i̶l̶).

I think we can safely assume it is a phone, and not a tablet, since Sailfish currently lacks tablet features.

The clue for a reasonably near announcement on a new phone (though I thought it'd be at MWC) was the development e-mail recently stating the commencement of work on UI scaling etc for different resolutions.

Have to say, it's only the edge of the phone, but looks a hell of a lot more clean and modern than what we have now!

Edit: Could of course be a third party OEM announcing a Sailfish device in conjunction with Jolla.

Edit2: It makes sense actually. The recent €100 off on the Jolla, then week extension suggests clearing inventory, and AFAIK no new Jollas have been manufactured since March / April of this year, it would make more sense at this stage to bring out a new model than do a new production run on the old model.

Edit3: Just looked at it on a bigger desktop monitor. It looks to be an Other Half that's pictured (albeit more complex than existing ones). It would be rather strange to launch a countdown and hype people up only to let them down, especially as it wouldn't be 'bigger' than TOHKBr2. If it is a phone, I guess it definitely has TOH.

Edit4: Review Jolla seem to think that it is indeed the front part of a device in the same style as the current Jolla (albeit with tiny bezels), which I mistook for a TOH. Would appear not to have a TOH in that case, or none attached in the render / photo. Still think a larger phone is far more likely than a tablet ... I think it'd take a long time to get Sailfish to a stage where it was decently usable in tablet format, and it'd be very weird to have an archaic phone on sale and a presumably much more modern tablet.

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Nice post, thanks for that, well spotted!

At risk of becoming a real PEDANT, I just visited http://jolla.com/ and successfully signed up. I have received a confirmation email titled 'Something Big', so the sign up process does work.

Regards,

Spam Hunter ( 2014-11-14 18:40:36 +0300 )edit
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From what I see from the pic, the announcement could be that batteries are finally available on the Jolla shop. ;-)

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2014-11-14 18:42:35 +0300 )edit

Are you using webmail or other? Who's the provider? I tried immediately on Yahoo and Gmail .. still nothing. Edit: they just came through, all with send time of 40 minutes ago. Think Jolla must be using the toaster as their mail server :)

midnightoil ( 2014-11-14 18:44:03 +0300 )edit
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@giacomo-di-giacomo that would certainly be a good way of disenchanting people and news sites. see what you mean, but I don't think it's a battery :)

midnightoil ( 2014-11-14 18:47:15 +0300 )edit

@midnightoil - I use Winmail and my email is a Tiscali mail address. My outgoing mail is bounced off Yahoo servers.

Regards,

Spam Hunter ( 2014-11-14 18:49:46 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-11-19 10:51:43 +0300

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updated 2014-11-19 11:25:16 +0300

It's a TABLET!!! :-) :-) :-)

Most interesting are the technical similarities with the Nokia N1

N1: Display 7.9 inch (4:3) 2048x1536 resolution Gorilla® glass 3 IPS panel with LED backlight Fully laminated zero air-gap display Chip Intel® 64-bit Atom™ Processor Z3580, 2.3 GHz Memory LPDDR3 (800 MHz), 2 GB Storage eMMC 5.0, 32 GB

JOLLA TAB: Processing 64-bit 1.8GHz Quad-Core/Intel 32GB EMMC ROM 2GB DDR3L-RS RAM Screen 7.85” IPS 2048 x 1536 pixel resolution 330 pixels-per-inch

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Wow, it seems to be almost literally flying out the door!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/jolla-tablet-world-s-first-crowdsourced-tablet

nthn ( 2014-11-19 11:03:35 +0300 )edit

Damn, a tablet. And I wanted to contribute but all I don't need is a table :-/.

Sailor ( 2014-11-19 11:31:21 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-11-18 11:40:01 +0300

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Well, Nokia just presented the Nokia N1, an Android-Based Tabled.

Who knows, maybe Jolla presents tomorrow an N1-Like Sailfish-Based Tablet. And in the not-so-distant-future we see Nokia adopting Sailfish....

[I'll keep dreaming...]

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Well... libhybris should work with that hardware too... :D

vattuvarg ( 2014-11-18 12:51:01 +0300 )edit

Sailfish port in 3, 2, 1, ...

nthn ( 2014-11-18 14:54:56 +0300 )edit
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@vattuvarg: Nice!

nthn ( 2014-11-18 23:26:06 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-11-16 16:49:40 +0300

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updated 2014-11-18 14:01:21 +0300

Edit - The we have this from Nokia - hmmmm, makes you wonder?, yes, okay, the dates are different, but only by one day!

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Could this be a collaboration, or just an unlikely coincidence? :P

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/11/18/nokia-announce-nokia-n1-android-tablet/

Okay, so it's a Tablet from Nokia - no surprises there really, looking at the shape of the box. So, perhaps Jolla are launching a tablet as well?, hmmmmm, one more day and we will know!

