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Input problems which make me frustrated

asked 2014-11-16 22:15:20 +0200

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After using the devices for a few months, I consider the problems below as bugs and therefore they should be somehow corrected. Most of these "bugs" might have one solution to all of these issues.

1) When composing any text it is very hard to put the typing cursor in front of the text - usually the cursor gets few letters from the start. When composing email there an extreme risk of tapping on the "back one level" dots which are exactly at the start of the input box, especially when the device is in horizontal position.

2) It is very hard to select the end of line when composing an SMS/Message in the Messaging application when the last word ends very close to the "Send" button. Tapping there causes the message to be sent.

3) When long tapping most of the input fields, starts text selection now which automatically copies the text to clipboard. This is nice, but not very useful when you want just to change the cursor position.

4) The zoom-in cursor location feature does not activate as easily and activates the gestures instead in case the finger is not exactly at one or another spot which makes it very hard to put the cursor where needed. Also this is not working in all applications as it was suggested already before.

5) When there is a lot of text and zoom-in is active, eg. you are looking where to place the cursor the whole text does not scroll when the cursor gets under the on screen keyboard.

The solution: Make N9 style input, where long tap on the input field would pop a magnification glass or the zoom-in feature which shows the position of the input cursor and allows to move it anywhere in the input field without activating the normal gestures or buttons around the field, like going back one level (dots in upper left corner), tap on "send" accidentally in messaging screen, etc. Also this feature would not start selecting text because of the long tap, make text selection by taping and immediately moving finger while touch is not broken. Also when zoom-in is used, the cursor should not be under the finger ever or under any other UI elements.

Very nice video explaining my expectation from the phone is here:

So basically I am writing this to tell you that there are a lot to improve here and that this is a critical part of the device.

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answered 2014-11-17 02:19:11 +0200

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updated 2014-11-17 10:59:28 +0200

Hi, I'll try to answer:

1) + 2) First tap somewhere (e.g.) in the middle of the input field, than tap exactly there again (on the cursor!), hold and pull it to the wished place... No problem for me there.

3) If you push and hold on a word it will be copied, all fine here again... If you want to change cursor position: press and hold on the cursor (!) before trying to change the position (see previous answer) - otherwise you'll only scroll (e.g. adress bar in internet browser).

4) It's easy if you follow the suggestion from the first answer again.

5) This looks like a UI bug - when the written text is long, the part at the bottom is hidden under the keyboard.

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I gotta say I've been using only Sailfish since launch and did not know about the "zoomed in cursor" until this. I've been having the same problem with that as Andy. Not very intuitive, but once found seems to work fluently.

Teme ( 2014-11-17 10:39:49 +0200 )edit

@Teme - yes, the existing “zoom / fine tune cursor position” can have some usability improvements. I discovered it accidentally although I came to know later that it is mentioned in user guide as treasure.:-) I am able to access it but sometimes its like ‘hit and miss’ till you get used to it:-( Feel one intuitive way to implement this would be to pinch and zoom like how one zooms a picture while viewing an image or using Volume + / – button to zoom available only within text editing mode.

anandrkris ( 2014-11-17 13:23:40 +0200 )edit

that helpes me too. i did other things to text properly but this is good to know

NuklearFart ( 2014-11-17 14:00:40 +0200 )edit
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