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[Request] [Jolla Tablet] Connectivity 3G/4G [answered]

asked 2014-11-19 11:26:20 +0300

yroll gravatar image

updated 2014-11-27 16:19:04 +0300

Hi, I really think you should add 3g/4g connectivity for the tablet. Also make it easy to connect to the jolla phone for internet sharing etc

Ordered the tablet and i hope i'll not regret it :)

Update: If we reach 2.500.000$ there will be an option to upgrade for only 30$

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but it will cost than more.... sure, LTE/3G was nice to have and i really want it... but i think, it will cost to much.

cvp ( 2014-11-19 12:28:02 +0300 )edit
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Depending on brand and quantity you can get a UMTS/LTE module for $10-$40* and I'd gladly pay that extra (plus some extra profit for Jolla) to have my Jolla tablet UMTS/LTE enabled.

*) this is us, a small telemetry/embedded systems producer

Mohjive ( 2014-11-19 12:31:40 +0300 )edit
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Let's just push for it and maybe they will add it! :D

yroll ( 2014-11-19 12:37:21 +0300 )edit
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Adding mobile connection (3G/4G LTE) would be an advantage over other competitors Nokia N1, Nexus 9 and Ipad Mini 3. Let's hope Jolla will be unlike others :)

Jolla095 ( 2014-11-19 12:48:51 +0300 )edit
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For me it is a deal breaker for a tablet. I haven't preordered yet but I'll follow in case this happens :)

nande ( 2014-11-19 12:50:28 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-11-28 21:27:03 +0300

Lepias gravatar image

Since you plan to include 3.5G connection why dont you make the Jolla tablet to make and receive regular GSM phone calls?

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answered 2014-11-27 16:54:51 +0300

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In next 6-12 months 3g/LTE will be something so obvious, like wi-fi nowadays. Let's make a product which is able to stand the competition, otherwise will be treated as a "vintage" or "hipsterian" from very early beginning ;)

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answered 2014-11-23 18:34:36 +0300

unlikeyou gravatar image

In this case, jolla should enable bluetooth tethering from jolla phone to jolla tablet

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the tablet has wifi. the jolla phone can connect to wifi. the jolla phone can act as a wifi router. the tablet os is based on the phone os. -> i guess the tablet will use the phone as a router just fine ;-]

mikelima ( 2014-11-24 00:59:17 +0300 )edit

I don't want to be forced to use both devices. I would prefer a single medium sized device that does everything. As the Jolla phone is not big enough and does not do everything I need I will try to use the tablet.

mariner ( 2014-11-24 10:35:59 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-11-23 00:23:01 +0300

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updated 2014-11-23 00:23:27 +0300

Other than the cost increases there is another compelling reason NOT to have LTE/4G capability in that it allows a better distribution for the device.

You don't have to go through all that mobile operator compliance crap when it is LTE/3G capable. Utilising an already operator approved device connected to the tablet is a piece of cake. I do this regularly with my Samsung Tablet which is WiFi only and my phone is the WiFi hotspot it connects to.....simple.

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answered 2014-11-22 18:37:42 +0300

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Thanks for the suggestion. We have considered this already in the pre-study phase and adding a modem to the tablet complicates by several order of magnitudes the project.

  • More certifications
  • More variants or less countries we can serve
  • More expensive
  • SW work more complex

On top of that the amount of tablets sold with wifi only outwheighs the modem ones 3 to 1 so we could probably not cover the costs.

Long story short: very hard this will happen for this product.

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More variants or less countries we can serve

@stezz: Unrelated to the tablet, but in the context of other future Jolla devices (like the second handset). What do you think about using unversal LTE modems like this one:

They can remove this whole issue of segmented devices for different regions altogether. Is it a possibility?

shmerl ( 2014-11-24 00:35:31 +0300 )edit
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I agree with shermel. Much like the N9 had for 3G back in it's day there are universal modems for LTE, no need for different devices for different markets. I think many interested in your products, including myself would appreciate that for your next handset. Tablet is fine as it is.

salyavin ( 2014-11-24 01:05:12 +0300 )edit

Universal modems for LTE still need software to support it and devices need those additional certifications. For a phone product modem needs to be integrated to SoC, using external modem chip is not practical in that space because of added complexity, increased power consumption and manufacturing cost. As far as I know, Intel will have their first SoC with integrated modem out sometime during 2015, but I don't know anything more detailed about it yet.

MSH ( 2014-11-24 15:14:14 +0300 )edit

As far as I know, Intel will have their first SoC with integrated modem out sometime during 2015

Then second Jolla handset should use that when it's ready. Pushing out another device (I don't mean the tablet) which won't work in many networks would be very bad. It's hardware that's a limitation in the current device, not software or certification.

shmerl ( 2014-11-24 18:21:48 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-11-22 15:20:54 +0300

ramoth gravatar image

For me using the phone as hotspot wherever required is definitely good enough. "On the road" I wouldn't use a tablet but do my stuff simply on the phone.

Also reality shows that most users use their tablets either at home or at work, where wifi is available in any case. I agree there are people for whom mobile connectivity is a must. There we should have solutions available, maybe a second edition of the tablet with WiFi in, which would be more expensive then. Also usb solutions may be okay.

What I would personally prefer is kind of a mobile Hot Spot as a separate device, just a small box you can carry in your pocket without screen or other battery consuming stuff inside, basically only battery+Wifi device where all your mobile devices could connect to. These devices are available, you can connect several mobile devices to them wheneever needed and only need 1 sim for all your devices mobile connectivity.

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answered 2014-11-22 15:14:30 +0300

Cmdr_Zod gravatar image

Isn't this just a limitation of the used Intel chip? As far as I know, Intel still struggles to integrate good WWAN-functionality into their SOCs.

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answered 2014-11-22 12:11:20 +0300

mike7b4 gravatar image

There is probadly plenty of reason there ois no modem.

  1. Higher price
  2. Draining battery faster
  3. More debugging/testing
  4. Antenna problems
  5. Design issues
  6. Patent issues

and so on...

It's better use development to make sure Wifi hotspot on Jolla Phone works flawlessly between tablet and phone.

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answered 2014-11-22 11:54:36 +0300

mariner gravatar image

Using 3g/4g connection is far more secure and private than public wifi. This fits exactly with what should be Jolla's philosophy and should be built in as standard - no dongles.

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It's not really more secure - it depends on how much you trust your operator. It's advisable to use VPN anyway.

shmerl ( 2014-11-24 00:37:17 +0300 )edit

No - wifi is insecure. Google already hacked everyone's login details. Public wifi is even more insecure. 3g/4g is more secure - you need a special scanner to hack into the cellular signal.

mariner ( 2014-11-24 10:22:56 +0300 )edit

Carrier has access to all your communication. So such security is very relative. To have some level of security you need end to end encryption.

shmerl ( 2014-11-24 10:24:09 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-11-22 10:46:49 +0300

shinc gravatar image

Using cellphone as a 4g connection with tablet works, but it is carrying yet another device with you, and also eats the battery - which is a big thing in times of smartphones needing daily(or shorter) charging. And not everyone lives near free wlans. In general the HW specs looks ok now, but maybe not upon time of release...

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Agreed also the jolla phone won't last for long with wifi hotspot + 4g giving it to the pad....

yroll ( 2014-11-22 12:20:47 +0300 )edit

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