Very much speculation and great imagination/artwork from YvesPE; image description

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answered 2014-11-15 21:45:29 +0300

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Jolla shouldn't be afraid to let go of the TOH idea, even as it is a good one. Historically the devices (Internet Tablet, N900, N9, Jolla) haven't had hardware features that go to the next device. It just leaves too little differentation, I fear that the public won't see the difference. Then again, we'll see in a couple days.

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I think that Google's Ara project along with finnish mobile phone start-ups like Vsenn and Puzzlephone with their modular phone concepts are making TOH concept obsolete. I feel that TOH comes from the same modular hardware concept as the ones mentioned above, it's just too simplified to actually have useful features.

Grunt ( 2014-11-16 16:51:51 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-11-15 21:38:00 +0300

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updated 2014-11-15 22:08:04 +0300

Xiaomi mi3

This would be BIG...

@JollaTides Wild speculation : Xiaomi builds a Sailfish phone and tablet. Teaser looks very much like an Xiaomi MI3.

— Peter Dam (@pdamio) 15 november 2014
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Good catch. It very much looks like it. Hurm. Wonder what the future strategy will be then? Multiple phones with Sailfish or is this one the Jolla2? Not long to find out I suppose.

theunemployablekoder ( 2014-11-16 00:07:25 +0300 )edit
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It actually looks quite different if you have a closer look at it. You could also say the teaser looks very much like a Nokia N9. Strangely, this picture provides more than what we get to see on jolla.comhttp://i60.tinypic.com/3093o8z.jpg

Anna ( 2014-11-16 03:48:49 +0300 )edit

@theunemployablekoder no need to wonder about strategy. Jolla's strategy has always been with sailfishos rather than manufacturing phones

r0kk3rz ( 2014-11-17 10:48:03 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-11-15 16:24:15 +0300

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updated 2014-11-16 14:03:13 +0300

It looks like:

  1. a polished TOH, it might have a e-ink screen, or it might have a large bezel, a large battery, a camera module? Remember that Jolla has advertised THO but never showed some clever ideas yet, apart from fancy colours and ambience similar to what Nokia was doing 15 years ago.
  2. a new device, in that case it looks very flat and thin which might mean Jolla is abandoning TOH principle, rather a big change as THO has a potential although not exploited much. Unless the OH of the new phone is very different to current one, e.g. attached via magnets or something exotic?
  3. a tablet, difficult to explain the rational, since the main focus to succeed is in mobile devices.
  4. a third party device that runs SailfishOS

In any of these cases, we still have a real device and we expect the official release of 1.1.x please!

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I second all your points. And especially expect a November release, stable (no early adopter).

magullo ( 2014-11-15 16:34:56 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-11-15 14:21:31 +0300

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Maybe just maybe its a Nojolla N10, or keep on thinking its someting else like update 10, wait and see folks!

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answered 2014-11-15 06:08:14 +0300

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updated 2014-11-16 05:28:42 +0300

It says "Something BIG is about to begin". Note "is about to begin". This means Jolla and Nokia will start the long awaited co-operation. :)

Or since Nokia will tell us about the future on 17th of November with Jolla following up on 19th, it could be that Jolla will license the Nokia brand :)

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Hehe.. That would be awesome.

torcida ( 2014-11-15 09:04:28 +0300 )edit

This is what I was thinking also. Both Jolla and Nokia are promising news this week.

jjhuopa ( 2014-11-17 16:03:38 +0300 )edit

Ok, so this was confirmed incorrect today with the launch of the N1. Nice to see Nokia back in business, anyway.

jjhuopa ( 2014-11-18 21:02:34 +0300 )edit

My guess: Jolla will announce an official port of Sailfish to the N1. (Okay, more wishful thinking than a real guess.)

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2014-11-18 23:46:34 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-11-14 22:18:24 +0300

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Do not forget that they announced the first Jolla on may and released it on november. So for me they are going to announce that on MWC they will present a tablet because a tablet is BIG compared to a phone and is about to BEGIN while the phone already started a year ago.

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Except that was their first device. Usual market strategy is to release asap after announcing, as it capitalises on news hype

EDIT: it also makes sense for them not to announce at MWC, they are an established company so they can generate news without being attached to a conference and getting flooded out by lots of new stuff being announced

r0kk3rz ( 2014-11-15 00:00:50 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-11-14 21:03:06 +0300

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If it is a TOH maybe its an epaper OH to compete with Yota phone in russian market...

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you can be 100% sure its not something for existing customers.

User ( 2014-11-14 23:32:09 +0300 )edit

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