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Voice of the community, voice of Jolla

asked 2014-12-04 14:23:23 +0300

RobNas gravatar image

Dear Jolla,

I'd love the open source characteristics of Sailfish, as I did in the days of Maemo. Unfortunately, the feeling of open slowly changes towards closed. I really know you want to react on being open and fighting against the rumors about being not so open source.

What I think you should do is react on issues. Issues like basic functionality of the browser, like setting the user agent (request desktopmode from websites) or a searchfunction, are things we want for a very long time and haven't been answered. And the last three words are what I think is the problem:

Haven't been answered.

Please, a "no" with explanation can be really satisfying. At this moment I feel like sailing alone and yelling, but only the echoes return.

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Seems you are mixing up things. First of all the browser is open sourced (as stated below) so just fix it yourself if it is so important to you. Also I have seen answers to those questions, which mostly were along the lines: "we will when we get time to do so" but with all the duplicates the answer might have gotten swallowed somewhere.

Philippe De Swert ( 2014-12-04 15:43:59 +0300 )edit

@RobNas: Please re-consider the meaning of the words "open source" and "we" in this context.

"Open source", as stated twice here now, means that the sources are open and that if enough users (!) feel it's important enough to add such features, they'll do so. It does not mean that people paid by Jolla should be open 24/7 and do everything you wish for. ;)

(I understand this doesn't help you a bit, especially if you cannot code yourself or not good enough to help with such a big project as the browser. But that's how open source works: It's basically governed by those who get hands on and do the work themselves, not by those whou say what others should do. It's a clear statement of its own if only few people actually invest their time to help developing the browser: It may well mean it's good enough for them as it is.)

"We want" is a bold statement to make in such a community. Reading it from Jolla's side, it would mean that all of us, the whole community, want it. Some do, dome don't care. I believe it's more polite to say "I want" if it's really you who wants it.

ossi1967 ( 2014-12-04 16:00:35 +0300 )edit

I'm not a developer/programmer, I don't know how to fix it. I don't expect the employees of Jolla are there for us 24/7 (duh, it's not even possible). But what I do know is there can be made time for solving this:
"Updates duration label to m:ss for <10 min and mm:ss for >10 min"

Well, that's a big issue, isn't it? Yes it has to be solved, but the timing is somewhat imperfect, if real issues stay open for months, right? Maybe I should have choosen my words more polite, but I want to shake up the people. Don't ignore the not so popular issues if it makes a real difference for individuals.

RobNas ( 2014-12-04 22:52:35 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-12-04 14:36:41 +0300

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updated 2014-12-04 14:37:49 +0300

The browser is completely open source, you can follow all development and even contribute to get the features you want on the GitHub page: https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser

By which I mean, sure there aren't usually many posts made about the browser by Jolla employees, but there don't need to be if you can just go to that page and see everything that's going on.

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